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Due to the lack of stock of the setool from my side I bought the setool from GSM-Sources Hunter Liu to resell it to my customer. When customer got the setool and use it for once then they told me hey card blocked enter unblock code. I send Mr Liu the serial number of the card and ask what happen he reply how I know. I said pls check with your supplier he seem not very bother about it drag for weeks. Then he tell me how I know the box u bought is from me . WTF I told got problem then he find excuses. I ask him how u wan me to proof. He said send back the box. I told him I give u the serial number of the setool cant u check it in your database? He said not possible ok fine. I pay for the shipping to get the setool shipped back to me the n I send to him. When he got it he still told me how I know the card inside is mine since the seal is broken on the box cos my customer open it to check if the card issnt put in properly. Well everyone know its possible to read the card ID n see if its theirs right. I only request him to check wats wrong with the card if possible unblock it or change me a new 1. I not asking him to change me a new box but he refused.
I ask in the setool forum why is that so mr laser reply its most properly that the supplier did not pay up that why its blocked or very minor chances that the customer are hacking the setool which sound quite impossible as my customer dun even know how to use it as they ask me alot of question about it.
I already replace a new box to my customer now I just wan him to replace me a card or unblock it but he refused. Not a very good guy to deal with. Too many excuses when problem arised. I ask him if he if he keep tracking of the box ID he is selling he said no so they dunno if the card is his. What a lame excuse. Now waiting to see how is he going to settle with it. I will update the thread as it goes along.
Regards
GFI Team
fonesunlock
09-22-2007, 08:48
Alot of China resellers do this because they make VERY little profits. So when it comes to faulty boxes / cards they will try to prolong you in exchanging, or they will try to make excuses not to even exchange your product (i.e. "the warranty seal is broken" - when they know it wears out after some time, but they will keep on persisting that its broken and can't do anything about it). Strange thing in your case is that the card doesn't have his warranty label, normally resellers put it on their products. Anyway good luck with your case.
B.R.,
Amit.
p.s. just my point of view from dealing with china resellers.
Thank for your feedback. U see the owner or workers dont even dare to bother to reply. Whats the use of doing business with such irresponsible company. I have to chase him daily he happy then he reply if not then missing. He just keep on pushing the excuses say factory of the box say no warranty after opening the box. WTF I ask him for the warranty of the card not the box he sold me the stupid box with a faulty card now putting the blame on the box. As everyone knows card n the box are of 2 different manufacturers. I ask him why the card is blocked he cant tell me a reason b4 the box is been open. I think the reason is that he DID NOT PAY TO HIS SUPPLIER. The Box have a green sticker with a CAP R on it. I shouldnt buy from the shop which have the size SMALLER THAN MY ROOM TOILET. Maybe easier to run when there is trouble.
People Avoid Buying From GSM-Sources unless you wanna throw away your box if its faulty. He will push all the blame to you. Below is his details:
GSM-SOURCES
2FA012, NanFang Building International Electronic Digital Mall,
No.:28-32, Xidi 2 Rd., Guangzhou City,CHINA
Tel/Fax: 0086-20-62797521 Tel/Fax: 0086-20-89605176
Mobile:86-13710595238 QQ: 258149669
Web site: http://www.gsm-sources.com
ICQ: 246281952(Hunter)
ICQ: 267398768(Chally)
ICQ: 324560776(Victor)
MSN: gsmsources@hotmail.com
MSN: huntergsmsources@hotmail.com
MSN: hunter_link168@hotmail.com
MSN: shallywong168@hotmail.com
MSN: Challygsmsources@hotmail.com
MSN: Victorgsmsources@hotmail.com
Anyone who are the customers of "GSM-SOURCES" will get special prices from me if you can scan me the invoice from them. I will try to my best to whack their prices with quality goods n service :) Thank you.
Regards
GFI Team
I have dealt with gsm-sources and all went ok, the products were fine and on the time, in ur case i must say you aren't correct, how u expect support after you torn out the warranty seal ..
BR.
Alkapone
09-24-2007, 20:25
I all this story about one SE-Tool box ... reseller could simply change box. But seems something not payed from his side, so ...
B.R.
Alkapone
I all this story about one SE-Tool box ... reseller could simply change box. But seems something not payed from his side, so ...
B.R.
Alkapone
The problem is he is not sure if the card inside the box is his or not, if the warranty label was there it would be easy to judge who is right and who is wrong..
BR.
Mr Honey I ask you do you write down the Card ID when you sell out the box or stick your warranty seal on the card? The reason why the box warranty seal is broken is becos Hunter refused to reply me for almost 2 weeks when I ask him for the unblock code. When he reply to me lately what he said oh that impossible cos i sold XXXX quantity nothing like that happen. Then my customer was curious if the card is not place properly then he open up the box to check. We all know there is a ID No for each card. I just ask Hunter to read the ID no immediately he will know if its his. Whats the point of doing smart card with ID No if nobody uses it to keep track of their card. I ask him to send back to Mr Unlocker to check whats the reason, he dont even dare to send back cos he clearly know the reason is that the card issnt pay for. If not why is it been blocked.
U know what is disgusting? I gave the Card ID to Hunter he told me how I know its mine then I reply then how u wan me to prove? Snap pic for you or... He said send it back to me then I check if its mine then I exchange... to me I paid I ask customer to send back for all the shipping. Then I send it back to Hunter then he tell me the same thing oh the box seem to be mine but the card I dunno. WTF after all this hassle he told me such rubbish. Wasted my time and money.
Let me ask everyone is that the right way to play with customer??
Regards
GFI Team
I have dealt with gsm-sources and all went ok, the products were fine and on the time, in ur case i must say you aren't correct, how u expect support after you torn out the warranty seal ..
BR.
For me in biz we have winning and losing its normal. But for Hunter case he only wans to win and not lose even if he have to lose.
Mr Honey when everything is in working condition of cos you wont have problem from him. If the items are not working you see what you will expect from him. He will start push the blame to whoever he can think of. That issnt the way to do biz. Mr Honey you have good reputation here I know I believe you wont do that to customer right?
If customer bought a box from you and the card is blocked what will you do? I believe you will reply him immediately find out whats wrong then change for him right?
And if you reply very late then customer open the box to check if the card is loose or whatever as he needs to use it urgently and you did not put a seal on the card will u tell your customer OH HOW I KNOW THE CARD IS FROM ME...... I am interested to hear how are you going to settle this issue... Thank you.
Regards
GFI Team
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 08:19
hi GFI,
i respect u, then i reply to u.
The problem is that when we get u box, all 4 warranty stickers are broken, two warranty stickers is from factory, two warranty stickers from mine.
box are completely dismantled!!! i will make all pic for it for all members
of gsm forum. ask them who not obey warranty rules for software box.
i don't know why u customer open box, what he really want to do it.
even not ask permission from me when problem caused, or just put his own
blocked card inside box for warranty i don't know.
For all here, box maker and author, and supporter, why put warranty sticker on box??? i think all man in this world, even in gsm field, all know it.
to avoid hacker and ****ed man open box, hack box.
so everybody can talk here freely, who are right?
Best regards,
Hunter/gsm-sources team
..::Mr999::..
09-25-2007, 08:20
@ GFI
mate , i have nothing to do here , but simply you can think if software asking for "key" or "string" that simply mean card is ok , and setool or other new software always give error while you run without dongle or box "Protection card error". so no Reason to broke the warranty.
Br ;)
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 08:43
I have dealt with gsm-sources and all went ok, the products were fine and on the time, in ur case i must say you aren't correct, how u expect support after you torn out the warranty seal ..
BR.
Dear honey,
hope everything go well with u.
thanks for respecting the support for all box maker, author
and box supporter.
best regards,
chally
gsm-sources team
I know that but customer dunno. Cos he n delay delay telling me why is the card blocked n I ask him for the unblock code so no need to resend the box back to me from overseas save trouble for both of us. But he refused. Due to the delaying customer need to use the box he read in the forum some card might be not put properly so he open the box up n check. Tats all.
Regards
GFI Team
@ GFI
mate , i have nothing to do here , but simply you can think if software asking for "key" or "string" that simply mean card is ok , and setool or other new software always give error while you run without dongle or box "Protection card error". so no Reason to broke the warranty.
Br ;)
hi GFI,
i respect u, then i reply to u. <-- I am your customer of cos you have to reply me if your product issnt working after the first use. Is that what you mean by good service? And how u treat your customer?
The problem is that when we get u box, all 4 warranty stickers are broken, two warranty stickers is from factory, two warranty stickers from mine.
box are completely dismantled!!! i will make all pic for it for all members
of gsm forum. ask them who not obey warranty rules for software box. <--- Its becos you keep on delay n refuse to give the unblock code after I ask u again n again. Make me waste money by sending the box back for u just to see and tell me Oh How I know the card is mine blah blah. If you are a good reseller why cant you just give me the unblock code and everything is settled. I ask arguing with the ownership of the card not the box.
i don't know why u customer open box, what he really want to do it.
even not ask permission from me when problem caused, or just put his own
blocked card inside box for warranty i don't know. <------ See pushing the blame again saying he dunno if the card is his. Then why dun u put warranty seal on it or write down the serial number. Now you cant even control your supplier how can u assure even if I ask permission they will still exchange for u? How they know if I have ask u permission take it as way they also wont exchange for you as both of you are as*hole.
For all here, box maker and author, and supporter, why put warranty sticker on box??? i think all man in this world, even in gsm field, all know it.
to avoid hacker and ****ed man open box, hack box. <---- Why dun put warranty seal on the card is it just becos when its faulty you can find excuses oh how I know the card is mine right?
so everybody can talk here freely, who are right?
Best regards,
Hunter/gsm-sources team
Ok simple just answer these questions:
1) How come you cant give me the unblock code when I provide you with the serial number on the spot?
2) Why cant you check with your whoever WHY is the card blocked after using 1 time?
3) Why dont you write down the serial number of the card or put warranty seal on the card as we all know card n box warranty is from 2 different person. So its warranty from the box manufacturer and the card is warranty by the author.
4) Let say if you tell your supplier oh I gave them permission to open the box and all seal are broken will they still exchange the faulty card for u?
5) Lastly tell me if the card is yours? :D Stop playing Taichi k.
Think and honest me honestly. All of us will be watching :P
Regards
GFI Team
@ GFI
mate , i have nothing to do here , but simply you can think if software asking for "key" or "string" that simply mean card is ok , and setool or other new software always give error while you run without dongle or box "Protection card error". so no Reason to broke the warranty.
Br ;)
Thank Mr 999. The card is there but no workable simply becos its someone did not pay for the box most likely and refused to tell me as its embarrassing. The card if damaged like you said it wont be asking for key, string or watever.
My question is why cant he just check the ownership of the card when I gave him the serial number if its his and if so give me the unblock code. Issnt that simple? Then when my customer opening or not opening the box issnt a matter to us anymore. We just give him the unblock code tats all. Simple?? ;)
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 09:56
Alot of China resellers do this because they make VERY little profits. So when it comes to faulty boxes / cards they will try to prolong you in exchanging, or they will try to make excuses not to even exchange your product (i.e. "the warranty seal is broken" - when they know it wears out after some time, but they will keep on persisting that its broken and can't do anything about it). Strange thing in your case is that the card doesn't have his warranty label, normally resellers put it on their products. Anyway good luck with your case.
B.R.,
Amit.
p.s. just my point of view from dealing with china resellers.
dear fonesunlock,
i know u are famous gsm product supporter,
we surely respect u support for u product.
but most gsm box make in china, most box with factory stickers,
if box have four stickers on box, normally not need put smart card
with warranty stickers.
so only see box stickers is ok, most easily way for worranty.
i think all four stickers go away not time wears out.
welcome for u opinion
best regards
Hunter
gsm-sources team
So how Mr Hunter? When replying my questions? and when sending my box back?
Regards
GFI Team
For me in biz we have winning and losing its normal. But for Hunter case he only wans to win and not lose even if he have to lose.
Mr Honey when everything is in working condition of cos you wont have problem from him. If the items are not working you see what you will expect from him. He will start push the blame to whoever he can think of. That issnt the way to do biz. Mr Honey you have good reputation here I know I believe you wont do that to customer right?
If customer bought a box from you and the card is blocked what will you do? I believe you will reply him immediately find out whats wrong then change for him right?
And if you reply very late then customer open the box to check if the card is loose or whatever as he needs to use it urgently and you did not put a seal on the card will u tell your customer OH HOW I KNOW THE CARD IS FROM ME...... I am interested to hear how are you going to settle this issue... Thank you.
Regards
GFI Team
It depends that time on my purchasing, If the box is arranged by me and the card from setool team or the box is arranged by a company who sell with card and put their warranty seals (this is the case of Gsm-Source).
If the case is first one then its very easy for me, i can check the serials (since i note them always but many resellers/distributors i have seen who don't note and put warranty labels only) and communicate with the team about this issue.
If the case is second one & warranty seals are torn out then its not easy, my supplier will reject it for sure & one have to pay for this, and this should be the end user who torn out simple.
BR.
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 10:34
I know that but customer dunno. Cos he n delay delay telling me why is the card blocked n I ask him for the unblock code so no need to resend the box back to me from overseas save trouble for both of us. But he refused. Due to the delaying customer need to use the box he read in the forum some card might be not put properly so he open the box up n check. Tats all.
Regards
GFI Team
@GFI
When u tell me problem, first my response is send my box
for check. i said if box is mine and really have problem i will change for u.
but u delay yourself. why not send me box quickly with warranty logs?????
i can't unlock it cus i don't know it card is from me or not. cus we
buy from other factory with stickers, i don't know what sn they sell.
in fact u card can't read sn at all, when open software, it only show
Infernal errror
card is blocked
unblock?
why u only give me sn i don't know, how i can unlock it????
best regards
hunter
You only talk and talk but when I say who is going to pay for the shipping immediately u hide and remain quiet. I pay for the shipping myself to HK then gone over to collect it then bring it into SZ then send to u.
I ask u to check with your supplier if the card is his. Even if he never keep record the author will keep record which card belong to who if not how they block it when the reseller never paid up? I am quite sure you did not do it as your attituide is like oh u paid already watever problem if I can push I will push to you not my problem so F Off.
Issnt it so hard to know if the card belong to you or your supplier and why is it blocked? Why you dont dare to ask from your supplier? If the card is his and why is it blocked? I just wanna know that if its unpaid then who fault is it? U say yourself. Then its not the matter why the warranty seal is broken or not. I just wanna get to the bottom of this.
I got an idea just send the card back to Mr Laser then ask him to post here wat causes the card to be blocked k. If its unpaid then I think u have to replace me a new card no matter what as its not my fault or my customer fault already. Hope that you can do it asap.
Bro you do business need to have ethics and have good customer sales service not pay taichi when problem arised.
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 17:59
You only talk and talk but when I say who is going to pay for the shipping immediately u hide and remain quiet. I pay for the shipping myself to HK then gone over to collect it then bring it into SZ then send to u.
I ask u to check with your supplier if the card is his. Even if he never keep record the author will keep record which card belong to who if not how they block it when the reseller never paid up? I am quite sure you did not do it as your attituide is like oh u paid already watever problem if I can push I will push to you not my problem so F Off.
@GFI
For warranty product, normally buyer pay send back cost, seller pay
send out cost, many factory, reseller and other seller do like that. we also do like that.
In fact, the card u send to me can't read sn, how to check this card from which reseller??? u lie to everybody here. i don't know where u get this card.
For this card u said have sn xxxxx, also ask me to unlock, i really
can't understand it, one of my reseller ask u read logs of this card
u not response, u say u already give me sn of card.
where u get this sn of this card???
best regards,
hunter
hunterlink
09-25-2007, 22:02
Ok simple just answer these questions:
1) How come you cant give me the unblock code when I provide you with the serial number on the spot?
Answer: i don't know this card from me or not, i ask u send my box back
it is very easy to check it. if have problem, i will change for u immediately with free dhl cost.
2) Why cant you check with your whoever WHY is the card blocked after using 1 time?
Answer: yourself already say the reason, but problem is that u customer open box with his own risk and lost warranty also.
3) Why dont you write down the serial number of the card or put warranty seal on the card as we all know card n box warranty is from 2 different person. So its warranty from the box manufacturer and the card is warranty by the author.
Answer: factory make the box and the card as one product, with two factory
warranty stickers on box, and also we put 2 warranty stickers, so no need put sticker on card only. four warranty sticker is enough. no time and no
labor make more.
4) Let say if you tell your supplier oh I gave them permission to open the box and all seal are broken will they still exchange the faulty card for u?
Answer: If somebody give permission, will follow his words without any doubt!!! we all man here.
5) Lastly tell me if the card is yours? :D Stop playing Taichi k.
Answer: i don't know where u get this card, cus box is opened,
Too much nonsense, u told me this card have sn xxxxx, but
when i get u card, tested with many working pcb, even it can't read
any sn, please answer me how u get this sn for your box????
Think and honest me honestly. All of us will be watching :P
Regards
GFI Team
@GFI
Please read all above carefully, don't ask same question always.
in one words, box are opened, mean that warranty lost.
don't blame my name, don't want use u own tricks to blame yourself.
don't do something like chidren, u think my customer all come to u???
very childish actions!!!
best regards,
hunter
gsm-sources
I recorded the SN of the box before selling unlike you con man. Well you did not pay for your card that why the author blocked it then push the blame to me. Hey even idiot know that opening the box wont make the card blocked. Never mind its my fault to buy from a suc_ker like you. Open your eyes Everyone who is smart can see very well that you keep on refusing to say that the card is from you simply when its faulty. Dun keep on using the same excuse oh you open the box blah blah blah. Blocked card issnt related to this ***-hole hunter.
Just ask for opinion fro everyone:
If you bought a setool n pay the seller and the seller if not pay to the author and end up the card is block then who fault do you think it is?
GSM-Sources are cheaters............. Be a man and admit your mistake if you are still a "MAN"
PS: Laser Laser say something why is that card blocked and who is the buyer for that card?
I recorded the SN of the box before selling unlike you con man. Well you did not pay for your card that why the author blocked it then push the blame to me. Hey even idiot know that opening the box wont make the card blocked. Never mind its my fault to buy from a suc_ker like you. Open your eyes Everyone who is smart can see very well that you keep on refusing to say that the card is from you simply when its faulty. Dun keep on using the same excuse oh you open the box blah blah blah. Blocked card issnt related to this ***-hole hunter.
Just ask for opinion fro everyone:
If you bought a setool n pay the seller and the seller if not pay to the author and end up the card is block then who fault do you think it is?
GSM-Sources are cheaters............. Be a man and admit your mistake if you are still a "MAN"
PS: Laser Laser say something why is that card blocked and who is the buyer for that card?
What a language, If even an idiot knows that opening a box will not make card blocked then why this idiot opened the box? to unblock it? really strange ... or maybe to change the card? what is the use of putting warranty seals?
Gsm-Sources are ok, I've tried them and i am sure that if there was a warranty seal on the box this would have never happened.
BR.
As I repeat and repeat again the customer totally never use unlocking box before he bought quite afew boxes from me for his servicing. So Mr Honey like i said even idiot know it then why do you think about Seller selling box which he did not paid then box got blocked. Who fault is it? Answer me pls.
I wrote down the serial number of the card inside the box and who I bought it from for this Setool so when Hunter ask for the serial number immediately i can give to him and ask him to check. But who know he is so sly push all the blame away now.
If in your case Mr Honey example only if you forget to pay for the box and it got block by the author and your naive customer who is a newbie open the box to check why his box is blocked as he is curious after he have requested for help and for watever reason you did not reply to him after so long. What will you do ?
1)Replace him a new box as its your fault/mistake as you forget to pay the author which lead to your customer box getting blocked.
2)Push all the blame to customer saying oh its your fault u open the box so no warranty and say oh how i know the card is mine cos I never write down the serial number when I am selling.. blah blah
Waiting for your "Sincere Answer" as it will reflect how you respond to your future customers Mr Honey.. Thank you.
Regards
GFI Team
Seem that I am not the only 1 who got problem with GSM-Sources lol.. Anyone else got cheated by him??
http://www.************.com/forum/showthread.php?p=282366#post282366
gsm source is bad resseller i have many probleme with him MR lazer it is not good for your product you must contact gsm source to give a resolution to this probleme
you are very nice moderator and setool is our prefer box and we dont like this bad news good luck and you can contact me perhaps i can solve your probleme
Replace the **** with m o b i l e-f i l e s
As I repeat and repeat again the customer totally never use unlocking box before he bought quite afew boxes from me for his servicing. So Mr Honey like i said even idiot know it then why do you think about Seller selling box which he did not paid then box got blocked. Who fault is it? Answer me pls.
I wrote down the serial number of the card inside the box and who I bought it from for this Setool so when Hunter ask for the serial number immediately i can give to him and ask him to check. But who know he is so sly push all the blame away now.
If in your case Mr Honey example only if you forget to pay for the box and it got block by the author and your naive customer who is a newbie open the box to check why his box is blocked as he is curious after he have requested for help and for watever reason you did not reply to him after so long. What will you do ?
1)Replace him a new box as its your fault/mistake as you forget to pay the author which lead to your customer box getting blocked.
2)Push all the blame to customer saying oh its your fault u open the box so no warranty and say oh how i know the card is mine cos I never write down the serial number when I am selling.. blah blah
Waiting for your "Sincere Answer" as it will reflect how you respond to your future customers Mr Honey.. Thank you.
Regards
GFI Team
Again something strange the customer is newbie and he is becoming an engineer here, he never use unlocking box before but he wants to repair the unlocking box, u are asking me the same question again u asked above and i replied, now i ask u one question, last week i got one infinity for repair from a local dealer who sells few boxes in a month (problem: card is not detecting), i got the box i checked its reading the card in device manager but not in infinity software, later after checking all i came to know this card was of cruiser & working in cruiser software not infinity, when i called this customer he said the person he gave this box has no other box and he returned the box second day of selling, he says there was no warranty seals and it is my mistake, i always check boxes before selling even this cruiser card was not sold by me, now my question for u is tell me what u want me to do change this card for customer or not?
BR.
Seem that I am not the only 1 who got problem with GSM-Sources lol.. Anyone else got cheated by him??
http://www.************.com/forum/showthread.php?p=282366#post282366
gsm source is bad resseller i have many probleme with him MR lazer it is not good for your product you must contact gsm source to give a resolution to this probleme
you are very nice moderator and setool is our prefer box and we dont like this bad news good luck and you can contact me perhaps i can solve your probleme
You want to say that in this link is other person? It is u posting there too.
BR.
These days without warranty seals is very difficult to get replacements/repairs , if there is only one seal of seller then he may can handle the situation but if their is main distributer seals also and its torned then the situation is not easy to handle.
BR.
From your first sentence I believe everyone here is an engineer as everyone uses a screw driver to check for small fault and remove a screw b4 for watever reason :D
IMO if the card is sold by you then you exchange it. I believe you written down the serial number of it b4 u sold it right.
Again something strange the customer is newbie and he is becoming an engineer here, he never use unlocking box before but he wants to repair the unlocking box, u are asking me the same question again u asked above and i replied, now i ask u one question, last week i got one infinity for repair from a local dealer who sells few boxes in a month (problem: card is not detecting), i got the box i checked its reading the card in device manager but not in infinity software, later after checking all i infinity, when i called this customer he said the person he gave this box has no other box and he returned the box second day of selling, he says thercame to know this card was of cruiser & working in cruiser software not e was no warranty seals and it is my mistake, i always check boxes before selling even this cruiser card was not sold by me, now my question for u is tell me what u want me to do change this card for customer or not?
BR.
Its all up to the seller if he is on good term with his distributor.
But my case is not the box is faulty or watever. Mine is the card is blocked as Hunter did not pay for the box and the author blocked it. So open or not opening the box doesnt trigger this issue even idiot know. I am not asking me to warranty the box itself. I just wan him to be reasonable n honest to replace the card inside.
Like I suggest he can send the card back to Laser as he is definately able to check the serial number in it and wats the reasons for blocking it and get it solved. So from the serial number its able to know if its sold to Hunter Supplier if so then it matched that the box n the card is from him. But that cheater hunter simply refused to do it as he know very well himself that he is in the wrong for not paying for it. And he wont wan to admit his mistake here. If he can check it and get it solve I will request to close the thread when the issue is settled.
These days without warranty seals is very difficult to get replacements/repairs , if there is only one seal of seller then he may can handle the situation but if their is main distributer seals also and its torned then the situation is not easy to handle.
BR.
From your first sentence I believe everyone here is an engineer as everyone uses a screw driver to check for small fault and remove a screw b4 for watever reason :D
IMO if the card is sold by you then you exchange it. I believe you written down the serial number of it b4 u sold it right.
Oh now hes an engineer of unlock boxes from newbie and he doesn't care any warranty seals.
Are you here for only write and not read? i see u also changed my sentence in quote, i will suggest u to read my post again, the infinity card is replaced by a cruiser card and this is working in cruiser software & you want me to exchange it? what a reply ...
BR.
Oh sorry I am busy just now just look at it quickly I dun quite understand your english bro sorry about it. If the card like i said is not from you then dun change it :)
Nothing to say.............only one words : Mr GFI just want to strike otherbody's business in some way, and want to improve his repute here.
But i think this is obviously unsuccessful !! However, i wish there is a way to solve this coz this is really a non-exist problem.
Hope all buyers and sellers can improve together and make the business like real business !!
Br
Nah my main aim is to get the card exchange as its not the fault of mine when the seller did not pay for his box n get blocked. Hey Hunter solve my problem like a real businessman bro not paying taichi here n push the problem. Cant you even afford to pay your supplier n exchange me a card??
hunterlink
09-27-2007, 18:42
Nah my main aim is to get the card exchange as its not the fault of mine when the seller did not pay for his box n get blocked. Hey Hunter solve my problem like a real businessman bro not paying taichi here n push the problem. Cant you even afford to pay your supplier n exchange me a card??
@ GFI
Firstly, i think u or u customer put others blocked card into opened box. then ask for warranty, only idiot can do it.
FYI for members here
We buy each time 100-300 pcs se tool card or se tool3 box from different big distributors. we pay all money for all bistributors before we get goods,
or in cash, never meet any problem for any payment with distributors.
so card we sell not possible can be blocked.
Best regards
Hunter
hunterlink
09-27-2007, 21:56
I recorded the SN of the box before selling unlike you con man. Well you did not pay for your card that why the author blocked it then push the blame to me. Hey even idiot know that opening the box wont make the card blocked. Never mind its my fault to buy from a suc_ker like you. Open your eyes Everyone who is smart can see very well that you keep on refusing to say that the card is from you simply when its faulty. Dun keep on using the same excuse oh you open the box blah blah blah. Blocked card issnt related to this ***-hole hunter.
Just ask for opinion fro everyone:
If you bought a setool n pay the seller and the seller if not pay to the author and end up the card is block then who fault do you think it is?
GSM-Sources are cheaters............. Be a man and admit your mistake if you are still a "MAN"
PS: Laser Laser say something why is that card blocked and who is the buyer for that card?
@GIF(Kenji big cheater from www.goldfly2002.com, don't shame of yourself again)
1.U read sn of box before sell u customer, that mean u already test box, that mean my box working one, why after about two month later u say box need unlock??why u open box since box working with 6 warranty stickers???
But the card u return me, can't read sn.
it is same card???
2. We buy se tool card or se tool 3 box in big quantity, one times 100-300
pcs, no any payment problem with any sellers, how the card we sell can be blocked, why other customer not complain for unlocking if have problem for payment????
3. man, i think u even don't know what is unlock box warranty condition,
better don't sell box, buy one box only get so much problem. shame u company name. shame u repute.
4. cus u breaken warranty condition, we can do nothing for it.
best regards
hunter
hunterlink
09-27-2007, 22:11
Oh sorry I am busy just now just look at it quickly I dun quite understand your english bro sorry about it. If the card like i said is not from you then dun change it :)
@ GFI kenji
If u english not good, please don't bla bla more, others ppl also can't understand u more, if u can't understand what others say, please read more carefully, other ppls don't push u to learn it.:confused:
hunterlink
09-27-2007, 23:03
Seem that I am not the only 1 who got problem with GSM-Sources lol.. Anyone else got cheated by him??
http://www.************.com/forum/showthread.php?p=282366#post282366
gsm source is bad resseller i have many probleme with him MR lazer it is not good for your product you must contact gsm source to give a resolution to this probleme
you are very nice moderator and setool is our prefer box and we dont like this bad news good luck and you can contact me perhaps i can solve your probleme
@ GFI(KENJI big cheater)
He lie all members here again,
I don't have any problem with him(only do one more time business, buy just 1 or 2 se tool, he ask price from me for long times ago, delay to do business for long times, just cus not agree payment term(pay first, he want me send goods first, he live in china), it is him make me so much problem.
He really big cheater in gsm forum!!!!
let kick him out from it.
he give a link not existed to cheate all members here.
Maybe this link is make by him, or other customer say he is cheater,
so he not let others members know it, so use ******* instead.
very childish actions again!!!
best regards
I ask in the setool forum why is that so mr laser reply its most properly that the supplier did not pay up that why its blocked or very minor chances that the customer are hacking the setool which sound quite impossible as my customer dun even know how to use it as they ask me alot of question about it.
Well, playing with MSTool-PSTool activation codes (which means running the application and entering the wrong code) could block the card, maybe your customer didn't know that those add-ons need a separate activation
Hello Cheater Hunter, have u verfied with Mr Laser or Mr Unlocker that the card issnt belong to you or your Supplier. Can you pls show us some evidence from them saying its not related to you. Dun open mouth say oh it dun belong to me then story end if you are so like this in your customer service then I think you should be the 1 out of this game. I am quite sure non of the customers here like suc_kers like you here. Cant even show any proof about the card then shout and scold your customer here in the forum like a mad dog.
Hey Pls read it with your eyes open:
I launch the program b4 sending it out and write down the serial number and customer use it for the first time then its blocked. Like I requested many times here to send it back to the author to check why is it blocked why dont you dare to do it?
Thank Mr Luzer for your kind reply. But I dont think so that they did that to trigger the block. I only gave him the program for the Setool and the manual only. He dont even know wats the homepage for it lol. So its almost impossible for him to do the activation for other module to trigger that block.
@ GFI(KENJI big cheater)
He lie all members here again,
I don't have any problem with him(only do one more time business, buy just 1 or 2 se tool, he ask price from me for long times ago, delay to do business for long times, just cus not agree payment term(pay first, he want me send goods first, he live in china), it is him make me so much problem.
He really big cheater in gsm forum!!!!
let kick him out from it.
he give a link not existed to cheate all members here.
Maybe this link is make by him, or other customer say he is cheater,
so he not let others members know it, so use ******* instead.
very childish actions again!!!
best regards
Hey china man your english is either bad or you are stupid. That link is the official setool forum you can go there n check it yourself lame man. Those who know setool forum can go there n check it out. U cheated another customer and he complain and expose it inside dun shift the blame to me when other people are speaking about the truth.
http://w w w.m o b i l e - f i l e s. c o m/forum/showthread.php?t=53386
Hey I ask u for the price I paid to you on the spot via bank transfer then ask u to deliver dun lie to others with your eyes open. Dunno who is the childish lame china man here who think that his lame words can cheat the smart people here.
If you got no money or power to exchange for the card send me back with the tracking number to show others that you did send. I got my tracking number for the delivery company SF Express and the receipt so dont even think of lieing to others that I did not send you or watever. Let see wat lame stories can you compose this time....
Hey Cheater Hunter I saw your post in the link which you say its fake if its fake then how come the thread is thead?? Can explain haha...
Its your other customer who bought from you expose you to the public why dont you dare to admit? Why lie to others here saying the link is fake and shift the blame to me again?
Be a man and admit your mistake bro. Even a sissy is better than you. Let everyone see how you do your business in the unlocking trade.
dannyogolo
09-28-2007, 09:45
This should be very simple
I dont know these 2 guys but seems GFI is asking very simple questions, but people are beating around the bush.
This Hunter guy should simply check the card serial to see if its his own.
If he "claims" he doesnt have it, he should contact his own supplier to see if the card serial was from the batch he supplied.
If also his supplier doesnt have, he should contact his own supplier too.
Somehow, 1 person along the supply chain has not paid for the card.
Opening box or not should not be made the issue.
This man is after the card, not the box.
Just follow the Card supply chain and see who did not pay.
SIMPLE (or maybe difficult, but its not the buyers fault)
Sometimes I used to open my boxes to clean the cards in them if i sence any kind of error (and most times it works), so a newbie can always open his new box out of impatience to try to help himself thinking he can solve it
@Honey,
I agree this person is a newbie.
For him to be buying setool by this time, shows he is a newbie. All good engineers already have setool
pinoy_gsm
09-28-2007, 10:26
@dannygogolo
You missed to read this:
In fact, the card u send to me can't read sn, how to check this card from which reseller??? u lie to everybody here. i don't know where u get this card.
For this card u said have sn xxxxx, also ask me to unlock, i really
can't understand it, one of my reseller ask u read logs of this card
u not response, u say u already give me sn of card.
where u get this sn of this card???
best regards,
hunter
He cannot identify the card, nor read it.
If the warranty stickers is not altered or broken, then it may not be hard to just replace the whole box without bothering the card inside. This is the main problem.
All is about the warranty sticker tampering which voids the warranty.
dannyogolo
09-28-2007, 13:54
well,
Truelly i missed that
But also i remember reading that before he sent the box back to supplier, he had serial number with him which he sent for supplier Hunter to give him unlock code for the card.
What Hunter wants to do now with the serial number (or Log) he could as well have done when it was READABLE and was sent to him online.
I seem to believe that GFI was contacting him online, but he did not try to solve the problem online (believing simply on getting the box in order to check the seal).
I doubt if there is any serious gsm tech with a box without broken seal (we all open the boxes for 1 reason or the other).
Now MAYBE for one reason or the other, card is bad (BTW, this is what Hunter is saying now that he has the box and card, who knows ???) !!!!!!.
But if Hunter had given him unlock code online, then I wount be suspicious.
The simple Q is:
Why was hunter not forthcoming with unlocking the card online ???
His customer was able to read serial number in d 1st place, its a lot easier that way than subjecting him to sending back the box (with the expenses involved)
My final Question ???
What does Hunter want to do with the card serial number now that he could not have done before when it was sent to him online????
Suddenly, has he discovered a way to check if the card was from him ???
Common sense plsssssssss
dannyogolo
09-28-2007, 14:02
All is about the warranty sticker tampering which voids the warranty.
The sticker should primarily be for the box.
I know some dealers sell only software cards alone (without stickers)
In anything card (even sim cards) I think they are identified by serial number, not stickers.
Gsm-source Is Trustable 100%
hunterlink
09-28-2007, 17:28
Its your other customer who bought from you expose you to the public why dont you dare to admit?
Be a man and admit your mistake bro. Even a sissy is better than you. Let everyone see how you do your business in the unlocking trade.
@GFI
Why call u cheater, cus u make same topic in another forum use another name(everybody can identify u cus the shame with your heart), then u blame our team that other customer also have problwm with us, u think all us as idiot??? in fact everybody know u clearly.
Why call u cheater, cus u even don't know why card blocked, then blame us
we not pay author or distributor's money.
Why call u cheater, cus u open box to repair box even don't know how to use it.
Why call u cheater, cus u want catch my customer by blaming us, just want rise u repute, use u owe tricks to ask my customer show my offer. if u can't live to make money, rich ppl here can give a dog a meat.
Why call u cheater, cus u put blocked card into opened box,then ask for warranty.
why call u cheater, cus u use many excuse to blame others, cus u use open box,this foolish actions to end warranty without ask permission from anybody.
why call u cheater, cus u not repect the suppot and works from author, supporter, maker for box. just want open box to show u how skillful than them, also want get support from reseller or by blaming others in forum to push others ppl to give warranty. due to u foolish step cause no one can help u.
In fact i can sell more box than before cus we respect support and works from box author, box supporter, and box maker. not like us, want shame all them.
be human please admit u foolish and childish mistaken!!!!!!
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so much want to say..........
Best regards,
Hunter
[quote=hunterlink;2751567]@GFI
Why call u cheater, cus u make same topic in another forum use another name(everybody can identify u cus the shame with your heart), then u blame our team that other customer also have problwm with us, u think all us as idiot??? in fact everybody know u clearly.
Ans:Its so obvious its me why cant I have diff name which is registered afew years ago? I dun think I know u then at tat time bro. Use your common sense bro if you dunwan others to think u are simply stupid.
Why call u cheater, cus u even don't know why card blocked, then blame us
we not pay author or distributor's money.
Ans: Then can I ask u the same question why you dont even know it yourself then how do you know if your supplier did not paid up?
Why call u cheater, cus u open box to repair box even don't know how to use it.
Ans: I dunno to call u stupid or what I said again n again its not me who open it.
Why call u cheater, cus u want catch my customer by blaming us, just want rise u repute, use u owe tricks to ask my customer show my offer. if u can't live to make money, rich ppl here can give a dog a meat.
Ans: My main business if not only unlocking tools its only a small part of it. I believe I earn more than you :)
Why call u cheater, cus u put blocked card into opened box,then ask for warranty.
Ans: Since you dont even know the serial number of your card then how do you know its not yours?? Then keep on pushing the blame to me. Its so obvious that you are creating an issue to show others u are the innocent party. Stop being stupid others can see you clearly bro.
why call u cheater, cus u use many excuse to blame others, cus u use open box,this foolish actions to end warranty without ask permission from anybody.
Ans: Who is the 1 creating false scene I believe I no need to explain others can also read from yours words hehe..
why call u cheater, cus u not repect the suppot and works from author, supporter, maker for box. just want open box to show u how skillful than them, also want get support from reseller or by blaming others in forum to push others ppl to give warranty. due to u foolish step cause no one can help u.
Ans: Since when I said I am the 1 opening and when did I claim I am better than them. Stop creating n putting false words in my mouth. Who is right and wrong people got their own eyes n see. No need for a script writer like you. If you think your script is so well that it can bluff all others why not go n write some movie script? Its better than selling boxes in your small toilet like shop.
In fact i can sell more box than before cus we respect support and works from box author, box supporter, and box maker. not like us, want shame all them.
Ans: I never say u cant sell boxes lol. If you "Claim" you can sell so well n have good relationship why cant you just check with them the owner of the card whom they sold it to and why is it block? Why is that so hard? Is it becos the relationship between you and those authors are ......... lol. So all you can is talk n talk n they dun bother about u :P
be human please admit u foolish and childish mistaken!!!!!!
Ans: You are the worst n most stupid box resellers I had ever seen. I believe everyone can see why he keep on pushing the blame to me for the card which is blocked by the author. Even others know the box n card is of 2 diff warranty. If you dun have the capability to communicate with the author of the card then it goes tat you are incapable of doing after sales for box. Advise u better go and communicate and make friend with them if not I think u better go back to your homeland n plough the land... That 1 no need after sales service hahaha
Regards
GFI Team
The sticker should primarily be for the box.
I know some dealers sell only software cards alone (without stickers)
In anything card (even sim cards) I think they are identified by serial number, not stickers.
Thank Sir, I am very happy that you can see from my point of view that this guy is trying to push the blame on me simply becos he doesnt want to fork out the money to exchange for the card as his communication n relationship with his suppliers and the card author issnt good so they dun bother about him I think.. :D So how big do you think he is if others dun bother about him???
Anyway thank again for your brave help in the posting :)
Regards
GFI Team
Anyway I think it enough for the posting here everything. Whatever I need to say is very clear. Let others see and decide for themselves who is right and wrong. Thank everyone for viewing.
Regards
GFI Team