HOT - 4000 Euro Cheat - Ghost3D .....

[gsmfactory]

Unbelivable... this never happend to me before.... a retailer cheat me of 4000 euro (in reallity 3000 Euro cheated...)

Who : Ghost3D
For what : Panasonic GD67 & 87 LOG

Why : we first talk about make business together and have exclusivity in france.... he say me ok for 4000 Euro for 1500 LOG I first Send 1000 Euro and he give me 140 LOG to test.

All ok... so I send 3000 Euro for the rest.... 1360 LOG.

1 week after (I sell 140 LOG + 80...) he receive a mail from EvilSpell to tell him I sell under price for 5 euro (that is not true....) and for 200 Euro for 20 CODE (that used to be true)....

Ghost3D Very angry block my account for 5 day and cheat me for 800 LOG leaving 400 LOG in my account instead of 1200... why because EVILSPELL who Is Michel Souffir in France (but I have exclusivity in france now....) says lie by telling I sell for 5 or 10 Euro .....

ok.... I can understand because for 10 Euro is thrue (not for 5) but, 10 Euro is not kill the market... but it's the rules with ghost so ok....

Since two week I make a professional marketing page with official price and NEVER get down the price (Last sales is 500 Euro for 50 LOG so it's official price to a tunisia guy "Piston")

but Evilspell... restart is cheat mail to ghost3D, just see :

"Hi Ghost,
You know that Roamin (gsmfactory) sell the GD67/87 log at 5 and 10 Euros !!!
really its not normal!!! he Cheat all the market this F¨¨¨N Guy!!!

But Now dont tell him that it's me ,otherwise he'll send me others mails
with insults!!

see you
Evilspell"

and now ghost3D cheat me my LOG leaving in my account.....

What should I do ?

[VictorGSM]

Hi,

Iinsults - favourite word of some "chiefs"..............

Romain is a good seller, I've done a lot of business with him, and he has always been correct, I never had any delays or problems, so I look forward to cooperate with him.

[rrakip]

Hello Mr.Romain (gsmfactory)
i also work with Ghost3D but he always been honest with me and his bussines,i never do buss with you,but i know also and that you are honest and trustable guy with much experience in this Gsm World..
I really dont know what happend with you & Mr.Evilspell but you must solve this!
Ghost3D all of guys who sells his logs give it his Official Prices and this prices cant go lower then what Ghost Sell it!
This is just my thinking!
Thinking that you will solve this problem!
Regards
Gsm Experts Team
www.GSM-EXPERTS.com
email: info@gsm-experts.com
Sales Department: sales@gsm-experts.com
Support Department: support@gsm-experts.com
Phone: + 385 98 197-8809

[XenKo78]

hi guys!

Romain is 100000% trustable guy and my friend , i make good buisness with him, we exchanges somes infos about differents things and no problem!

This pearson have been in the first of the GSM market and buisness and have a web page over 5 years and he is the leader in Paris (after me) :D
He make good price and good buisness because he buy a big quantity of logs, box etc... so it is normal he make a good price for him old customers like me and some others so what is the problem???

Elivseel cheat some friends of me for differents things ( maxim dongles and more things i don't want to write here ) and i think this guy want to make only troubles with Romain to break him buisness because he is jealous.

to ghost:
i think u must think about u're decision and don't break him account for uncredible guy who cheat some people to serious and nice guy like Romain. I think it is not the best solmutions for u and for us because he pay you u're logs and price u ask and he is not crazy to sell as less he buy isn't it?

I hope this trouble will be arranged as soon to restart to make good buisness with customers and continue to work!

[Networkunlock]

I have dealt with Romain from Gsmfactory on a number of occasions and have found him to br reliable and trustworthy in my experience. I am sure this dilemma can be resolved by talking, after all I have been in this fiery section a few times.

[bahtiyar]

Romain is a cool guy and good business man. Every country got rivalry but noone should be like Evilspell....but unfortunately some people this this...anyway Romain is %10000 trustbale guys....

[MrCOOL]

ROMAIN GSMFACTORY IS 100% trustable i'm his custommer and I dealed with him about 10000 $ before so if he gonna kill the market he would give me best price i'm his best resseller in africa but I just bought there is 3 days an account of 50 pieces for 500 euro so in what he gonna kill the market I don't understand( also evilspell is a reseller and respect prices so when romain proposed to him this offer for big quantities sales not more

[source]

well...
what should i say??
ok Romain is often ******* me off, but he still a good man, he do what he say, sometimes had strange reactions, but all is ok now

concerning evilspell, i will not restart the polemic, i think zfrank and the other admins to who i had explained the stories are knowing too.

this is just another event made by evilspsell, we dont know what he is trying to get...

we are not here to talk and loosing our precious time, but to work and walk in a secure way, this business is goeing more and more in a big money way, and we must stay between professionals knowing what we are doeing.

BR
Source@gsmhacking.com.ua

[Pana_Ghost3D]

I can tell just this:

Romain, you accepted this rules at beginning:

1. DO NOT SELL LOGS UNDER MY and UNDER PRICES of MY
OTHER RE-SELLERs - that is incorrect to others !

2. DO NOT GIVE LOGGER TO CUSTOMERS WITHOUT PAYMENT

You did not respected anything of that and I warned you first attime, at second time I reset your account to 500 LOGs and at last time ? What I can to except this?

Regards,

[gsmfactory]

Yes but I dindn't say you're lying for the first time when you reset my account to 500..... I say why NOW you heard this bull****er of evilspell... because since you advert me I NEVER SELL UNDER YOUR PRICE !!!

GIVE US A PROOF I SELL UNDER YOUR PRICE... ASK TO ALL MY CUSTOMER...

[Pana_Ghost3D]

And I expecting your apologize for this:

CHEATER !
EVERYBODY WILL SOON NOW THE THRUE ABOUT YOU AND you WILL BE KICKED !!

Evilspeel was removed from 10 FORUM because is a cheater (since few day he's
remove from gsmcity.de! !!)
and you trust him !

**** YOU GHOST... if you don't calculate my LOG I invest 5000 Euro on your
HEAD !

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ghost3D" <ghost3d@vip.hr>
To: "Romain Brabant" <romain@gsmfactory.com>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:56 PM
Subject: Re[14]: IMPORTANT !

Regards,

[gsmfactory]

the real problem is not that, is how you can **** me like you do.... it's to easy..... for maybe 100 Euro of benefic I'm ****ed for 3000 euro.... that's not fair !

[Pana_Ghost3D]

Romain, you did not lost anything.

140 LOGs was 1000 EUR and I only set back your account
to 4 x 140 LOGs = 560 LOGs (you paid 4000 EUR) and you already got your money back. You just lost your exlusive
price for remote unlocking in France.

Regards,

[source]

come on ghosty
dont cry
this is not big deal
you are not the only one anymore giving those codes
10 euros are not killing your market

be cool man

[gsmfactory]

thanks you ghost I invest 4000 Euro to get only money back on my investissemennt.... what answer can you give me now ?

People : Invest in 4000 Euro in Ghost3D Solution and have 0% Profit is good ?

[evilspell]

@Admins,mods,members:

Take a look on Ghost and Gsmfactory discussion and you'll anderstood the story!!!
In this bad story between them :"I'm a hair in a soup"





@ Romain Brabant

I contacted Ghost to buy Pana logs from him and he answer me with his prices :
10 logs at 200 Euros and 20 logs at......
I answered that his prices are to high and i gave him the link of the Gsmfactory's prices just to watch him that he's expensive.
I never know that Ghost was selling his logs to Gsmfactory???
I received from Gsmfactory ,Source and others freinds of this guy insults and i didnt anderstood where was my fault!!!!

I sended a mail to Ghost to have some explanations about this story ,and he told me that he was sorry for this story ,he also told me "apologyses"!!!
Ghost was not a man on this story,instead he speak with his costumer gsmfactory about there bad behaviour (10 euros instead 20E the log) ,he sended my mail to Gsmfactory!!!
But my intention in this case was only to have cheappers prices and not to make troubbles!!!!

All admins and Mods now that there is some poeples that they dont like me (i think that all mods or admins have the same "FANS") ,they now also that Source always follow my *** and now he bring with him freinds!!!!! GREAT man !! Keep going!!!

@Xenko
Its easy to say that i cheated many peoples but if i only cheated one guy,all admins ,mods and others know it ,but never happened because its only bad propaganda!!!!!

The problem is not Gsmfactory is or not trustable ,many members now post that "gsmfact..... is 10000000% trustable or 20000%" but it's not the real problem!!!

The real problem is that they want to put dirtiness on this forum!!!
Romain Brabant have his own "BIG Forum",so normally he must put this story on his Forum?? but he posted here, so why???

He want to be the only French resseller of Sw and Hw ,but open your eyes man,you cannot eat the World!!!
i heard that he said to my costumers many bad things about me, because he want to thief my market !!!

He reroute a problem with Ghost and he to put it on me!!!

There is Thousands members on this great forum and i'm always attacked by the same team (Gsmfact...,Source and 2 others perhaps) :
if i was a bad guy, admins should received hundreds complaints ,but its not the case!!!

this is the real truth !!!

(sorry for bad english)

[Pana_Ghost3D]

Romain,

I really don't know what to do with you. You avowed that you did not respected our deal. And what you expecting from me now?

Regards,

[gsmfactory]

Evilspell :

you are a cheater, when you say "I'm a hair in a soup", you're wrong.... you'r surely a big stinky **** under a ***** !!!

when you say "I just want to make price lower", you cheat everybody and lie because you say to Ghost3D :

"You know that Roamin (gsmfactory) sell the GD67/87 log at 5 and 10 Euros !!!
really its not normal!!! he Cheat all the market this F¨¨¨N Guy!!!"

I never Sell for 5 Euro TroubleMaker, Cheater, Looser, Understand ?

Ghost3D :

What to do ? calculate the LOG of my customer give me 400 Unlock Code in my account mimum (after calculating the code I allready give to you before this secund story)

[evilspell]

@ gsmF......
i return back to you all these compliments!!!
We know that you are mad now because you have problem with Ghost ,but here it's not a play ground man ,so put your dirty posts on your forum !!! why here???
Its private discission between you and Ghost so ,finish it by mail.

Be quiet,now all members know this story;so you could sleep better this night ,but you cannot write your stupidities on this forum,you know that private discussion is forbidden on the forum!


I must close the topic now

[source]

Evilspell dont start like this man, you know your situation more then i'm supposd to know it....

Ghost
its up to you to restart business with romaon or not

we are maybe in very good relationship in private life, but in business, its for who gonna eat the other first, as we are the 2 persons owning the more remote unlocking solutions

so i telll you, and i try to be and stay diplomatic, fair and right, if y stop to supply romain, he gonna buy the logs to me (i have the other server, the realtime one, and dont want to kill the business or the prices)
and you gonna lost a big customer
you can believe he didnt do what evilspell is saying

BR
source@gsmhacking.com.ua

[Pandemonio100]

My personal opinion is that this is a very bad pubblicity for all "GSMFACTORY", "EVILSPELL" and also form the manufacturing "GHOST3D". This isn't a good place to resolve your personal problem, you have to clear in private this discussion because is not good for your customers, what do you believe thinks of you reading what you have written?
I know all of you in the Years, and there you have never been problems.
Please don't post here others discussion and if you reach an accord I ask GHOST3D to contact me to cancel what you have written (according whit Admins). ;)

[gsmfactory]

First:

Thanks for all people who understand me and help me.

Second...

For Ghost3D, I just think he have some bad opignion from the start of me because we never deal before.... and maybe he think I want to bypass him.... but I alway give money to author directly and I'm here to make money only. So I'm sure we'll private find a solution.

Third :

Evilspell, you're the most stupid guyz in this business.... because of you some board stink really, that's why I go on this forum to kick your *** because you're banned on my forum..... and because my forum is in french (I have the french market) and this problem is international and english (Ghost3D and you) so the MarketPlace for english is here....

We officialy have 12 Customer who have trouble with you on Siemens Dongle, On a BIG cheat with CashGSM on Sagem Server, and other troubleshooting I don't have to details here. Let me make business.... you're to Old (about 60 isn't it) for this business... go spleeping or make some improvement in your small garden. And stop contact my supllier to make trouble !

Drink your hot chocolate and leave us in peace !

[Pana_Ghost3D]

I did not beggin with this discussion...
and I will not reply to any post here in future.

Sorry on bad English and thanx to all,
special to Pandemonio and Source

regards,

[razvanelgsm]

:D :D :D :D :D

;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

[evilspell]

iTs my last post about that,i never reply about this bad propaganda and polemic!!

It very easy also to me to invent names like "Cashgsm" or Siemens or others !!
i could have the same behaviour than you but i never did it!!you're perhaps 20/22 years old and you don't know the life like me (you said i'm 60)!!

You said that You are here to make money ,but its the big difference between us:
I'M NOT HERE TO MAKE MONEY !!!!!!!!!
and all members ,mods and admins know that!!!

so please ,come back in your beautifull forum and take with you all your freinds and partners (all that who posted here that you're 10000 and 20000 and 30000% trustable) and let us quiet on our forum and dont come back again please!!!

it's my last answer!!!

a special thanks to mods that supported me;) ;)

[gsmfactory]

If it's your last word evilspell, perfect. I'll finally have the final world....

people : ghost3D is fair we're going to find a solution..... I will keep you informed (customer don't be stressed he finish log I send to him in the evening)

people : don't be cheated by the old monkey evilspell who effectivily with experience can sell nothing for expensive and find time to make trouble between competitor & her retailer... I'm going to reopen a Topic about him with the help of all people cheated by him ! with all proof.... 100% hot & juicy !!! ;)

[infogsm]

IT's better that all members vote who is the cheater!!!!! after that he will be kicked off from the forum!!!!!!!

peace!!!!

[Pandemonio100]

@Infogsm and all members please
don't reply here who is a cheater and who no, all of us know GSMFACTORY, EVILSPELL, and GHOST3D sure good peolpe, but they now owe clear between them, we don't enter there in this discussion.

;)

[gsmfactory]

PS : my apologize all is going better with ghost....

Pandomenio : you can delete this post if you can, I will open a new post for Evilspell only with the real thrue

[Winner58]

Hi @ll
I think you all shoud cleared our differences privately and not here!!!

TOPIC CLOSED!!!

[Winner58]

Pana_Ghost3D and gsmfactory

don`t spam the board with lies!!!!!
CHECK THE BOARDRULES!!!
don´t consult other members, moderators or supermoderators!!!
If you have differences, so clear it privately via ICQ or email and not here in forum!!!
next time i must bann you!!!