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m.com
09-28-2002, 12:46
REPAIR SOLUTION for Dead Panasonic GD35-75-92-93-95 :

solution for phone with BGA or no BGA chip

you need :

- 1 dead phone and 1 worked phone
- hot air station and soldering station
- PC with cable
- software use WinMoDo wirh language pack

Steps :

- connect good phone with cable to PC
- starting upload language
- when you see 20-30 % writing - disconnect cable from phone
- in display you see Writing and phone frezee
- phone in FLASHING MODE
- reboot PC
- desolder from bad phone flash chip
- desolder from good phone flash chip
- YOU NEED DESOLDERING FLASH CHIP FROM WORKED,
POWERED AND FREEZED in flash mode PHONE !!!!!!!!
CAREFULY !!!!!!!!!!!!!
- SOLDERING BAD CHIP in good phone (phone still avaible in flash mode)
- connect phone with cable to computer
- run program (for GD35 you need start Skeptik and full flashing), for another phone use Winmodo with option writing BOOT, MAIN and LP flash

ENJOY

P.S. tested and approved by m.com - GD35, 92, 93, 95

ATTENTION!!!
AUTOR TAKES NO RESPONCIBILITY FOR DAMAGED PHONES!
ATTENTION!!!

my expirements - 6 bad flash chip - only way re-programming on LabTool-148C or LabTool-48 but i repaired over 50 phones.

te
09-28-2002, 14:01
Good solution, but I can't understand one thing. In Panasonic phones there are SRAM and FLASH in the same chip...

m.com
09-28-2002, 15:42
when you killed phone - software - you have bad boot and phone no connecting with PC.

when you soldering good flash chip - phone no power up, but have good boot and connecting with PC.

SRAM don't use when phone flashing.

Danchik
09-28-2002, 16:54
good solution man ! :)

Sher
09-28-2002, 18:09
hi ,

i did not understand the following lines !!!

- YOU NEED DESOLDERING FLASH CHIP FROM WORKED,
POWERED AND FREEZED in flash mode PHONE !!!!!!!!
CAREFULY !!!!!!!!!!!!!

please explain again....thanx !!!!

Best Regards

Bogi
09-28-2002, 22:39
Hi,Sher.He says,that desoldering of good and soldering of bad flash chip on the freezed in flash mode phone CAN DAMAGE your worked phone,if you are not very carefull.Phone is powered on during this operations (freezed in flash mode).

sayhu
09-28-2002, 23:26
I can't understand that who could reply.It's only bad joke.

te
09-28-2002, 23:58
Originally posted by m.com
when you killed phone - software - you have bad boot and phone no connecting with PC.

when you soldering good flash chip - phone no power up, but have good boot and connecting with PC.

SRAM don't use when phone flashing.

Of course, phone can work without RAM, ROM, and maybe without any other spare parts. I think CPU also not so important for phone flashing.
I think we can start new topic about non-usefull phone spare parts.

nnarta
09-29-2002, 00:40
This is working soluyion for 92 exactly!
I have never tried it for other phones...
I always thank, that RAM in 93 is in the flash chip, that's why after desoldering I will have 2 bad phones.
Or while flashing phone uses RAM inside CPU?

m.com
09-29-2002, 08:43
sorry friends for my english. :-)))

for about Panasonic GD93 - i tested.

but many people have problem with this solution :

- you need have powered phone
- soldering (very good) wire from battery to phone all 3 pin
- you need quickly soldering / desoldering chip, becose i have 93 and 95 panasonic - phone powered off when i soldering bad chip in freezed phone

why ? i don't know - may be program have timeout - powered off after 2-3 minute, but i have many phone and time desoldering 5-10-15 minute - and NO PROBLEM.

in monday i test this solution with Panasonic 75 and 95.

95 have no BGA chip - Mitsubishi M6321S4TP

BufferMess
09-29-2002, 09:17
Hi people

Well, I understood the idea behind the solution. I have one question. You should remove battery from the phone for taking out PCB & desoldering flash chip. How are you going to achive this without losing "Flash Mode"?

Best Regards
Sean

nnarta
09-29-2002, 10:39
Max, 1 time Panas was in "flash" mode all the night.
I'm not using the soldering iron, hot air station with a small nozzle is better.
How do you carefully desolder the flash with soldering iron?

Sher
09-29-2002, 10:56
@ Bogi....Thanx for the explanation

@ BufferMess .... i agree with you ,
to desolder the chip you have to remove battery ..and when you remove battery u loose the flash mode

hows it possible to retain flash mode after removing the battey

nnarta
09-29-2002, 11:01
Maybe wires can help you???
I think it is a good solution: a little wire from one contact to another... from battery to pcb.

Chuk
09-29-2002, 12:21
Good solution for **********. good phone.... :p

Trier
09-29-2002, 14:07
Good solution for GOOD PATCHED HANDS, not for "freebeggers" hands.

Guys charging 3$ for unlock and "repair" sw problems in phones stealing professionals customers and killing market FORGET ABOUT THIS or you'll have to sell the notebook you use to go over the shops and **** the prices to BUY NEW PHONES to your ready stolen customers.

Zanzamar
09-30-2002, 00:41
Good words - my respect

katona
11-20-2002, 16:28
Solution is 100% working!!!
I test it myself.
Problem is in soldering of working!!! phone .
Two plates must be conected!!!
No need to restart comp. It is enouph to stop flashig with Winmodo and start it again with boot option.
Tested on 2 GD92 by myself.

m.com
11-20-2002, 16:55
use GANG mode - no need stop flashing.

uu1dx
11-21-2002, 09:57
2 CHUK - it works :-)
just test it ;)

2 all - I need flash for Chinese GD93 (any langpack). Need help!

m.com
11-21-2002, 11:12
contact me.

uu1dx
11-21-2002, 11:29
Doing this now :-)))))))
phone become dead after reflashing with f@@@g Ghost 3D GD93 SW

Chuk
11-21-2002, 11:40
Originally posted by uu1dx
2 CHUK - it works :-)
just test it ;)

2 all - I need flash for Chinese GD93 (any langpack). Need help!

I'm not kill new Panasonic phones yet. I've flashed it many times and don't have any problem. My opinion - this solution can kill working phone forever. (Remove flash from poweded phone......) May be You good unlocker and repairer, but not so strong in semiconductor electronic. May be it's work, but You have a biiiiiiiig risk to F U C K phone (temperatures 250 - 350 dangerous for powered phone).

WBR

Chuk
11-21-2002, 11:55
Originally posted by Trier
Good solution for GOOD PATCHED HANDS, not for "freebeggers" hands.


And bad patched brains, no matter freebegger or not freebegger.

eidamo
11-21-2002, 14:22
One small working solution :)

Find some old Nokia 5110 (for standard flash chip) or
some old Nokia 3310 (3330,6210 for BGA chips) with bad RX or TX part and make :) universal "Flash programing device":) ..........


You can flash these flash chips (INTEL, ATMEL) with small dejan flasher without any problem....and..... without
:confused: DESOLDERING FLASH CHIP FROM WORKED PHONE :confused:
Desolder FLASH chip from DEAD panasonic phone and solder chip to :)NOKIA universal Flash programing device:) and flash it with any BIN file.......and.......... :D

m.com
11-21-2002, 14:33
he-he-he.

eidamo - test it, and post result. ok ?


you see type flash chip in Panasonic 93 and 3310 ?

Chuk
11-21-2002, 15:30
Originally posted by eidamo
One small working solution :)

I think, that You never see GD93 inside........

The best solution is UP48A programmer

http://www.up48.com/english/picadapter.htm

m.com
11-21-2002, 15:50
sorry Chuk - flash have zone with security info, when don't erase and write when you repain in my solution.


when you read and flash in LabTool - you don't repair phone.

P.S. worked flash chip replace in phone with bad boot in flash - phone don't power up.

Chuk
11-21-2002, 15:52
@ m.com

Look at Your site: quality and fast repair.

Sorry, but it's not quality solution. You must to know it. ;) :p

Chuk
11-21-2002, 16:04
Originally posted by m.com
sorry Chuk - flash have zone with security info, when don't erase and write when you repain in my solution.


when you read and flash in LabTool - you don't repair phone.

P.S. worked flash chip replace in phone with bad boot in flash - phone don't power up.

Why You think, that programmer can't to flash chip like phone flash it? May be have reason to write boot only? ;)

P.S. But can be flashed.

m.com
11-21-2002, 16:19
this no quality, quickly and very easy solution, but why have another solution ???

krtko
11-21-2002, 16:59
Hello,

i have sucesfull used flash chip from another GD52 to dead one, reflashed phone and works :) without any problem.

BR

krtko

Chuk
11-21-2002, 17:03
To Maxim (M.COM):

Agree with You.:)

I don't want to say, that Your solution is fake, I want to say other members, that with that solution they can get 2 dead phones. Don't forget, that not all members are professionals, like You ;)

About other solution: try to flash boot only with LabTool

katona
11-21-2002, 17:05
I don`t understand what about this discussion?
Look at forum: how many solution you`l see to repair dead Panasonic with destroied boot?
Parallel flashing dont work.
You can buy Lab Tool for 1-10 dead phones + adapter?
But this solution - work!!!

Chuk
11-21-2002, 17:07
Originally posted by krtko
Hello,

i have sucesfull used flash chip from another GD52 to dead one, reflashed phone and works :) without any problem.

BR

krtko


Real words, real work.

Chuk
11-21-2002, 17:24
Originally posted by katona
I don`t understand what about this discussion?
Look at forum: how many solution you`l see to repair dead Panasonic with destroied boot?
Parallel flashing dont work.
You can buy Lab Tool for 1-10 dead phones + adapter?
But this solution - work!!!


1.Ofcourse, parallel flashing physically can't work. It's brain absend.

2. Trust me, LabTool is very very usefull thing. You'll find work for it always.

3.I try to say You, that if You don't want buy somethig good one time - You'll have more, than 1-10 dead phones in future and You'll wait another solution like that.

PS: Do You try to replace PA, BGA or another components form working, powered phone? Try - it works.

m.com
11-21-2002, 19:09
yes LabTool is very good, but i don't hear any people who repair Panasonic with LabTool.

OrbiTel
11-21-2002, 20:09
Rate m.com )))

Uvedovle
11-21-2002, 21:22
I have read all the posts and i think you all are profesionals, with some year of experience.

I know you use profesional tools, but i heard about to build a double cable for plug two phones at the sametime (one working and the other one not working) and flah it with winmodo.

What do you think about this...? Should it work?:confused:

Best regards :D :D

m.com
11-21-2002, 21:35
it's fake for easy man from stupid GSM Xakers. :-))

Uvedovle
11-21-2002, 21:44
:(

Burnt Cobba
11-21-2002, 23:20
can this solution be applied on GD90? anyone tried?

M.com thanks for sharing with us

*** bless you all
al

m.com
11-22-2002, 09:34
GD90 - don't TOTAL dead. if no power up - you need program for enter to FLASH mode (green lamp lighting) and flasher (i use DOS flasher).

m.com
11-22-2002, 09:57
for tested

i don't repair Panasonic GD95 witn bad boot.

when i desolder - solder flash - phone power off.

why ?

may be phone have time out - power off without sim after 1-2-3 minute ???

kosmonaft
11-28-2002, 19:46
Hi m.com. I must say, that feel creative, Ukraine method of approach - your solutions is worked!
I too have bad GD95 and maybe I can answer to your q. (GD95)
if you give me flash fl. and winmod 3.09....

m.com
11-28-2002, 19:51
contact private

Porter
01-09-2003, 05:39
1 Sombody tel me fleshind desoldered gd93flesh(bed boot) on Erocsson phone whis same memory chip
2 Anybody knou about booting bedboot GD35 by use charger??
Last solution work 1000? but i haven`t test it. Enybody knou more ???

HFP
01-09-2003, 14:04
Try to learn English first-)

kosmonaft
01-09-2003, 19:27
And what about dead GD90 (no green led) somebody tried?

Mitya
01-27-2003, 13:18
And what finally??? Is solution to repair with Labtools'48 really works??? becauz I have no second phone for use solution by m.com...:rolleyes:

m.com
01-27-2003, 13:24
GD90 - no kill after bad flashing !!!!!!!!!!!

easy way to repair.

ringo
01-28-2003, 12:49
yes for gd90 u don't need to make nothing inside the phone..
@m.com: did u revive gd92? where is located flash chip on this phone?
b.r.

Mitya
01-28-2003, 21:04
can anybody send me repair flash for GD93 in *.bin format??? for exchange i'll send you fll repair flash for motorola T191...if you interesting contact with me plz.
Mit-Ya@mail.ru
ICQ: 160381721

UHK
01-30-2003, 12:34
contact me by email
i will help you to flash GD93 dead +flash file

jerry77
01-30-2003, 17:02
@usman

Can you give us your solution for GD93?

uu1dx
02-04-2003, 17:03
@usman
I really need your help if it is true - 2 dead GD93's here
how to contact U?

m.com
02-04-2003, 18:09
uudx - contact me.

i repair you GD93. no problem. and send you killed Ericsson 3618.

kenichi
02-04-2003, 19:30
one question. fist (good) flash was half-programmed. żDoes it Boots??

ADD-GSM
02-05-2003, 20:09
where can i locate the flash chip on my gd 35 and how 2 flash it :o

UHK
06-13-2003, 15:49
members

same old solution will work for you

u need 2 phones bad and working ***
desoldering chip from both
put working in bad 1
and
connect to computer
select language and upload
u can see flash loader disconnect cable
and desolder flash and put bad flash chip and upload full flash

u need wires to stable phone on flash mode

killed phone only need to bood up you phone

u can write boot loader from laptools also

regard
u* h *k

DKA
07-16-2003, 14:46
I have 1 dead GD93 (bad boot) & havn't work phone, have Lab Tool, but havn't adapter. Please, mail me scheme of adapter for check this solution. alex49@list.ru

Sun
07-16-2003, 19:33
go to www.google.com, type "scheme of adapter" and find :D

Own
07-16-2003, 20:44
Hi all

i have dead gd75 use ic dip [M6MGT321S4TP = 52 pin] i want scheme of adapter for it please tell me web link

regards
Own

and i want file dump by labtools 48
:D :D :D

DKA
07-16-2003, 21:31
google is my favourite find system, but try to find it :D

I have this problem too, gd93 used M6MGT321S4TP & how to flash it :confused: :confused: :confused: by labtools 48? anybody help me?

Own
07-16-2003, 22:18
.



as we said zillion times, no sales outside sales section...

Spalato

DKA
07-16-2003, 22:43
150$ ??? for 1 phone?

Own
07-16-2003, 23:12
.

forget sales...

Spalato

george gsm
11-04-2003, 18:28
hello friends,
i have up48 programmer but idon't have adapter for gd92 flash(84vd21cb). i need schema for this adapter. thanks in advance.
b.r.
geo.

hrco
11-06-2003, 01:35
I found adapter(one frend have it)....I need dump for gd95 anybody have it?

infogsm
11-06-2003, 11:25
hi m.com what is the way to repair a deas gd87?

-=SanSanyc=-
11-08-2003, 04:17
No way. only change part.

cellquery
11-08-2003, 20:01
Hie Anyone Have Solutionf For Dead GD55 that Dont Answer to winmodo ....

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Cellquery

wengming
11-11-2003, 03:18
I have gd92 gd93 gd 75 gd67 adaptor
but cann't solve the dead gd67,

patric
11-15-2003, 15:12
dead gd35 need help

--==Dixon==--
11-15-2003, 15:39
yes realy nice soltuion thx to maxim mcom

Johnybye
11-18-2003, 20:45
dead gd35 need help

Use solution from m.com It work - tested...

Siemens man
11-19-2003, 23:52
hi man
i'm need labtool-48 bin file for gd35
thank you for help
Originally posted by UHK
members

same old solution will work for you

u need 2 phones bad and working ***
desoldering chip from both
put working in bad 1
and
connect to computer
select language and upload
u can see flash loader disconnect cable
and desolder flash and put bad flash chip and upload full flash

u need wires to stable phone on flash mode

killed phone only need to bood up you phone

u can write boot loader from laptools also

regard
u* h *k

m.com
11-20-2003, 10:41
when you use labtool for repair GD35 - don't remember one moment - DON't erase all flash - eeprom area have data with ID and if you erase this or write from another phone - phone don't power up after

Siemens man
11-21-2003, 05:35
hi m.com
please read mail

m.com
11-21-2003, 06:28
sorry. but i don't see any mail from you.

wengming
11-22-2003, 14:33
Hi m.com
Can you tell me the gd35 eeprom area ,

Best regards,

m.com
11-24-2003, 11:45
send me full flash and i make eeprom area for you

!!!TaaTTalTi!!!
11-28-2003, 17:34
hi mcom for all users

repair my dead gd87 helpme pls!!!

m.com
12-01-2003, 14:50
explain problem please

infogsm
12-01-2003, 19:06
hi mcomm i got gd87 dead while flashing and now it won't boot any more can you repair it for me if i send it to you?

thanks

m.com
12-02-2003, 13:52
it's problem for send

big cost - 45+45 usd = 90 usd for send and back send
+ repair - maybe 30-40 usd

and i don't can say you what i repair for 100 % this phone

infogsm
12-02-2003, 16:38
thanks i will contact you privetly!

:::GsmFather:::
12-03-2003, 14:52
i have same question as bogi @m.com can you plz reply

beling
01-11-2004, 19:05
Can you tell me if this solution works with the gd67 phone ?
what is the reference of the chip ?

GSMassistance
01-11-2004, 22:22
This is the best solution i have never seen.....to kill both working and not working phone !!!!! :D :D :D

nobal1976
12-27-2004, 14:36
i have a gd 92 panasonic its restart when incoming a call i have flash and change pa but still same. plz help me

TURNING POINT
09-07-2005, 21:41
just change your flash ic from nother alive phone

Platijet
09-07-2005, 23:17
just change your flash ic from nother alive phone

after 9 months i don't think so.

TURNING POINT
09-08-2005, 22:07
after 9 months i don't think so.
sir i just read this post yesterday,this solution tested in three phone with such problem and replyed to help members who till now searching the solution.

Afzaal
09-08-2005, 22:43
Checking data, wait...
Device have to be SWITCHED OFF
Press Power button now...
TestMode Ok
Set Baud...
Set Baud Done
Parameters...
SW Version: GAX70A3131040219
FLASH-ID: 89000D88
Parameters Done
Check data...
STEP-01 in progress...
Check data Done
Check HW...
FLASH supported[89000D88]
1. REMOVE BATTERY NOW !
2. Install battery
3. Press "Ok" button
4. Power-On phone after instruction

Device have to be SWITCHED OFF
Press Power button now...
Check HW Done
Operation...
Working, don't interrupt...
Action-1 Ok
Action-2 Ok
Action-3/1...
SW Version: GAX70A3131040219
FLASH-ID: 89000D88
Action-3/2...
Err: write2: 00000000
Err: write2: 00000000
Action-3 Failed[]
Operation Failed
Finished

osya
09-23-2005, 22:58
What if X70 Dead after Unlocking Process
program for unlock ufo 0.5

CPUKILLER
09-23-2005, 23:09
sir i just read this post yesterday,this solution tested in three phone with such problem and replyed to help members who till now searching the solution.
simply do an unlock in (SKEPP-PANA)software thE whole eeprom will be reset to default and no restarting problem while incoming call doing this for the last 2 years --done many of them with 1000% sucess(its never tool ate for a good thing)