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asky
01-12-2004, 16:23
Hi

i have tried simemu 6.01 and.... it's great (Thanks Dejan!!).
But is it possible have two number active (receive) in the same time ? (Similar service of Italian provider). is it a crazy request!!

Bye Bye and............ happy new YEAR.

SirGraham
01-12-2004, 17:17
Hi,

Yes Itīs a crazy idea. :) Of course, I explaind why.

However, a first thing:

SIMEMU was created by Daniel Jabif (not Dejan, Dejan makes the SIMSCAN).


More about your idea:

You can only have one line, because you only have one radio equipament. You only have one link of radio at the same time.The service of the operator is a call deflection. The operation are managed by the operator. He knows that one number not work and deflection the call. This is not possible from terminal.

Regards,
Sir Graham.

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martina
01-13-2004, 17:21
Hi SirGaham,

Can you explain me this?
I've a OMNI card (italian) and the relative clone. The close is SimEmu 6.01 on a Silver Card.
So, because my english is not good, i only say you the step with what i've seen.

Phone A = Phone with original SIM 8k
Phone B = Phone with the clone on a Silver card
Phone C = Other phone with an original OMNI card. (32.1k)

1- Turn on my phone with original sim
2- Turn on a second phone with the silver clone inside
3- all ok!

And now....

4- Phone A make a call to Phone C.
5- Phone C init to play sound! -> so all it's ok! right? ok!
6- Phone C refuse the call.
7- Now Phone C make a call to Phone A (or B, bacause the number is the same! ok?) ...-> but neither the Phone A neither Phone B init to play!!! but there is the voice of service... "The number selected is not avaiable at the moment..."

why?

SirGraham
01-14-2004, 08:02
Hi martina,

Yes, This is because the TMSI control this theme.

When the phone calls the SIM is authenticate and generate a TMSI. The TMSI is like a "dinamic IP" (is a example).

TMSI works in state of IMSI. Only the last TMSI received the call.

If you refuse the call is possible that the phone A donīt generate a new TMSI. And the las TMSI is from the Phone B.

Regards,
Sir Graham.

martina
01-14-2004, 08:35
aaahhhh......

now i've understand it!
Thnak you very much!!

Vinny P
01-15-2004, 00:55
So there is no possible way then to have 2 simultaneous phones with same sim id and 2 different numbers...

My logic...
The network of the service provider store the last sim id and phone number last used therefor only one of the 2 phones will work on receives... namely the last phone to send out a network request...

Is this correct?

Thanx
Vinny P

SirGraham
01-15-2004, 08:03
Hi,

It is more complicated. Exactly, Its the last phone that makes a autentication. The authentication can be generated by 3 ways:

- Makes a Call.
- Change the LAC.
- For time (normaly every 2 Days).

Some operators in spain (vodafone), changes the TMSI to switch on the phone...

Regards,
Sir Graham.