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http://www.info-mob.com//slike/sadrzaj/3650jsp_m.jpg
Today at the local Nokia's press conference where they introduced 6610,
3510i and 3650 I had the opportunity to talk to one guy from finland who
made all answers to my questions about Field Test (Net monitor) in newer
phones (DCT4 and beyond)
From DCT4 generation to future Net monitor will be available ONLY in the
phones that are set in factory to have such feature, it's not a software
thing anymore. Phones with Net monitor enabled can be ordered at local Nokia
deraler if you are a network engeener (or, as like me - press :-) It will
not be able to eneble it with any newer version of WinPhoenix or any other
service software, it can be done ONLY in the factory.
The reason - the network providers made complaints to Nokia on easy Net
monitor enabling so users could easyly measure signal strenght and other
service features and made a lot of complaints about the "real service" :-)
So, I guess tat is the end of story of Nokias and Field test for ordinairy
people...If you have someone working in an ditributive center or Nokia
dealer you can order it for youself, NO ENABLING BY END-USERS WILL NOT BE
AVAILABLE, as far as Nokia is concerned (I hava an offer at the dealer to
order mine with Net mon)
Also, I got to play with 6610 and with 3650. They also had one 3510 that was
supposed to fool people they have 3510i, it was turned of all the time but
you could see the display is green (monochrome)
And - tadaaaaa - 3650 had Test (Field Test) Bug icon - Net monitor installed
and I'm giving you an exclusive picture of the screen
Also, I'm giving SW versions shots of both 6610 and 3650
Few words about the monitor - It is lot more user friendly and had full
names and long sentence descrpitions
http://www.info-mob.com//slike/sadrzaj/3650sw.jpg
http://www.info-mob.com//slike/sadrzaj/6610sw.jpg
:cool:
maybe it wont be a click of the button, but transplanting the netmonitor (from theeprom i believe) from one phone to another should be possible :)
Hi,
thanx for info!
But thats a pity,cos I looked forward to NetMonitor activator by jsp_m :) :D :)
regards
[MoOkIe]
09-13-2002, 17:44
Very nice info.
Thanks Mate. :)
oh, and since I'm able to order such phone (wth net mon), if any of you ever comes across croatia.....:cool:
IMHO they didn't implement subprograms in the flash for showing net monitor on the screen or is coded in e2p like checksums for IMEI & simlock. Second possibility is most likely. So there will a hard way to go to view netmonitor in nowadays.
german gsm team
09-17-2002, 20:26
To ensure that there is really a special firmware version just flash a field test display enabled phone with a new firmware version in a normal service center. When field test display is gone, you are probably right, if field test display is still there, there is either a special firmware add-on or just a eeprom value in the phone or the service center phoenix could the detect original field test display enabled phone before flashing.
Against a firmware add-on there is the following argument: Field test display could be quite old, but normal firmware could be much newer and this could cause either conflicts or nokia is restricted in the development of newer firmware. Do you really guess, that a network operator would like to send all its field test display phones back to factory every time a new firmware is available?
Nobody can read out a dct-4 flash this time, and of course nokia says that there is a special firmware, but this has nothing to say.
They tell this to us even during DCT-3 generation until PC-Locals find its way out of R&D department. I guess that there is just a secret m-bus command to activate field test display and this activation software remains in nokia R&D or the command is available only in the R&D version of phoenix (why service centers only have access to the 3.76.002 version, there should be a 3.76.001 version, too)
When you just look to the flash service package for 3510 NHM-8 version 3.34 you will find a file named ftd.set and the following content [FTD_Activation #CD524680-C794-11d5-AD11-009027A2E3DE]
00
and there is a 0508270.ini file with the following content [ProductInfo]
ProductType=NHM-8
PpmId=C
Description=FTD
RestoreDefaultRestore=1
UseDefaultProductProfile=Yes
[Settings]
Setting1 = FTD
Setting2 = FileManager - All files
[NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN]
File = C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\NHM-8\ftd.set
[NMP.Cmn.FileManagerFN]
FileManagerSettingsFile=C:\Program Files\Nokia\Phoenix\Products\nhm-8\europe.fms
And in NHM-7 8310 V 05.06 package you can find the following files:
ftd.sav: [NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN]
File=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\products\NHM-7\ftd.ui
and 0507295.ini : [ProductInfo]
ProductType=NHM-7
PpmId=c
Description=Euro-C Operator FTD
RestoreDefaultRestore=1
UseDefaultProductProfile=Yes
[Settings]
Setting1 = Product Profile
Setting2 = WAP Bookmarks
Setting3 = UI settings
[NMP.Cmn.ProductProfileFN]
ProductProfileFile=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\Prod
ucts\NHM-7\euro.pp
[NMP.Cmn.WapSettingsAndBookmarksFN]
WapBookmarksFile=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\Produc
ts\NHM-7\nokia_eu.wb2
; This is just to confirm that menu is visible.
; Does not actually activate FTD.
[NMP.Cmn.UserSettingsRWFN]
File=D:\Programme\Nokia\Phoenix\products\NHM-7\ftd.ui
[Modes]
Default=Test
Timeout=5000
; This is just to confirm that menu is visible.
; Does not actually activate FTD.
How I guess, special m-bus command in factory, but phone flashable with normal firmware package in normal service centers or how I said special firmware add-on but I don't guess that.
thx 4 the info german team, I will try to sniff for some more specific details regarding this question
watch this space soon 4 results ......;)
Hey Josip
Have you "sniffed" some more specific details because we wait here for over 6 months :D :D :D
Spalato
P.S.: I couldn't resist to dig this post out of the dust :D
Another side of mistery:
... one solved
Finally I have it, Field test for 6310i:
Here are some photo from 2 phones 6310i with netmonitor inside, I just programmed:
elronchi
02-18-2004, 22:55
how did you mange to do so? :confused:
It is an special firmware with netmonitor inside.
Uvedovle
02-19-2004, 00:39
Or maybe with netmonitor activated :D
Nicholson
02-19-2004, 13:46
I need this special firmware with netmonitor inside.
Guciano, can You help me?
after I run some tests I can confirm this:
Saving full PM data from 6310 and 6310i with netmonit and prog in another phones, same ver, will not enable netmonit.
p.s.
in short time I will have access to other phone models special firmware with netmonit inside, until now is 6310 and 6310i latest ver.
how did you copy all flash memory chip ? dct4 flasher don't have flash read options ...
you dehot/hot memory chip and read/write all flash in chip prog device ?
send you flash memory dump :)
did you tryed compare memory dump from standart and NM phones (with same flash ver) ?
it is special firmware, original pack... not an copy from flash chip.
to many diff betwen original and special firmware...
Can you send me this firmware or URL for downloading ?
Ok today something realy HOT:
Nokia 7600 3G phone UMTS/GSM with netmonitor firmware:
more models soon...
to be continued soon... other models !
Beautifull photos ... but we would prefer to see NM enabled on our own phone. :rolleyes:
another models 3510, 3510i, 6500, 6800...
more Netmonitor models here soon:
http://www.phones-direct.ro/uk_netmon.htm
and 3200 Netmonitor, funny you can't get help on netmonitor screen by pressing * because the flash light will turn ON/OFF and replace help activating :)
You should post in sale section.
XXBATMANXX
05-08-2004, 22:59
send me the activator the net monitor for 3200 pleasee
my email is: AUDI_A31@HOTMAIL.COM
today Netmonitor on 8910 & 6100 & 6230
more pic here:
http://www.phones-direct.ro/uk_netmon.htm
Any chance for a 3650?? 10x
cavite_devil
05-30-2004, 16:50
where can i get the flash file for net monitor it is free or with pay
Don' t waste your time with Guciano.
....
:(
yes; finally you understand:
Free Begers don't waste my time asking for free netmon firmware... you have nerve for this.
If I remember corectly not even one Free Beger helped me in the past...
boulogne
06-01-2004, 11:26
Here isn' t sale section, just post in the right one, and don' t make other members waste their time.
Here isn' t sale section, just post in the right one, and don' t make other members waste their time.
Grow up "junior" don't be jealous;
where do you see here any sale offer, if it was sales be sure admin, or me will deleted long time ago, ( by the way I wanted to delete that link some time ago, but some admin disabled my option to edit post old than 48h...)
If you checked that link for more photo it is ok ( you shoud say thanks at least ) if you wanted to buy ( I don't think it is you'r case ) it is another question and is not related to this web. Don't mix things.
and at the end:
I do not see what good experience did you shared with memebers here regarding Netmonitor/Field Test in this topic, so next time think twice before post off topic and force me to do the same.
boulogne
06-02-2004, 23:43
I' ve nothing to prove you.
If you need to sell something, move in sale section.
If you want to write about net monitor so go on.
erik-ein
06-17-2004, 15:23
One thing I do not understand is that on my 6230 with 9 standard submenus + 1 SIM ToolKit-menu from my service provider. If I for instance press menu+6 the menu "Media" is activated. If I press menu+11 I recieve the message "Shortcut ot available" but menu+12 and upwards shows the message "Invalid shortcut". So some way or another, ALL Nokia phones have the possibility for one more menu - NetMonitor?
ive sometimes flashed phones incorrectly and seen this netmonitor stuff come up on the screen but didnt realise what is was until now, so there must be a function in nokias as sugested. there must be a way to activate it, probaly a *#???????# code.. any one know it ?
Hello!
Please help me, if you can!
I have a 3100 and a wanna net monitor.
If you have the flash, please write.
thank you
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norsk@jippii.fi
How To Active Net Monitor On Nokia6600??
Thank You!!
PTRNP@HOTMAIL.COM
Gizmo1975
01-31-2005, 18:18
can i have netmonitor on a nokia 6610??? How???
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Steamroller
06-14-2005, 18:18
If you search deeper you'll find that "Luciano" have or had those phones with NetMonitor installed(activated) for sale on his site and he is just showing them to us.
I don't understand WHY if he won't help us get Firware for dct4 with netmonitor or tell us how to get such SW for our dct4 phone.
Why so much NOISE about this from Luciano if no HELP ? ? ?
sektor_1
06-17-2005, 11:37
What about the nokia 9500? Can netmonitor be activated on this model?