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sm@sh
08-26-2005, 23:08
I'll explain what I mean. 2 years ago I fooled T610 locked to Vodafone, at that moment I don't had terminator yet. I took sim-emu card, entered IMSI with vodafone network code and random KI. Power on the phone, entered the PIN, phone started up, then I went to Sim-Emu menu and selected my IMSI/KI entry with my operator...
Anybody know if this trick work on 6630 ? Some people offer vodafone locked 6630 on very good price :)

3GSHOP
08-27-2005, 10:43
I'll explain what I mean. 2 years ago I fooled T610 locked to Vodafone, at that moment I don't had terminator yet. I took sim-emu card, entered IMSI with vodafone network code and random KI. Power on the phone, entered the PIN, phone started up, then I went to Sim-Emu menu and selected my IMSI/KI entry with my operator...
Anybody know if this trick work on 6630 ? Some people offer vodafone locked 6630 on very good price :)

it work tested and approved

crux
08-27-2005, 13:41
cool. didnt know about this

can u explain a bit better and detailed pls :D

CH@IN
08-27-2005, 13:55
cool. didnt know about this

can u explain a bit better and detailed pls :D

Same theory as here: http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=225565

If you have a phone locked to one specific network and you want to use it with a different network sim, you can bypass the lock by first booting into a fake sim and afterwards changing into your other network provider.

Usualy the check is performed only during startup of the phone (at least for older models), so you can trick the device into thinking that you are using it for its intended network.

Ch@in

crux
08-27-2005, 14:35
oh. that

my mistake

sorry, i knew that :-s

but that never worked on any nokia till now

are u sure it will work in 6630

i tested that in k750i, sendo, motorola, t610

fontelense
08-27-2005, 17:12
Doesn“t work in BB5 platform, tested already many months ago...

crux
08-27-2005, 18:08
like i thought ;) ...

Murat Bekar
08-27-2005, 18:15
working tested by me..
just make a clone card with imsi 0809010100000000 and random ki with 16xFF and open the phone, after booting the phone in menu select the network you want to use.

working and tested on BB5 ( 6680 )
Regards"

offcina
08-30-2005, 18:27
i tried it....didmt worked! with portuguese 6630 locked to vodafone...tried to use tms....invald sim was the answer!

club gsm
08-30-2005, 22:10
hi
did u try on N90
club

CH@IN
08-30-2005, 22:32
i tried it....didmt worked! with portuguese 6630 locked to vodafone...tried to use tms....invald sim was the answer!

Invalid sim??? Remember, the IMSI we use is a fake one just to turn on the phone... you will have to switch to the other correct KI cloned card to have an operating connection with the network. Still Invalid???

Also, the IMSI you use to turn on your phone must be Vodafone Portugal... you could try to use the original IMSI of the card that was purchased with the phone, just the KI should be fake (FFFFF...FFFF), because there are different ways to lock a phone... network lock, sim lock, etc.

You can use the below link to check if your original IMSI is Vodafone Portugal or something different.

IMSI Numbering Website (http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php?goto=imsi&action=analyse&s=268010000000001&action=analyse)

Your fake IMSI for Vodafone portugal should be something like this 268 01 0000000001.... just in case you tried the number from the other post to start your mobile. http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/monkey.gif

You still have to convert this IMSI with add + swap to make it work with simemu... I'm too lazy to do that for you now, maybe somebosy else can do that below my post or just use the instructions I wrote 3 years ago:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=51024&highlight=imsi+faq

crux
08-30-2005, 23:14
wrong

imsi for input in sim-emu for vodafone portugal should start with

08298610

fontelense
08-31-2005, 00:17
Yes, Vodafone PT IMSI starts with 08298610. Anyway, it doesn't work on BB5, phone restarts and checks the locks even if you try to change to another network through Sim-Emu. So, no bypass simlock trick here, at least with current Sim-Emu software inside card.

Best regards

crux
08-31-2005, 10:28
no. it doesnt. tested yesterday.

never worked in any nokia.

CH@IN
08-31-2005, 10:29
wrong

imsi for input in sim-emu for vodafone portugal should start with

08298610

That's what I said ... "convert my number to make a valid for Sim-emu IMSI"

Add 809 in front of the IMSI and do the swap.

1 add 809) 80 92 68 01 00 00 00 00 01 --->
2 swap nrs) 08 29 86 10 00 00 00 00 10

Do you see any difference to what you said?

crux
08-31-2005, 10:43
nice :D
..................

yousha
08-31-2005, 11:03
is there anyother way instead of sim-emu can i do this way

1=clone motorola test sim to bypass the net restriction
2=than select the second line in the silver card

it works? or not any1

CH@IN
08-31-2005, 11:03
@crux:
:p
I guess Nokia uses a different reset to switch the card than SonyEricsson phones... strange that murrat in above post reported it works with a nokia.

We should make a thread to check which phones can be cheated... I'd love to have a K750 and trick it like this until I find a cheap unlock solution..


@yoshua: try it and let us know

Regards

Ch@in

yousha
08-31-2005, 11:22
@chain

is there any software also which do the same as this php

http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php

CH@IN
08-31-2005, 11:26
@chain

is there any software also which do the same as this php

http://www.numberingplans.com/index.php

I know only this one yousha. (you can pay and get the database...but I don't think you need it)
Some sms-card readers like towitoko are sold with software that knows all providers, also cardinal as far as I remember has this feature too.

Regards

Ch@in

yousha
08-31-2005, 11:52
I hav tried out moto test card clone but i m unable to take any backup of this card i m using sim scan it finds the value upto 7 n quickly stops at 8 n don`t ask for saving any backup i m unable to find out wat is the problem

CH@IN
08-31-2005, 12:48
I hav tried out moto test card clone but i m unable to take any backup of this card i m using sim scan it finds the value upto 7 n quickly stops at 8 n don`t ask for saving any backup i m unable to find out wat is the problem

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86770&highlight=motorola%20test%20card

Maybe this info will help?

yousha
08-31-2005, 13:20
again there is a SIM-EMU role in that thread i m searching without SIM-EMU

can i clone moto test card with normal sim cloner:) ?

crux
08-31-2005, 23:22
@crux:
:p
I guess Nokia uses a different reset to switch the card than SonyEricsson phones... strange that murrat in above post reported it works with a nokia.

We should make a thread to check which phones can be cheated... I'd love to have a K750 and trick it like this until I find a cheap unlock solution..


@yoshua: try it and let us know

Regards

Ch@in


about k750i, it works ;)

tested 100% by myself

just go to menu and change card

voilį ;)

yousha
09-01-2005, 07:46
about k750i, it works ;)

tested 100% by myself

just go to menu and change card

voilį ;)

CRUX
can u please chk it on BB5 also:)

CH@IN
09-01-2005, 11:29
again there is a SIM-EMU role in that thread i m searching without SIM-EMU

can i clone moto test card with normal sim cloner:) ?

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean. The testcard has no special KI like any other card, so you don't need to scan for any information on the card but just make the few changes described in the post. No matter if you use sim-emu or any other product capable to emultate this info, the result remains the same.

What are you trying to do, make a clone of a testcard, then? Start up the phone with it? Ok, lets say it works, how are you going to switch to your normal network card without turning off the phone??? You still would need a multicard like sim-emu.

I think you try to permanently unlock your phone with a testcard? No, this is not possible as far as I know.

@Crux: thanks 4 the info m8 :)

Regards

Ch@in

yousha
09-01-2005, 11:37
u r not geeting me my frnd i will explain my idea

we all know we can bypass any network restriction with moto test card correct? Now i want suppose we hav a sim in which we can write upto 8sims on 8 lines n can select lines within phone now wat i want is write a test card on line 1 to bypass net restriction and write the required network on the same sim than select a required sim line within phone n i m sure it will work without rebooting

can u plz contact me via ICQ or MSN

Murat Bekar
09-01-2005, 11:56
I am not talking about motorola test or clone card... you can NOT program imsi and ki to motorola test or clone cards.

all you need is silver or green card. programm the silver card with 2 network info

1- imsi : 080910100000000000 ( imsi is 18 digits )
ki : FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
( this card works on all simlocked phones )

make the pin code 1111
2- imsi : your network imsi
ki : your network ki
make the pin code 2222

now your silver card has 2 numbers inside
insert your card to BB5, when it asks for pin code enter 1111 ( this will open 00101 test network ) after entering the menu from the simemu menu select your network,
this operation will bypass simlock check.
this is fully tested on 6680 and working %100..

all you need is silver card , icprog to programm silver card , your network information ( imsi and ki )

check sim cloning section for simemu software for silver card and more information how to programm silver card.

Regards

yousha
09-01-2005, 12:05
certainly
i m saying the same thing in easy words i need

1?wat to put IMSI which work as a test card IMSI must b 18 digits long
2?wat to put KI which work as a test card KI and must b 32 digits long
3?wat to put SMSC which works as a test card SMSC (its not imp as much as i know)

if the above three info i get i will convert into a .DAT file than there is no need of sim-emu NOW ITS CLEAR ?

Murat Bekar
09-01-2005, 12:07
and on my first post I ve post imsi as
0809010100000000 -> this is wrong imsi

0809101000000000 -> this is the right imsi for making universal card

Murat Bekar
09-01-2005, 12:11
@yousha

imsi is 18 digits long , and sorry again I ve said 16 digits :) right is 18 digits

imsi : 080910100000000000
ki : FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
SMSC : enter any number ( this is sms service center number I think )

this card will boot and open menu on bb5 phone

yousha
09-01-2005, 12:38
thanx MURAT
i will try n post here soon this forum has given me alot i lov it

thanx ZFRANK

club gsm
09-01-2005, 21:07
we wait for your result

club

Normunds
09-04-2005, 18:00
Method 100% not work for BB5. You can use original provider IMSI or Test Card IMSI (operathor 001-01) to enter menu, but when you swich between numbers - SIM CARD NOT ACCEPTED.
For other models work perfect!

Tested by me mounth ago with Nokia 6680, tested by my frends from Spain with Nokia 6630.

Normunds
09-04-2005, 18:02
@yousha

imsi is 18 digits long , and sorry again I ve said 16 digits :) right is 18 digits

imsi : 080910100000000000
ki : FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
SMSC : enter any number ( this is sms service center number I think )

this card will boot and open menu on bb5 phone

Man,,, NOT for BB5!!!

Correct test card IMSI is 080910100123456789

BR

Murat Bekar
09-05-2005, 10:12
it doees not matter the last 10 digits ..
it can be any number like 08091010*********x ..

and I ve tested this card and working changing network on 6680. I dont know if it works on 6630..

Normunds
09-05-2005, 14:34
Maybe it works Nokia 6680 with older vers. how v.3.04 ...

Murat Bekar
09-05-2005, 15:47
maybe.. I will try more and tell you the results.. this case was over 6 months. so it maybe older 6680 version

X-Shadow
09-06-2005, 12:07
Hi,

As far as I can remember, this method is only working for DCT3 Nokia phones
like 8250, 3310 etc... This method stopped working starting DCT4 Colored phones
like 6230, 7710 etc... I haven't tested it on 8310 and 6510, but I can assure you
that this method WILL NOT/NEVER work on BB5 phones and it does not matter what
version your phone is. Nokia already fixed this bug a long time ago and we can only
expect that all the phones that they will manufacture in the future will be free from
this bug.

This method however works well even on the latest Samsung, SonyEricsson, Sharp,
and some LG and NEC phones. Just make sure that the phone has a built-in SIM STK
menu.

What would be very interesting is finding a 1.8V Silverwafer card to act as a USIM (3G)
card to test it on those Japanese imported phones as well as those new LG phones.

Best Regards,
X-Shadow

Normunds
09-06-2005, 18:06
Yes, realy, me too very interested by 1.8V Silver card...

BR

vz
09-07-2005, 13:48
Who know algorythm of finding Ki checksum?
I want to bruteforce some... :)

Trempes
12-05-2005, 12:56
Please help me
I need fake ki and imsi for tree ( 3 ) U.K.
I have 6680

JIPC
12-06-2005, 05:09
Please help me
I need fake ki and imsi for tree ( 3 ) U.K.
I have 6680


You don't need fake ki and imsi because it won't work at all.:p

ufsx_moldova
12-07-2005, 07:34
Please help me
I need fake ki and imsi for tree ( 3 ) U.K.
I have 6680

Just to start phone you can try...

809 + (your network operator(e.g. 26801) + 0000000000 + after do the swap like is explained below

e.g.
1. 809268010000000000
2. 082986100000000000 -> this will be the right IMSI
and the KI formed from 16xFF.

stylius
04-11-2006, 19:28
It is realy vork on N6630 or not? Daes anybody tryed it and work 100% .Yes or not?

JIPC
04-12-2006, 05:38
It is realy vork on N6630 or not? Daes anybody tryed it and work 100% .Yes or not?

Read old post better yet search...
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?p=1469072#post1469072

simlock
05-10-2008, 10:08
so this is method of unlocking all new bb5 lol