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I want to buy martech II. Please send us your best offer
www.martech.pl/shop
martech@hot.pl
Best Regards!
No offense Martech, but your box is PRETTY HARD expensive.....Much money for just one model (siemens)....... and with Freia in market doing 95% of Martech job........
I have all box in the market, only missing Martech II, but very $$$$ :( :D
freia is f,,ucked soft, only copiing hard work!!!
Martech to future support other new siemens models...
Martech is very easy unlock for test point adapters, no cut!!!
Martech is good support. Online help for customers.
Freia 0% = Sibyla, or Nostradamus support... ;)
Thanx Martech ...
p.s: ftp for update, download all siemens files, flash,swup,manuals,Service manuals is missing......................... :p
No offense Martech, but your box is PRETTY HARD expensive.....Much money for just one model (siemens)....... and with Freia in market doing 95% of Martech job........
I have all box in the market, only missing Martech II, but very $$$$ :( :D
I understand, and we respect your opinion.
Also we don't force anybody to buying it.
Just we think our prices are adequate to our devices (box+adapters+cables) quality, soft and support quality we give.
Also it's only tool in the market able to make new BootCore phones without cutting tracks...
Of course there are alternate method too - with cutting tracks or remove T9 ball ... So everybody have choice...
Regards!
can martech box repair bad testpoint cut phones???i don't know maybe exit something like that.....
cracker_jack
10-13-2004, 16:55
No offense Martech, but your box is PRETTY HARD expensive.....Much money for just one model (siemens)....... and with Freia in market doing 95% of Martech job........
I have all box in the market, only missing Martech II, but very $$$$ :( :D
Bro, this is only expensive if you are unlocking one Siemens per month. If you are serious unlocker and making money then you should be able to recoup your cash fairly quickly. This Martech is not cheap $hit but worth it if you want be able to unlock almost all Siemens. I buy Victor $1000.00 3 years ago, that was "pretty hard" cash for me then but I have made that money back +++++++++. I think you understand. You will not regret it.
Additionally, expensive equipment keeps the garage unlockers to a minimum. If Martech was $50.00 then your 14 old neighbor would be undercutting your unlocking fee....don't think you would want that.
P.S. I am only guy around in my city at the moment unlocking CF62, CF62t, C60, C61, etc. Friea cannot do that. and I can get away charging more money for that....for now.
Thx for asnwer, Martech. I got your point.
cracker_jack: ok, bro. I got your point too. Believe me, I´m NOT a "sunday unlocker". I live from this and all tools I have are original. Maybe the problem is me, living in a poor Latin America country.... :D
Regards to all
I MUST agree with fgl30.
I like Martech soft very much, but I didn't bought it only becouse of the price.
Unfortunately there are lots of people in this big city who make unlock for low price by cutting tracks and using all possible free solutions (java patchers and so).
x65 logger will be available also very soon. I know about.
I think Martech would have much more customers if price would be a bit lower. Especially in eastern europe countries, where people have little money and unlock is not so royal paid as in England (20-30 pounds).
No garage unlocker would buy Martech for 200-250 euro but much more people who don't unlock tons of phones but wish to use professional software. For example Fighter was earlier 3-400 USD, now it's 250 USD, and I've bought Fighter.
I don't like to be called as "garage" and "sunday" unlocker becouse I don't unlock hundreds of phones every week. I have original (third party of course) tools for nearly all phones, but the high investment in Martech is simply not affordable becouse of the many "track cutting" people making the job cheap.
So I really don't have the choice - I don't want to cut anything in a phone and can't buy Martech (especially incl. not free x65 update) so I don't unlock newer Siemens phones. Very simple.
I think high price is good for those who unlock lot of phones, but not so good for Martech Team since they don't earn with a sold box anymore. And not good for people with smaller budget since they can't use professional software for their work, even if less quantity.
This is my hungarian opinion :)
mobileland
10-14-2004, 01:38
Not everybody should have Martech equipment!
The price is fair and right.
Also you cannot compare Fighter(always the last one with solutions, very unstable software ...) with some tool like Martech!
Best Regards!
debeliamark
10-14-2004, 06:04
unlocking CF62, CF62t, C60, C61, etc. Friea cannot do that.
It's not true! Freia can do the job perfectly! Tnx to Nutzo!
Yes, bro, YOU GOT MY POINT!!!!!!! In my country now there´s some idiots "cutting tracks" unlocking for about 1,67 USD..... you believe that?!?!?!?!
I MUST agree with fgl30.
I like Martech soft very much, but I didn't bought it only becouse of the price.
Unfortunately there are lots of people in this big city who make unlock for low price by cutting tracks and using all possible free solutions (java patchers and so).
x65 logger will be available also very soon. I know about.
I think Martech would have much more customers if price would be a bit lower. Especially in eastern europe countries, where people have little money and unlock is not so royal paid as in England (20-30 pounds).
No garage unlocker would buy Martech for 200-250 euro but much more people who don't unlock tons of phones but wish to use professional software. For example Fighter was earlier 3-400 USD, now it's 250 USD, and I've bought Fighter.
I don't like to be called as "garage" and "sunday" unlocker becouse I don't unlock hundreds of phones every week. I have original (third party of course) tools for nearly all phones, but the high investment in Martech is simply not affordable becouse of the many "track cutting" people making the job cheap.
So I really don't have the choice - I don't want to cut anything in a phone and can't buy Martech (especially incl. not free x65 update) so I don't unlock newer Siemens phones. Very simple.
I think high price is good for those who unlock lot of phones, but not so good for Martech Team since they don't earn with a sold box anymore. And not good for people with smaller budget since they can't use professional software for their work, even if less quantity.
This is my hungarian opinion :)
mobileland
10-15-2004, 20:42
I would unlock 100 siemens for 70-80e!
The price is small???
No, it's the price!
But with test-point addapters I can do it in 30min max!Without any possibility of dammaging phones!
Best Regards!
Martech official site is selling the box for 420 Euro, does this mean that this is the cheapest price for the box ? the shipping cost is also very expensive. I do not have problem with paying for box, as I have bought many boxes. but i only get about 1 CF62 per month. it would take me a year just to break even with a Martech box.
I really want the box, because now unlocking is my business, but this one is really difficult money for the small returns.
Redbox ...paid for itself and making me money.
Vxxx clip, make me money,
Smart clip making me money,
Griffen not yet making me money, but eventually ( used DCT4 calculator).
Terminator making me money,
Samsung clips make me money off the first phones.
I need to make money from Siemens....Is Martech the solution ?
Martech is THE solution, that's why it's price is so high.
Unfortunately there are only a few models which can be (safely) unlocked only by Martech, hopefully with x65 update there will be more.
My opinion is till now, that this price is good ONLY for these few people who unlock lots of phones (mobileland for example who can't imagine smaller amount of phones than 100 at once :) ). And they defend then their right strong :)
But high price is not good even for Martech Team, I'm sure. >400 euro for just to be state of the art is simply too much. The lower price would move even those to a purchase who can get back invested money only on longer period due to small quantities. Until then Martech box remains the privilege of big (monday-friday? :) ) unlockers, but I don't understand why is it good for the producer of the box.
If I'd be the only one who says (thinks) that, then maybe I'd be wrong, but I'm not.
Believe me forget money and buy this box, I never see more friendly and professional box/software and I never expect problems like my friend who cut track lines with needle and wetting him self.
And about price I wish also UFS tornado to have same price like Martech 500$ because every who have Griffin now buy Tornado as a second option.Tomorrow maybe if Tornado price fall down to 100$ I think every neighbors in my house will buy Tornado :mad:
Conclusion: Martech pleas keep this price in a future ;)
wbr.
But with test-point addapters I can do it in 30min max!Without any possibility of dammaging phones!
Best Regards!
That must be a record. :) Only in way that someone dismantle phones
for you, and you just connect adapters on board, and unlock. Closing
phone, again do someone other :)
mobileland
10-16-2004, 08:39
Mate, I am paying four peoples in my repair section of my store.
Not to mention the sales part!
The opening and closing can be done by any friend or sales worker!
Best Regards!
As usuall, there is no 100% working and safe solution.
Freia is free, can unlock and flash most of models, with opening and cutting tracks, or java patch.
- Very easy to kill the phone with scalpel (i've unlocked few hundreds, and killed only one :D)
- You cannot unlock new phones with intel flash chip so far
Martech is not free, but have support - new loaders, etc.
The thing with test point adaptors is also risky.
- You still have to open Your phone, so You loose waranty.
- Test point adaptor still can kill the phone - either by unlocker mistake, or bad phone hardware it self.
Is it safe then cutting ? Yes, sure. Faster probably, too.
In any case, Simens is pain in the as.s these days, so no "click and forget" solution, hehehe -;)
As reseller for other products, i have many requests for Martech box. haven't sold any till now, but this will change.
Problem is, from my point of view, a quite funny price politics. :(
I think that every box should be 500EUR :) only because there are a lot of unlockers which are to cheap ;)
I have Martech... I don't unlock a lot of Siemens phones... BUT
I like Martech Box because it is on USB and don't need anything more (no need for additional power supply 230V), it is fast and reliable solution and very simple!
Most of unlockers are buying a box only if they get back money in about 3 days!
Maybe you should think about few weeks or months ;)
I hope that Martech will never have smaller price ;)
evan_silbert
10-16-2004, 16:16
I agree that Martech is worth the money but you must remember that to keep clones from being a good value, boxes must stay within a certain price range.
Cloned Twister is not a good bargain since it is almost the same price as the original, usually.
Everyone uses cracked MSS since it is $600+logs....
Just a thought. I would rather have many pay full price that is a bit lower than a few pay the high price, then 100s pay cheap cloners...
Martech is not cloned yet...
The reason is maybe, that they have protected their solution very well
and they are the only one that has solution for Siemens phones without cutting and so on... and it work on more models that all other Siemens soft.
The price is OK :)
evan_silbert
10-16-2004, 16:35
I agree that Martech is worth the money but you must remember that to keep clones from being a good value, boxes must stay within a certain price range.
Cloned Twister is not a good bargain since it is almost the same price as the original, usually.
Everyone uses cracked MSS since it is $600+logs....
Just a thought. I would rather have many pay full price that is a bit lower than a few pay the high price, then 100s pay cheap cloners...
Yeah, Martech box worth the price, it keeps ahead with new solutions, before these new phones become free for all you can sure make your money back many times over.
BR
I have paid the price of martech I, and II box and i think i received 100x the both prices because only martech can do some things in some siemens phones.
but it is not a must for all people to have a martech box....
I'm ready to buy the martech III box /adaptor becasue i know it makes the money
it should be more money, each professional unlock tool should cost about 800 usd at least, that will keep the market price higher for each phones unlocking. I am in a small place and make about 10000 usd a month, if the tools wuld cost just a little more i could charge maybe double, end result would be 15000 maybe 20000 a month, the money spent for unlock tools is made back very fast. So keep the price up, developers, thank you.