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The phone donīt power on, any idea?
Flex file is D3_00_35
help
thanks
:( :(
Hi
You've done wrong step!
V5x phones use sw F0_xx_xx instead
V8088 D3_xx_xx
So you need to flex your phone with F0_xx_xx
version again
SPlock
Originally posted by Andyx:
<STRONG>The phone donīt power on, any idea?
Flex file is D3_00_35
help
thanks
:( :(</STRONG>
Hi,
You know where to find it?
Regards
Originally posted by SPlock:
<STRONG>Hi
You've done wrong step!
V5x phones use sw F0_xx_xx instead
V8088 D3_xx_xx
So you need to flex your phone with F0_xx_xx
version again
SPlock
</STRONG>
andrees_g
07-17-2001, 21:02
Try to upload oly seem 14 from a flex file which a version close to your phone version and see if phone recover.
I have it
SPlock
Originally posted by Andyx:
<STRONG>Hi,
You know where to find it?
Regards
</STRONG>
Hi,
which can I try it again, if the phone donīt power on?
Can you send me the file?
Thanks
Originally posted by SPlock:
<STRONG>I have it
SPlock
</STRONG>
:confused: :confused:
Hi,
which can I try it again, if the phone donīt power on?
Thanks
Originally posted by Geo A:
<STRONG>Try to upload oly seem 14 from a flex file which a version close to your phone version and see if phone recover.</STRONG>
:confused: :confused:
Give your e-mail
Originally posted by Andyx:
<STRONG>Hi,
which can I try it again, if the phone donīt power on?
Can you send me the file?
Thanks
:confused: :confused:</STRONG>
andy2000@navegalia.com
Thanks
Originally posted by SPlock:
<STRONG>Give your e-mail
</STRONG>
:confused: :confused: :(
andrees_g
07-17-2001, 22:13
Lets resume:
If the phone connects the box (the link led light on) then there is a solution. Find a file with extension .fdf or .flx which has a version close to F0_XX_XX (I understood that was the version you have) and try to upload only seem 14 (emmidra 01 - old dos program can do this). If the link led did not light on then the problem is very strange. Did you flashed it before???
The link led did not light on?
Originally posted by Geo A:
<STRONG>Lets resume:
If the phone connects the box (the link led light on) then there is a solution. Find a file with extension .fdf or .flx which has a version close to F0_XX_XX (I understood that was the version you have) and try to upload only seem 14 (emmidra 01 - old dos program can do this). If the link led did not light on then the problem is very strange. Did you flashed it before???</STRONG>
:( :(
andrees_g
07-17-2001, 23:06
It is f.... strange. Did you flashed before.
Or the box is working with other phone? If box is working than the problem is realy strange. I never sought a phone complete dead from flexing. Where you bought the phone. Maby the transfer between box and phone gone wrong and the phone kernel messed ROM memory.
Hi !
I have this problem with T2288 - i flash 10 phones with DB_01_03 :mad: (phones totaly dead !!! DEAD BOOTLOADER)
But i finde solution (need open phone) and repair 9 phones but 1 phones totaly DEAD !!!
I don't have solution for v51 :( :( :(
Pardon, I have flash phone with D3_00_35.hex (6.15 Mb)
Originally posted by Geo A:
<STRONG>It is f.... strange. Did you flashed before.
Or the box is working with other phone? If box is working than the problem is realy strange. I never sought a phone complete dead from flexing. Where you bought the phone. Maby the transfer between box and phone gone wrong and the phone kernel messed ROM memory.</STRONG>
:confused:
andrees_g
07-17-2001, 23:37
Oh my ***. That is - you messed the phone. Whith all respect to full emmi - that never happens with roemmi flash becouse it keeps bootloader till you test the phone after flash. So the problem is that:
How flash process works on full emi:
-Emmi box signals flash.
-Phone loads bootloader.
-Emmi sends flash.
-Phone wrote new flash.
-When you power on - power chip boots phone, execute wrong flash, cpu got exception and at exception power off. This happen to fast so you see the phone is dead. So there are two solution:
-desolder flash, wrote good flash and resolder
-there is another solution I tested only on big phones like m3688 which complains making a short circuit and I am not shure is possible on kramer like pcb where all tracks are impossible to touch.
This is the big problem about fullemmi - no one speaks about what is happen when you miss the flash process (interrupt, battery end, or miss software uploaded.) The answer is expesiv phones dead.
Thanks
Originally posted by Geo A:
<STRONG>Oh my ***. That is - you messed the phone. Whith all respect to full emmi - that never happens with roemmi flash becouse it keeps bootloader till you test the phone after flash. So the problem is that:
How flash process works on full emi:
-Emmi box signals flash.
-Phone loads bootloader.
-Emmi sends flash.
-Phone wrote new flash.
-When you power on - power chip boots phone, execute wrong flash, cpu got exception and at exception power off. This happen to fast so you see the phone is dead. So there are two solution:
-desolder flash, wrote good flash and resolder
-there is another solution I tested only on big phones like m3688 which complains making a short circuit and I am not shure is possible on kramer like pcb where all tracks are impossible to touch.
This is the big problem about fullemmi - no one speaks about what is happen when you miss the flash process (interrupt, battery end, or miss software uploaded.) The answer is expesiv phones dead.</STRONG>
:( :( :( :(
andrees_g
07-18-2001, 01:23
You have no resons to thank me.
I should be happy to help but looks that the situation is that I told you. Full Emmi is a very nice tool. Only be shure the hex version you upload is close to the version of software the phone has inside. Olso be shure the battery is full loaded. Olso dont touch the box during flash process.
Best regards. :rolleyes:
mobileman
07-18-2001, 01:35
hOW COMES YOU'S DO NOT USE MOTOFLEX 8.01 CAN USE UNIVERSAL UNLOCKER AND FLEX PHONES 100% NO PROBLEMS FOR LAST 5 MONTHS. ANYONE GOT ANY FURTHER INFO ON WHAT EMMI BOX CAN BE USED FOR, THIS IS SEEMS TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE IMEI.
<FONT COLOR="#ffff00" SIZE="1">[ 18 July 2001 00:36: Message edited 1 time, lastly by mobileman ]</font>
andrees_g
07-18-2001, 01:42
Hello mmen
As I already said I never seen a phone dead after a flex. Andyx phone gived up after wrong flash not flex which is a more dangerous process. I did not understand your question about IMEI changing but I know that by flexing and having right update in emmibox - you can change value IMEI. :)
Hi Geo
I can to restore ALL motorolas after wrong flashing
without flash-chip desoldering 8-)
SPlock
Originally posted by Geo A:
-desolder flash, wrote good flash and resolder
expesiv phones dead.[/QB]
andrees_g
07-18-2001, 20:17
Short circuit? JTAG?
Hi !
I have methodic witout desolid flash. All Motorola phones have test point - put shotly on this point + 3.6 v and phone begin flashing !!!! Or in factory desolid flash ??? :eek: :eek: :eek:
I have test point for v3690/3688 T/v2288 only.
andrees_g
07-19-2001, 02:52
So there is a short circuit. Of course there is cases where this method cannot works.
Geo
Hi,
As I make the short circuit?
Thanks in advance
Originally posted by Geo A:
<STRONG>Short circuit? JTAG?</STRONG>
:( :( :(
Hi SPlock
As I can solve it?
Thanks in advance
Originally posted by SPlock:
<STRONG>Hi Geo
I can to restore ALL motorolas after wrong flashing
without flash-chip desoldering 8-)
SPlock
</STRONG>
:( :( :(
I have simular problem with one t2288! I have flashed it, and the phone worked perfect for a few days . Then the stuped Me have put the test card in the phone and typed 571# and the phone went dead.
Anybody have any idea or solution!
Maybe that test points that are mentioned in earlier posts!
Regards
Me@n
Solution for T2288 - only shortcut on test point
This FDF load from working phone:#
# Flexing information is for the following target
# -----------------------------------------------
# Flex Identifier :'A.A.CE.BX.00.BD.H.1.K.1.BP.A.A.AAAAAA.C'
# Software Release: F0.10.75
# Contents of SEEM elements:
# -----------------------------------------------
GROUP Quick_FDF
"A.A.CE.BX.00.BD.H.1.K.1.BP.A.A.AAAAAA.C::F0.10.75"
@ seem 12:1 byte 00-08 = 08 4A 94 72 40 00 96 53 00
@ seem 13:1 byte 00-01 = 13 33
@ seem 14:1 byte 00-0f = 64 01 00 0a 00 0e 00 03 0e 0e 23 28 00 08 05 01
@ seem 14:1 byte 10-1f = 0e 24 2a 29 0a 07 04 0e 0e 25 16 0b 09 06 03 0e
@ seem 14:1 byte 20-2f = 0e 0e 33 18 17 0f 02 0e 0e 0e 0e 0e 0e 0e 0e 0e
@ seem 14:1 byte 30-3f = 07 0b 28 13 01 06 00 23 0f 0e 03 08 25 24 0e 02
@ seem 14:1 byte 40-4f = 05 0a 2a 18 17 04 09 1f 70 74 ff 87 bf ff fb ff
@ seem 14:1 byte 50-5f = ff ff c7 ff f5 00 1c dc b7 ff 23 ff ff 59 37 fb
@ seem 14:1 byte 60-6f = f8 b7 c0 ff ba f7 6c 54 f8 07 51 50 08 11 03 4c
@ seem 14:1 byte 70-79 = 00 78 00 54 00 8c 00 00 00 00
@ seem 55:1 byte 00-02 = 00 00 00
@ seem 56:1 byte 00-00 = 00
@ seem 57:1 byte 00-01 = 21 43
@ seem 97:1 byte 00-00 = 00
END_GROUP
EXIT
Ok. Everybody is talking about that test point :confused: But vere is that test point. Thanks for flex but it is no use for me if I dont know where is test point!! :( :(
Regards
Me@n
[quote]Originally posted by SPlock:<br /><strong>I have it
SPlock
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Send me please.
Regards
CMS & SPlock<br />Plz give name name of testpoint, so I can find it on the Schematics.. <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="biggrin.gif" border="0">
Cms, tell me how can I download a flex file from a working phone, please? What hard'n'soft do I need for this?
Use Emmidraft ..
WBR<br />Crew
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vasuk:<br />[QB]Cms, tell me how can I download a flex file from a working phone, please?
Thank you for your answer, Crew. Does this Emmidraft work with Fullemmi? Where can I get this soft? Maybe you can help me...
Does emmidraft pick specific eeprom areas or is it just a range dump like with emmctrl ??
Does Emmidraft work with fullemmi? I tried to read EEPROM from phone, the program seemed to work but the output file is empty (the option selected was "all elements"). Maybe I should read a range? Which one then? Please help!
.. you have missing the file "ruki.sys"<br />just find it and all be ok .
WBR<br />Crew
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Vasuk:<br />[QB]Does Emmidraft work with fullemmi? I tried to read EEPROM from phone, the program seemed to work but the output file is empty
Your joke is well appreciated, thanks. But the program is not functioning here. "ruki.sys" os installed OK ;-))
Emmi draft can be downloaded from motorolatools group on yahoo<br />of course many more software <br />use gsmkey to read eeprom content<br />Emmi draft doesnt read and write sometimes
<a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motorolatools" target="_blank">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/motorolatools</a>
It's not a joke <br />If emmidraft is not work for you<br />that mean that you have your "ruki.sys" is corrupted..
WBR<br />Crew
[quote]Originally posted by Vasuk:<br /><strong>Your joke is well appreciated, thanks. But the program is not functioning here. "ruki.sys" os installed OK ;-))</strong><hr></blockquote>
Crew, send me this file "ruki.sys" via email if this is not a joke.
Cms, what did you read the FDF you posted here with?<br />Emmidraft writes the file in another format - non-FDF and uploads it itself. How to convert it to FDF?
[quote]Originally posted by cms:<br /><strong>Hi !<br />I have methodic witout desolid flash. All Motorola phones have test point - put shotly on this point + 3.6 v and phone begin flashing !!!! Or in factory desolid flash ??? <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <img src="eek.gif" border="0"> <br />I have test point for v3690/3688 T/v2288 only.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hi cms!
You can send me the test-point of V3688/3690<br /> <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <img src="frown.gif" border="0"> <br />andy2000@navegalia.com
Thanks <img src="wink.gif" border="0">
i was interested in this kramer problem when i saw the date when the message was posted.whoa.sorry i wasn`t here..:)