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sujithsidhardhan
10-09-2006, 12:53
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com

abhi_12ka4
10-22-2006, 05:32
Thanks a lots for this nice topic to all

alex12345
10-22-2006, 13:36
thanks mate, very nice information ;)

regards
alex

Raklm
11-03-2006, 12:59
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/images/buttons/post_thanks.gifu can use this button for one word


BR
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Aymen G
11-04-2006, 03:16
excuse me sir. same phone don't accept sim 46k but 128. for exemple samsung P910i or LG U900
How can i solve this problem ?
thx for your attention .

Aymen G
11-06-2006, 11:05
excuse me sir. same phone don't accept sim 46k but 128. for exemple samsung P910i or LG U900
How can i solve this problem ?
thx for your attention .

sorry 64k not 46k .

gpkumaran
11-07-2006, 04:03
thank u very much. nice to know u r from india

dragonbbc
11-07-2006, 10:58
thank you very much!

hanen
11-11-2006, 04:15
thanks man :) :D ;) :p :( :confused: :eek:

tiggerkoo
11-24-2006, 10:10
see see learning,hehe

brad9m
11-27-2006, 06:05
Do you have a sim card reader/cloner that you recommend? I see a wide range of prices on ebay an such and I don't really know the differences. I live in the US (if that matters). I was a EE major, but our saying was always "The bigger the blob, the better the job" for soldering. Thanks

sujithsidhardhan
11-28-2006, 08:14
I prefer a dynamite programmer.
But a millenium programmer and a phoenix / smart mouse will do more than enough.

BURHANLAHERI
12-06-2006, 06:52
10x Very Nice Info!!!!!!

pj4rever
12-18-2006, 13:50
Thanks for the Gr88888888888 Share Dude
:D Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers:D

donaiGPG
12-23-2006, 06:36
what is clone sim card, i do not know it, i have many blank sim card for mobiles, are they clone?
:D

abidfarooq
12-23-2006, 07:15
Hi Mate Thanks For Good Information.

mukesh1007
12-26-2006, 17:05
thnk for this.............................

gsmsalers
12-30-2006, 15:39
Can I copy comp 2 card's with this?

gsmdreams
12-30-2006, 17:10
Can I copy comp 2 card's with this?

I dont think its possible sir.

BlinK_
01-01-2007, 01:10
@sujithsidhardhan,

thanks, great tut. I have one question. How can I determine if my SIM is COMP128V1 through Woron Scan 1.09?

sujithsidhardhan
01-01-2007, 20:26
@sujithsidhardhan,

thanks, great tut. I have one question. How can I determine if my SIM is COMP128V1 through Woron Scan 1.09?

try a scan with woron scan. if its comp128V1 only woron scan will continue scan. if its a newer version woron stops scanning

BlinK_
01-01-2007, 21:13
I see. I am new to all of this. So I soldered my SIM CARD READER just few days ago. And I tried to scan for Ki with Sim Scan v2.01 and with Woron Scan v1.09. I read few Dejan's tuts and explanations. He wrote that almost every card from 2000-2002 has a limit of A38 set at 65535. So I scaned my SIM with Sim Scan in normal and Strong Ki modes till A38 reached 65000 then i stopped. That program gave no results. After that I started Woron Scan. It started scanning just fine (so i guess my card is COMP128V1) but after 40000 cypher texts I stopped because i thought that my card is NOT COMP128V1. So do i need to let Woron Scan reach 65535 and keep on running till my Ki will be found? What chances are that my SIM will be destroyed? Thank you for information.

PS Your tutorial does not say anything about settings in Woron Scan. Do I need to set anything?

PPS I downloaded Woron Scan from kievsat forum. So I guess it is the right one.

renjith babu
01-03-2007, 12:22
hi sujith,
thanks for the useful information
keep going:)

pga
01-04-2007, 17:42
can anyone explain about what is the mean of "strong ki" in dejans sim scaner:rolleyes:

BlinK_
01-05-2007, 00:34
can anyone explain about what is the mean of "strong ki" in dejans sim scaner:rolleyes:

Yea. I would like to know that too. Although all my scanned cards were comp128v2, I am still interested what that option does.

aijazkamil
01-06-2007, 20:25
thanks Man It is really usefull for us

sujithsidhardhan
01-07-2007, 18:30
I see. I am new to all of this. So I soldered my SIM CARD READER just few days ago. And I tried to scan for Ki with Sim Scan v2.01 and with Woron Scan v1.09. I read few Dejan's tuts and explanations. He wrote that almost every card from 2000-2002 has a limit of A38 set at 65535. So I scaned my SIM with Sim Scan in normal and Strong Ki modes till A38 reached 65000 then i stopped. That program gave no results. After that I started Woron Scan. It started scanning just fine (so i guess my card is COMP128V1) but after 40000 cypher texts I stopped because i thought that my card is NOT COMP128V1. So do i need to let Woron Scan reach 65535 and keep on running till my Ki will be found? What chances are that my SIM will be destroyed? Thank you for information.

PS Your tutorial does not say anything about settings in Woron Scan. Do I need to set anything?

PPS I downloaded Woron Scan from kievsat forum. So I guess it is the right one.

you downloaded from the right place. you need to set only the correct com port. there is a chance of risk if you reach the limit. anyway its a trial and error. i got only one card destroyed in the process. that too with continuous scanning. anyway try at your own risk.

bobmonk
01-08-2007, 07:41
Can anyone tell me the code for my sons car radio it's a philips sc201 chassis number gm0201s1636225.... thanks

BlinK_
01-08-2007, 20:44
@bobmonk, i think you really got lost in this forum.

@sujithsidhardhan, thanks mate for the info. I tried to scan 2 SIM cards of the same provider. No luck. Did 65500 tries (I was afraid of doing more) and none pair of KI was found. I guess both SIMS were COMPV128. I will try to scan more SIMS from another providers.

sujithsidhardhan
01-09-2007, 12:16
@bobmonk, i think you really got lost in this forum.

@sujithsidhardhan, thanks mate for the info. I tried to scan 2 SIM cards of the same provider. No luck. Did 65500 tries (I was afraid of doing more) and none pair of KI was found. I guess both SIMS were COMPV128. I will try to scan more SIMS from another providers.

keep on trying. its better to try the cards before 2002. the success rate is more than newer cards.:D

mansoura
01-11-2007, 22:13
Thanks & Good Luck :):)

justin888
01-18-2007, 09:25
thanks .. i wil test and give you feedbak

unterulmen
01-28-2007, 10:31
Thanks for this description!

Which one is the 5R Start pair? I´m choosing 0 or 1 Pair and got no result. (No 2R attack collision found....)
When I`m choosing 6 or 7 Pair I destroy the card. (probably due to too many attemps?)

THX

UU

unterulmen
01-28-2007, 11:27
Is this a sign, that my card is 128compv2 or v3 and can not be cloned?

THX

UU

mfouk
02-06-2007, 20:24
hi
My card reader is a PCI gemcore based smartcard controller, in my DELL laptop.
I have downloaded some programs to read cards, but they do not regognize the hardware, so no more actions can be taken.
So if you have some ide pleaes post me.
thanks in advaance

note: the link to simeasy dosn't work

unterulmen
02-07-2007, 12:31
hi
My card reader is a PCI gemcore based smartcard controller, in my DELL laptop.
I have downloaded some programs to read cards, but they do not regognize the hardware, so no more actions can be taken.
So if you have some ide pleaes post me.
thanks in advaance

note: the link to simeasy dosn't work

I think you need a Smartcard Programmer, not only a reader!
You can get a Master CRD for less than 30 EUR or a complete Sim Cloning (USB Programmer and 1 Blank Card) Set for less than 20,-- at EBAY.

I have a Acer Travelmate Notebook with Smart Card Slot, but it is only used for a security card whitch enables the Notebook to start. This slot is not a Storage Drive or Programmer. I´ve tried it and it didn´t succeed.

vresa
02-10-2007, 19:45
Thanks for this description

.::Munazzam::.
02-11-2007, 12:26
dear thx veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery much

allag
02-13-2007, 15:21
Hi Gyes Can Weclone A Sim Card And Use It To Call

allag
02-13-2007, 15:22
:D Hi Gyes Can Weclone A Sim Card And Use It To Call

gkbhanja
02-14-2007, 16:23
good work but can it repair a unusable locked sim?

almasa
02-15-2007, 08:18
thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks

dreamphonegsm
02-27-2007, 10:48
thannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnks

bebiloku
02-27-2007, 11:02
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com
WHERE TO BUY THE BOX IN YOUR MANUAL ?
THANK YOU FOR FULL SOLUTION.

bebiloku
02-27-2007, 11:03
Where To Buy The Box In Your Manual ?
Thank You For Full Solution.

Muhsmmad
02-27-2007, 14:00
HI
Any body having xsim beta version then please send it to me at my email address muhsmmad@yahoo.com I will be thanksful to you.

whitbywitchuk
03-02-2007, 23:24
Hi there

I am a total newbie to all this so please bear with me. I have a new phone which is locked, could I clone it to use by using my old phone details, aka, are you cloning the phone or the sim? I took it that you were cloning the phone, but does said phone that is to be cloned have to be an unlocked one? I am wanting to use my new lg u400 which I bought off ebay. Also, could I clone my bf's too and run 3 off one account? lol or is that pushing it??;)

interesting stuff thanks
Whit

whitbywitchuk
03-02-2007, 23:32
oh just one more thing, if me and my bf where on cloned phones could we still phone each other? If so how?
#

sujithsidhardhan
03-05-2007, 14:29
oh just one more thing, if me and my bf where on cloned phones could we still phone each other? If so how?
#

NO way to call between cloned sims

whitbywitchuk
03-05-2007, 21:23
ahh cheers for that :D

el loco
03-12-2007, 05:40
how do you open these file Icant get them open without haveing to donwload a bunche of other stuff.

GS82
03-12-2007, 21:13
Does anybody know where can I get a silvercard, greencard or greencard2 in Argentina? Or the nearest location.
Thanks.
Alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir una silvercard, greencard or greencard2 en Argentina? O el lugar mas cerca.
Gracias

hannover
03-14-2007, 22:39
Forst of all THX for your PDF File!!!


But befor i start...
I'm from Germany here there ist a newer Sim-Card type V3...

Does anybody know if it ist possible to ectract the "ki" with the Software described in the pdf???

THX in advance

hannover
03-17-2007, 16:28
nobody here?



:eek::eek::eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

sujithsidhardhan
03-18-2007, 17:23
No way to extract the ki from V3 cards..

Prajith
03-21-2007, 02:44
Dear sujith

Where can I find Sim reader ( Hardware unit)that connect to computer?( In India or Dubai)
Can I get the schematics?

I want to read the data ( phone book and sms ) from a blocked (PIN or other)
sim

Pls give me details

Thanks in adv

Prajith

chopraji_gsm@yahoo.co.uk

sujithsidhardhan
03-21-2007, 13:34
You can construct a reader with the schematic in the guide. you can download the guiode from the first page. or just try ebay or any online shoppin site. you can find one.

NO way to read the data from a blocked sim

Prajith
03-21-2007, 17:42
Thanks Dear Sujith

Dear
Somebody said to me that possible read data from pin blocked sim....
can you re check with your resources.

Anyway I am thankful for the informations

Where u from dear? India ? Kerala ?

Prajith
A smiling baby

bujaro
04-12-2007, 03:09
Thanks, sujithsidhardhan for this excelent turorial!

alswedi
04-17-2007, 19:50
thank YOU very much for this doc

thay
04-17-2007, 23:27
it's all boring stuff because in germany we use v3 cards.
everything else is behind the moon.

thedangel
04-23-2007, 03:13
Thank you it's very interesting

shohaib
04-25-2007, 06:18
thanks to starter of this topic and others who quoted in forum.that increased a great in my knowledge.......

thanks

really thankfull.......................

RahimCasper
04-30-2007, 20:17
Your PART1.rar file is not downloading. When i click it it goes to login link but i m logged in with my username rest of the files are downloaded but only part1 is making mess.

BTW of which company Sim Card READER/Writer would u recommend

Thanx in Advance

shoeb7
05-01-2007, 19:12
thanks sujeet for the valuable infirmation.
regards!

prateek57
05-02-2007, 05:12
thnx Buddy

Lets See How much useful Is This.....

jvd_cool
05-05-2007, 12:17
thank you very much sir

talhaawan
05-08-2007, 10:12
thanks mate, very nice information................

smartvickey
05-16-2007, 04:57
than*********************xx
wro

linkmusa
06-04-2007, 04:00
why have you attached same file four times. I think rest r useless. One is enough!

Satyam321
06-18-2007, 22:51
Thanks very much useful for beginner

Satyam321
06-18-2007, 22:54
all why have you attached same file four times. I think rest r useless. One is enough!


hey mate all 4 is needed,

the file is divided in 4 parts and u need all 4 to extract it,

Pertinax
06-19-2007, 19:44
Is it possible to copy the information of a non-SIM card phone to a SIM card so you can use either one at different times?

sand975
06-19-2007, 22:42
very nice sidharth, im more happy it came from india. keep it up.expecting more and more from u ...thnx......... raj..india...

GsmXplorer
06-20-2007, 07:37
nice work east or west india is the best..

B.R

Dilip_Nath
06-20-2007, 09:18
It's a nice information, thanks for sharing.

zeeqsystems
06-27-2007, 07:29
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com
Nice post,
Thanks sidharth,

Regards,
Zeeqsystems

RadioPatrol
07-07-2007, 01:01
does anyone know where to find Cardinal 68 anymore ? most of the software links seem dead ...........

petermov
07-09-2007, 01:17
almost all links are dead because simcloning is dead, "new" cards (at least three years ago) are v2 cards, so is impossible to extract KI, wonoscan 1.09 is the most powerfull imsi/ki scaner I know, so forget cardinal.

kashi4gul
07-09-2007, 04:44
than*** for great info.......

kanwal
07-10-2007, 05:48
it is nice sharing of ideas brother

aarif
07-17-2007, 17:23
Hi,

I am new to this subject.

I have I-Dream U-SM20 Sim Card Reader, is it possible to use simscan with this card reader??

Where I get blank sim cards (In India) ???

Thanx.

Arif

karnkumarit
10-14-2007, 10:28
YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT,FREIND.
WOULD YOU SUCCEED TO MAKE CLONE PRACTICALLY?
IF IT POSSIBLE,PLEASE GIVE ME STEP WISE INSTRUCTION FOR MAKING CLONE OF NOKIA 66 SERIES AT karnkumarit@gmail.com

Gsm Solutions Ltd
10-20-2007, 17:09
YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT,FREIND.
WOULD YOU SUCCEED TO MAKE CLONE PRACTICALLY?
IF IT POSSIBLE,PLEASE GIVE ME STEP WISE INSTRUCTION FOR MAKING CLONE OF NOKIA 66 SERIES AT karnkumarit@gmail.com

Check here for guide

http://www.phonevolts.ie/product_info.php?products_id=150

sujithsidhardhan
03-30-2008, 06:06
******** :) *********

lofx
03-30-2008, 09:25
thank u very much. nice to know u r from india

ghaffar83
04-02-2008, 12:01
Anyone help me that How can I clone sim using "SIM MAX" Plz help

Gsm Solutions Ltd
04-12-2008, 12:17
Anyone help me that How can I clone sim using "SIM MAX" Plz help

Complete sim max guide - enjoy!

http://www.GSMsolutions.ie/phonevolts/pdf/SIM_Card_Clone_Guide.pdf

Br
Alan Donohoe
GSM Solutions Ltd

jay_dost2006
04-12-2008, 13:47
i need all hardware of it , any one have conatct me at 9929411729

chandio_180
04-28-2008, 20:41
Salam to all bro.....


Sir ur given idea is not working ....:confused::confused::confused:

I cant Clon v2 ( new Ufone , Talenor, and OthErs) sims via ur road Map..

if u can do it all ,,.////???

Then


Plz post ur Postal Add .. i well send u these Sim Card for cloning....

Plz dont Mind........:):):)

and Help All Of US...


THANKS ......

May ***** give us fredom from Pakistan.......

Ahmed From Sindhu Desh ( Pakistan )

chunguito
05-02-2008, 15:51
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/images/buttons/post_thanks.gif
i will give it a try, as son as i have the hardware needed.

cutefalcon
05-12-2008, 18:31
Hi

Nice to know you r in india,

thanx for this amazing guide, and most of all thanx for sharing it with us, ur fellow members.

Great going

tk care
cutefalcon

lofx
05-20-2008, 14:19
thinks . please continue

petermov
05-25-2008, 22:49
oh men, you´re wasting time... forget simcloning, new v3 cards are realising, so it is impossible decrypt v2, so v3 are more impossible.

There are developing new tool, scaning voltage differecens during attack to extract imsi... so thats for v2... now we ARE ON V3...!!!:(

KONAMI
05-26-2008, 20:14
Please can you post a link to download software? Tank youooooooooooooo

reachpinaki
06-02-2008, 06:58
jus wanna know if both the sim,the cloned one n the original one are used same time,is it possiible for both the user to listen to a sngle caller simultenously

JREDZ84
06-20-2008, 10:50
cardmaster 2.1 IM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING IT FOR DOWNLOAD

I have all programs needed to perform this, the Millenium 2000VX Max programmer is on its way, and the only thing I am lacking is this program.

can anyone post a link for a direct download..

MeanLeanMan
06-20-2008, 16:19
NO, it is not possible

jus wanna know if both the sim,the cloned one n the original one are used same time,is it possiible for both the user to listen to a sngle caller simultenously

uzochuka
06-21-2008, 01:30
thax u will go places bro

Naztheros
06-25-2008, 03:23
Many thanks for sharing this with us dude! :D

malik_it786
06-30-2008, 09:02
these files are currpet these are not extarcting