View Full Version : A Complete Guide To Sim Cloning
sujithsidhardhan
10-09-2006, 12:53
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com
abhi_12ka4
10-22-2006, 05:32
Thanks a lots for this nice topic to all
alex12345
10-22-2006, 13:36
thanks mate, very nice information ;)
regards
alex
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/images/buttons/post_thanks.gifu can use this button for one word
BR
Rak|m
excuse me sir. same phone don't accept sim 46k but 128. for exemple samsung P910i or LG U900
How can i solve this problem ?
thx for your attention .
excuse me sir. same phone don't accept sim 46k but 128. for exemple samsung P910i or LG U900
How can i solve this problem ?
thx for your attention .
sorry 64k not 46k .
gpkumaran
11-07-2006, 04:03
thank u very much. nice to know u r from india
dragonbbc
11-07-2006, 10:58
thank you very much!
thanks man :) :D ;) :p :( :confused: :eek:
tiggerkoo
11-24-2006, 10:10
see see learning,hehe
Do you have a sim card reader/cloner that you recommend? I see a wide range of prices on ebay an such and I don't really know the differences. I live in the US (if that matters). I was a EE major, but our saying was always "The bigger the blob, the better the job" for soldering. Thanks
sujithsidhardhan
11-28-2006, 08:14
I prefer a dynamite programmer.
But a millenium programmer and a phoenix / smart mouse will do more than enough.
BURHANLAHERI
12-06-2006, 06:52
10x Very Nice Info!!!!!!
pj4rever
12-18-2006, 13:50
Thanks for the Gr88888888888 Share Dude
:D Cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers:D
donaiGPG
12-23-2006, 06:36
what is clone sim card, i do not know it, i have many blank sim card for mobiles, are they clone?
:D
abidfarooq
12-23-2006, 07:15
Hi Mate Thanks For Good Information.
mukesh1007
12-26-2006, 17:05
thnk for this.............................
gsmsalers
12-30-2006, 15:39
Can I copy comp 2 card's with this?
gsmdreams
12-30-2006, 17:10
Can I copy comp 2 card's with this?
I dont think its possible sir.
@sujithsidhardhan,
thanks, great tut. I have one question. How can I determine if my SIM is COMP128V1 through Woron Scan 1.09?
sujithsidhardhan
01-01-2007, 20:26
@sujithsidhardhan,
thanks, great tut. I have one question. How can I determine if my SIM is COMP128V1 through Woron Scan 1.09?
try a scan with woron scan. if its comp128V1 only woron scan will continue scan. if its a newer version woron stops scanning
I see. I am new to all of this. So I soldered my SIM CARD READER just few days ago. And I tried to scan for Ki with Sim Scan v2.01 and with Woron Scan v1.09. I read few Dejan's tuts and explanations. He wrote that almost every card from 2000-2002 has a limit of A38 set at 65535. So I scaned my SIM with Sim Scan in normal and Strong Ki modes till A38 reached 65000 then i stopped. That program gave no results. After that I started Woron Scan. It started scanning just fine (so i guess my card is COMP128V1) but after 40000 cypher texts I stopped because i thought that my card is NOT COMP128V1. So do i need to let Woron Scan reach 65535 and keep on running till my Ki will be found? What chances are that my SIM will be destroyed? Thank you for information.
PS Your tutorial does not say anything about settings in Woron Scan. Do I need to set anything?
PPS I downloaded Woron Scan from kievsat forum. So I guess it is the right one.
renjith babu
01-03-2007, 12:22
hi sujith,
thanks for the useful information
keep going:)
can anyone explain about what is the mean of "strong ki" in dejans sim scaner:rolleyes:
can anyone explain about what is the mean of "strong ki" in dejans sim scaner:rolleyes:
Yea. I would like to know that too. Although all my scanned cards were comp128v2, I am still interested what that option does.
aijazkamil
01-06-2007, 20:25
thanks Man It is really usefull for us
sujithsidhardhan
01-07-2007, 18:30
I see. I am new to all of this. So I soldered my SIM CARD READER just few days ago. And I tried to scan for Ki with Sim Scan v2.01 and with Woron Scan v1.09. I read few Dejan's tuts and explanations. He wrote that almost every card from 2000-2002 has a limit of A38 set at 65535. So I scaned my SIM with Sim Scan in normal and Strong Ki modes till A38 reached 65000 then i stopped. That program gave no results. After that I started Woron Scan. It started scanning just fine (so i guess my card is COMP128V1) but after 40000 cypher texts I stopped because i thought that my card is NOT COMP128V1. So do i need to let Woron Scan reach 65535 and keep on running till my Ki will be found? What chances are that my SIM will be destroyed? Thank you for information.
PS Your tutorial does not say anything about settings in Woron Scan. Do I need to set anything?
PPS I downloaded Woron Scan from kievsat forum. So I guess it is the right one.
you downloaded from the right place. you need to set only the correct com port. there is a chance of risk if you reach the limit. anyway its a trial and error. i got only one card destroyed in the process. that too with continuous scanning. anyway try at your own risk.
Can anyone tell me the code for my sons car radio it's a philips sc201 chassis number gm0201s1636225.... thanks
@bobmonk, i think you really got lost in this forum.
@sujithsidhardhan, thanks mate for the info. I tried to scan 2 SIM cards of the same provider. No luck. Did 65500 tries (I was afraid of doing more) and none pair of KI was found. I guess both SIMS were COMPV128. I will try to scan more SIMS from another providers.
sujithsidhardhan
01-09-2007, 12:16
@bobmonk, i think you really got lost in this forum.
@sujithsidhardhan, thanks mate for the info. I tried to scan 2 SIM cards of the same provider. No luck. Did 65500 tries (I was afraid of doing more) and none pair of KI was found. I guess both SIMS were COMPV128. I will try to scan more SIMS from another providers.
keep on trying. its better to try the cards before 2002. the success rate is more than newer cards.:D
mansoura
01-11-2007, 22:13
Thanks & Good Luck :):)
justin888
01-18-2007, 09:25
thanks .. i wil test and give you feedbak
unterulmen
01-28-2007, 10:31
Thanks for this description!
Which one is the 5R Start pair? I´m choosing 0 or 1 Pair and got no result. (No 2R attack collision found....)
When I`m choosing 6 or 7 Pair I destroy the card. (probably due to too many attemps?)
THX
UU
unterulmen
01-28-2007, 11:27
Is this a sign, that my card is 128compv2 or v3 and can not be cloned?
THX
UU
hi
My card reader is a PCI gemcore based smartcard controller, in my DELL laptop.
I have downloaded some programs to read cards, but they do not regognize the hardware, so no more actions can be taken.
So if you have some ide pleaes post me.
thanks in advaance
note: the link to simeasy dosn't work
unterulmen
02-07-2007, 12:31
hi
My card reader is a PCI gemcore based smartcard controller, in my DELL laptop.
I have downloaded some programs to read cards, but they do not regognize the hardware, so no more actions can be taken.
So if you have some ide pleaes post me.
thanks in advaance
note: the link to simeasy dosn't work
I think you need a Smartcard Programmer, not only a reader!
You can get a Master CRD for less than 30 EUR or a complete Sim Cloning (USB Programmer and 1 Blank Card) Set for less than 20,-- at EBAY.
I have a Acer Travelmate Notebook with Smart Card Slot, but it is only used for a security card whitch enables the Notebook to start. This slot is not a Storage Drive or Programmer. I´ve tried it and it didn´t succeed.
Thanks for this description
.::Munazzam::.
02-11-2007, 12:26
dear thx veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery much
Hi Gyes Can Weclone A Sim Card And Use It To Call
:D Hi Gyes Can Weclone A Sim Card And Use It To Call
gkbhanja
02-14-2007, 16:23
good work but can it repair a unusable locked sim?
thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks
dreamphonegsm
02-27-2007, 10:48
thannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnks
bebiloku
02-27-2007, 11:02
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com
WHERE TO BUY THE BOX IN YOUR MANUAL ?
THANK YOU FOR FULL SOLUTION.
bebiloku
02-27-2007, 11:03
Where To Buy The Box In Your Manual ?
Thank You For Full Solution.
Muhsmmad
02-27-2007, 14:00
HI
Any body having xsim beta version then please send it to me at my email address muhsmmad@yahoo.com I will be thanksful to you.
whitbywitchuk
03-02-2007, 23:24
Hi there
I am a total newbie to all this so please bear with me. I have a new phone which is locked, could I clone it to use by using my old phone details, aka, are you cloning the phone or the sim? I took it that you were cloning the phone, but does said phone that is to be cloned have to be an unlocked one? I am wanting to use my new lg u400 which I bought off ebay. Also, could I clone my bf's too and run 3 off one account? lol or is that pushing it??;)
interesting stuff thanks
Whit
whitbywitchuk
03-02-2007, 23:32
oh just one more thing, if me and my bf where on cloned phones could we still phone each other? If so how?
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sujithsidhardhan
03-05-2007, 14:29
oh just one more thing, if me and my bf where on cloned phones could we still phone each other? If so how?
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NO way to call between cloned sims
whitbywitchuk
03-05-2007, 21:23
ahh cheers for that :D
how do you open these file Icant get them open without haveing to donwload a bunche of other stuff.
Does anybody know where can I get a silvercard, greencard or greencard2 in Argentina? Or the nearest location.
Thanks.
Alguien sabe donde puedo conseguir una silvercard, greencard or greencard2 en Argentina? O el lugar mas cerca.
Gracias
hannover
03-14-2007, 22:39
Forst of all THX for your PDF File!!!
But befor i start...
I'm from Germany here there ist a newer Sim-Card type V3...
Does anybody know if it ist possible to ectract the "ki" with the Software described in the pdf???
THX in advance
hannover
03-17-2007, 16:28
nobody here?
:eek::eek::eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
sujithsidhardhan
03-18-2007, 17:23
No way to extract the ki from V3 cards..
Dear sujith
Where can I find Sim reader ( Hardware unit)that connect to computer?( In India or Dubai)
Can I get the schematics?
I want to read the data ( phone book and sms ) from a blocked (PIN or other)
sim
Pls give me details
Thanks in adv
Prajith
chopraji_gsm@yahoo.co.uk
sujithsidhardhan
03-21-2007, 13:34
You can construct a reader with the schematic in the guide. you can download the guiode from the first page. or just try ebay or any online shoppin site. you can find one.
NO way to read the data from a blocked sim
Thanks Dear Sujith
Dear
Somebody said to me that possible read data from pin blocked sim....
can you re check with your resources.
Anyway I am thankful for the informations
Where u from dear? India ? Kerala ?
Prajith
A smiling baby
Thanks, sujithsidhardhan for this excelent turorial!
thank YOU very much for this doc
it's all boring stuff because in germany we use v3 cards.
everything else is behind the moon.
thedangel
04-23-2007, 03:13
Thank you it's very interesting
thanks to starter of this topic and others who quoted in forum.that increased a great in my knowledge.......
thanks
really thankfull.......................
RahimCasper
04-30-2007, 20:17
Your PART1.rar file is not downloading. When i click it it goes to login link but i m logged in with my username rest of the files are downloaded but only part1 is making mess.
BTW of which company Sim Card READER/Writer would u recommend
Thanx in Advance
thanks sujeet for the valuable infirmation.
regards!
prateek57
05-02-2007, 05:12
thnx Buddy
Lets See How much useful Is This.....
jvd_cool
05-05-2007, 12:17
thank you very much sir
talhaawan
05-08-2007, 10:12
thanks mate, very nice information................
smartvickey
05-16-2007, 04:57
than*********************xx
wro
linkmusa
06-04-2007, 04:00
why have you attached same file four times. I think rest r useless. One is enough!
Satyam321
06-18-2007, 22:51
Thanks very much useful for beginner
Satyam321
06-18-2007, 22:54
all why have you attached same file four times. I think rest r useless. One is enough!
hey mate all 4 is needed,
the file is divided in 4 parts and u need all 4 to extract it,
Pertinax
06-19-2007, 19:44
Is it possible to copy the information of a non-SIM card phone to a SIM card so you can use either one at different times?
very nice sidharth, im more happy it came from india. keep it up.expecting more and more from u ...thnx......... raj..india...
GsmXplorer
06-20-2007, 07:37
nice work east or west india is the best..
B.R
Dilip_Nath
06-20-2007, 09:18
It's a nice information, thanks for sharing.
zeeqsystems
06-27-2007, 07:29
I am a Computer hardware Engineer and I started this as a project for my Diploma in 1998. I managed to impress the invigilator by showing the basic things that can do with a simcard reader. I was able to extract the ki in the beginning itself, but due to lack of information or a proper guide i was not able to do the rest of the things. The main issue was with the wafer cards. At first i thought that, with a simcard reader and a used sim card i was able to program the card. But continuous searching provided me the basic knowledge. The next major issue was the availability of wafer cards. I searched almost every corner of india and nobody knows what a Silver Wafer card is. Atlast after 4 years, one of my friends brought me some Silver wafer cards from UK. I searched many forums about sim cloning and i cant find one succeeded from India. But i got some guides from some forums. But those were outdated and use only two simcards in 1 and were bit confusing too. So after experiencing these difficulties, i planned to make a guide for sim cloning. DONT USE THIS GUIDE FOR ANY ILLEGAL PURPOSES. USE THIS FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSE ONLY. I think i tried to explain each and everything in detail and if you have any questions or suggestions, please let me know. sujithsidhardhan@gmail.com
Nice post,
Thanks sidharth,
Regards,
Zeeqsystems
RadioPatrol
07-07-2007, 01:01
does anyone know where to find Cardinal 68 anymore ? most of the software links seem dead ...........
petermov
07-09-2007, 01:17
almost all links are dead because simcloning is dead, "new" cards (at least three years ago) are v2 cards, so is impossible to extract KI, wonoscan 1.09 is the most powerfull imsi/ki scaner I know, so forget cardinal.
kashi4gul
07-09-2007, 04:44
than*** for great info.......
it is nice sharing of ideas brother
Hi,
I am new to this subject.
I have I-Dream U-SM20 Sim Card Reader, is it possible to use simscan with this card reader??
Where I get blank sim cards (In India) ???
Thanx.
Arif
karnkumarit
10-14-2007, 10:28
YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT,FREIND.
WOULD YOU SUCCEED TO MAKE CLONE PRACTICALLY?
IF IT POSSIBLE,PLEASE GIVE ME STEP WISE INSTRUCTION FOR MAKING CLONE OF NOKIA 66 SERIES AT karnkumarit@gmail.com
Gsm Solutions Ltd
10-20-2007, 17:09
YOU HAVE GREAT TALENT,FREIND.
WOULD YOU SUCCEED TO MAKE CLONE PRACTICALLY?
IF IT POSSIBLE,PLEASE GIVE ME STEP WISE INSTRUCTION FOR MAKING CLONE OF NOKIA 66 SERIES AT karnkumarit@gmail.com
Check here for guide
http://www.phonevolts.ie/product_info.php?products_id=150
sujithsidhardhan
03-30-2008, 06:06
******** :) *********
thank u very much. nice to know u r from india
ghaffar83
04-02-2008, 12:01
Anyone help me that How can I clone sim using "SIM MAX" Plz help
Gsm Solutions Ltd
04-12-2008, 12:17
Anyone help me that How can I clone sim using "SIM MAX" Plz help
Complete sim max guide - enjoy!
http://www.GSMsolutions.ie/phonevolts/pdf/SIM_Card_Clone_Guide.pdf
Br
Alan Donohoe
GSM Solutions Ltd
jay_dost2006
04-12-2008, 13:47
i need all hardware of it , any one have conatct me at 9929411729
chandio_180
04-28-2008, 20:41
Salam to all bro.....
Sir ur given idea is not working ....:confused::confused::confused:
I cant Clon v2 ( new Ufone , Talenor, and OthErs) sims via ur road Map..
if u can do it all ,,.////???
Then
Plz post ur Postal Add .. i well send u these Sim Card for cloning....
Plz dont Mind........:):):)
and Help All Of US...
THANKS ......
May ***** give us fredom from Pakistan.......
Ahmed From Sindhu Desh ( Pakistan )
chunguito
05-02-2008, 15:51
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/images/buttons/post_thanks.gif
i will give it a try, as son as i have the hardware needed.
cutefalcon
05-12-2008, 18:31
Hi
Nice to know you r in india,
thanx for this amazing guide, and most of all thanx for sharing it with us, ur fellow members.
Great going
tk care
cutefalcon
petermov
05-25-2008, 22:49
oh men, you´re wasting time... forget simcloning, new v3 cards are realising, so it is impossible decrypt v2, so v3 are more impossible.
There are developing new tool, scaning voltage differecens during attack to extract imsi... so thats for v2... now we ARE ON V3...!!!:(
Please can you post a link to download software? Tank youooooooooooooo
reachpinaki
06-02-2008, 06:58
jus wanna know if both the sim,the cloned one n the original one are used same time,is it possiible for both the user to listen to a sngle caller simultenously
cardmaster 2.1 IM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING IT FOR DOWNLOAD
I have all programs needed to perform this, the Millenium 2000VX Max programmer is on its way, and the only thing I am lacking is this program.
can anyone post a link for a direct download..
MeanLeanMan
06-20-2008, 16:19
NO, it is not possible
jus wanna know if both the sim,the cloned one n the original one are used same time,is it possiible for both the user to listen to a sngle caller simultenously
uzochuka
06-21-2008, 01:30
thax u will go places bro
Naztheros
06-25-2008, 03:23
Many thanks for sharing this with us dude! :D
malik_it786
06-30-2008, 09:02
these files are currpet these are not extarcting