View Full Version : What about Bosch flasher???
BufferMess
03-18-2002, 22:56
Is it available for free now? Or we should wait for some time?
Thanks
BufferMess
BufferMess
03-19-2002, 18:48
What is the price of Bosch flasher? I can also offer some soft for
exchange!!!
BufferMess
I also need some information regarding this Bosch SW Flasher and flasher interface schematic (not eeprom data read/write by cbus)..Could someone give me informations about this. Thanks..
Br,
BufferMess
04-17-2002, 15:38
Hi
I know that some Siemens tools can be used for reading and writing flash to Bosch since they use Siemens processor. But I need full pinout of Bosch. C-bus can`t be used here because of its composite nature. F-bus should be used in this case! Anyone can give Bosch 909 full pinout, please?
Best Regards
BufferMess
BufferMess
04-17-2002, 15:44
To neb
Friend, you are from Phillipines! There are a lot of people here from that country. Can you find full schematics of Bosch 909 pinout? I will try to find some software!
BufferMess
Originally posted by BufferMess
To neb
Friend, you are from Phillipines! There are a lot of people here from that country. Can you find full schematics of Bosch 909 pinout? I will try to find some software!
BufferMess
Hello !
For flashing B909 we have to use C-BUS and ordinary Rx Tx together. Beleive me. I spend a lot of time about this.
C-BUS used for initial boot procedure. First boot loader have to load into phone via C-BUS and then Rx Tx (F-BUS) used for sending firmware (and maybe additional commands). Maybe C-BUS used too - I am not sure.
But as I can understand it should be additional connections on bottom connector - C-BUS and Rx Tx is not enough.
The only one really working sowtware that I know - original TE from Bosch. But it is not cracked in flash part.
I am not so smart in cracking, so don't ask me how to make this :)
Also, we need to know really pinout.
By the way, does anybody know something about S40 ?
I talk not about flashing - it's not hard.
I am so interested in the real pinout of factory service cable. There is C-BUS in S40 too, but I don't know something about pinout and C-BUS commands for S40.
B.R.
Tele
BufferMess
04-18-2002, 16:26
To te
Have you ever tried C-Bus with C25 Total Flasher for reading flash image? I have done such experiment. Well, I was expecting such result! It started reading flash without waiting for ignition (maybe C-Bus acted as autoignition) and the flash was full of FFs. and some rare characters. So I mean we can use Siemens flash readers for that but I need full pinout of 909 phones. If you have it, shall I ask it from you? Or at least number of Tx and Rx pins?
gsming2000@yahoo.co.uk
BufferMess
Originally posted by BufferMess
To te
Have you ever tried C-Bus with C25 Total Flasher for reading flash image? I have done such experiment. Well, I was expecting such result! It started reading flash without waiting for ignition (maybe C-Bus acted as autoignition) and the flash was full of FFs. and some rare characters. So I mean we can use Siemens flash readers for that but I need full pinout of 909 phones. If you have it, shall I ask it from you? Or at least number of Tx and Rx pins?
gsming2000@yahoo.co.uk
BufferMess
Hello BufferMess
I think you don't understand me correctly :)
Look... PMB CPU (inside Bosch and Siemens) has two serial ports.
One of these ports used for boot procedure.
In the C25 for initial boot procedure used port with separate Rx and Tx, but in B909 used C-BUS line (ordinary Rx and Tx line but mixed together).
Of course, you can't use any soft for x25,35,45 for flashing/booting B909. At first - you have to use boot loader for one-wire line (CBUS) and, of course, PC software adjusted for one-wire communication.
Also, don't forget about different hardware. Small example: I hope you remember c25v61 and lower versions.
Anyway, if you want to make your own experiments here is pinout (keyb top, from left to right).
01 - Gnd
02 - CD ??
03 - DTR ??
04 - RTS out
05 - CTS in
06 - DSR ??
07 - RTS ??
08 - ??
09 - ?? Speaker
10 - Gnd
11 - ?? Microphone
12 - Gnd
13 - ?? Flash Vpp. ?? Switch Voltage ??
14 - Data Tx
15 - ??
16 - +Battery
17 - ??
18 - Data Rx
19 - CBUS
20 - Charge
But now I think the first step what we have to do - we need find ORIGINAL factory flash cable.
B.R.
Tele
To Buffermes and te,
I got also TE4000 Service Repair Software for Bosch. But , I haven't tried to use the said soft. Since, I don't have also the pinouts of Bosch units as well as the schematic of the needed interface. If I got enought time, I'll be doing also some experiment using the pin configuration given (by te), If I came up with good result. I'll post it here.
Best regards to both of you..
Originally posted by neb
To Buffermes and te,
I got also TE4000 Service Repair Software for Bosch. But , I haven't tried to use the said soft. Since, I don't have also the pinouts of Bosch units as well as the schematic of the needed interface. If I got enought time, I'll be doing also some experiment using the pin configuration given (by te), If I came up with good result. I'll post it here.
Best regards to both of you..
Hello Neb !
The one of main problem that TE400 protected with dongle and I don't have cracked TE4000 :)
There is some boot files supplied in TE4000 package. Small boot file (boot*.fla) have to be loaded via C-BUS, and the other boot (fast*.fla) - via ordinary Rx Tx.
Maybe this will helps you in your experiments :)
B.R.
Tele
BufferMess
04-19-2002, 16:53
Thanks te for the pinout and information. I see, you have more info about Bosch than me. But I can`t imagine, it is very easy then
to write such a software that will use C-Bus protocol instead of
F-Bus to load boot loaders and easily flash the phone. But nobody wants to do it. Many programmers here write difficult and very complex software for free but nobody wants to do such easy work! Interesting! Unfortunately, I don`t know programming, I would write one!
BufferMess
Originally posted by BufferMess
Thanks te for the pinout and information. I see, you have more info about Bosch than me. But I can`t imagine, it is very easy then
to write such a software that will use C-Bus protocol instead of
F-Bus to load boot loaders and easily flash the phone. But nobody wants to do it. Many programmers here write difficult and very complex software for free but nobody wants to do such easy work! Interesting! Unfortunately, I don`t know programming, I would write one!
BufferMess
Hello !
As about soft. It' not so hard but...
I tried to make flash soft for it, but I tell again: I need schematic of original cable. Is is not enough only CBUS, Rx, Tx. Other pins should be in this game. And I don't have this info :(