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pez8210

03-30-2003, 00:09

DIV

I think that all the customers of DIV dongles, want to know what will be the future of DIV software now.

Because we know that your dongle was cracked by chinese people emulating smart card with a pic.

I saw it at www.tele-way.com ( but I suppose that you know)

Actually I have DIV6.2 but now I can´t download any new version from www.sonyericssonflasher.com cause my pass doesn´t work
and the people who sell me the dongle doesn´t have a new one.

So, please tell to us the reality of the future in DIV's new software releases

Thanks in advance

P.D you didn´t response to my mail

Invisible

03-31-2003, 18:38

hi,

@pez8210:

"Because we know that your dongle was cracked by chinese people emulating smart card with a pic"
did you saw that?.. I am not sure since is not true, you have listened some story but is just that, a story

"I saw it at www.tele-way.com"
teleway people is selling original div with Shumberger inside, you should ask them if not belive me, you will get surprise:eek:

" tell to us the reality of the future in DIV's"
I am not Zulea but I can guess...no future, no updates, as is,
so you can forget about T66 and newer,

best regards
Invisible

Crew

03-31-2003, 18:41

DIV will support T66 soon

WBR
Crew

Originally posted by Invisible

so you can forget about T66 and newer,

Invisible

03-31-2003, 18:47

hi,

hope that will be true but I have heard that before,
(like all other users)..and for so long, now just sound funny :)

best regards
Invisible

DrMobile

03-31-2003, 19:15

Originally posted by Invisible
hi,

@pez8210:

"Because we know that your dongle was cracked by chinese people emulating smart card with a pic"
did you saw that?.. I am not sure since is not true, you have listened some story but is just that, a story

"I saw it at www.tele-way.com"
teleway people is selling original div with Shumberger inside, you should ask them if not belive me, you will get surprise:eek:

" tell to us the reality of the future in DIV's"
I am not Zulea but I can guess...no future, no updates, as is,
so you can forget about T66 and newer,

best regards
Invisible

@Invisible,
I am 100% sure....
DIV is cracked... and DIV smartCard is emulated in PIC inside cracked DIV..

I tested and Saw cracked DIV.

Best Regards,
Wahab

SADESURF

03-31-2003, 19:42

@pez8210,

i don't know what user and pass you have

the support area at sonyer....... works perfect til now

regards sade

pez8210

03-31-2003, 23:06

@ Invisible

It´s the same to me if you don´t believe me, I really know that
as DrMobile and many others because I personally talked with this people.
SADESURF my Icq is 165654690

thanks

frenchi

03-31-2003, 23:54

...i don't think DIV was cracked but it's true that there is a working DIV dongle without card,but with emulated MCU inside;)

WBR
frenchi

dimitri

04-01-2003, 00:45

Protection is cracked , now U don't need DIV SmartCard

U can see here

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79075

evilspell

04-01-2003, 02:10

Hi
some explanations are very....
confused: :confused: :confused:

DIV

04-01-2003, 08:13

Hi,

I'm still waiting for some dongles ordered from Chinese market.
They claimed that replaced Schlumberger with small IC.
I ordered dongles to see exactly what's inside, and to make next update to not work with all this dongles.

But after ~10 days, I still received nothing. A new update is ready for more time ago, but I wait for this dongles. At this time I really don't know exactly if this chinese dongles really exist, but I take the decision to still wait until all things will be clear enough.

About "software" released by Dimitri (YU), it's an old EXE version of DIV software who not used full possibilities of SmartCard and for that reason was 'cracked' and remade 'user interface'. Anybody interested can spent 85$ to see that this software:
- NOT work on A3618 and T100 (even for read codes)
- NOT have implemented A3618, R600 and T100 flashing
- NOT repair 4 locks closed
- ... and some other bugs
About updates to this software (Dimitri-YU), all we will see, but in my personal opinion will never come (because latest version of DIV softwares really use some powerfull features of smartcard who can not be easy just 'skiped').

All what can I say now is that ALL owners of DIV dongles with original smartcards will have updates and will be 'protected' by false/cheap competitors. I supose any owner (buyer) of original DIV do not want to see a new update who will work with some chinese s.h.i.t. clone. So, that is the reason for this delay in releasing new update.

DIV

Chuk

04-01-2003, 08:20

Really usefull answer. :)

Bigbrothers2000

04-01-2003, 09:11

Originally posted by Chuk
Really usefull answer. :)

I agree very good answer from div

best regards

Invisible

04-01-2003, 10:15

hi,

well, agree totaly with DIV, situation in now clear,

best regards
Invisible

evilspell

04-01-2003, 10:31

Hi,
And what do you think about the situation of ALL owners of DIV dongles ??
Of course you dont want to give the new update before checking the "clone" but all these guys cannot today unlock or flash the last versions and models?

Invisible

04-01-2003, 10:48

hi,

I think is better wait few days that found clones working with new update, that will means money lost (specialy if new update supports T66 and newer phones).
By the way, people had see cloned dongles, please point Div where did you saw so update come,

best regards
Invisible

DIV

04-01-2003, 10:49

Originally posted by evilspell
Hi,
And what do you think about the situation of ALL owners of DIV dongles ??
Of course you dont want to give the new update before checking the "clone" but all these guys cannot today unlock or flash the last versions and models?

And what exactly is this last versions and models (except T66/T600)???
YES, there is still missing T66 and T600, BUT all others models can be unlocked/flashed verry well.

AND, if you have ANY tool who support T66/T600, just try disconect cable when flashing phone!! Your phone will be DEAD forever!! And this apply even to EMMA 2 software and original equipment (hardlock, smartcard and original interface)!! Also think that flashin process is take ~5 min. on T66/T600, so the probability of cable disconnections, communication lost or power down failure of PC is higher enough!!

DIV

DIV

04-01-2003, 10:53

Originally posted by Invisible
hi,

I think is better wait few days that found clones working with new update, that will means money lost (specialy if new update supports T66 and newer phones).
By the way, people had see cloned dongles, please point Div where did you saw so update come,

best regards
Invisible

If anybody can sell me one of this clones, I can pay 200$-250$ for one of this dongles. Or I can give in exchange one original DIV dongle with Schlumberger smartcard inside. But MUST have NO smartcard inside and MUST work with latest DIV software (version 6.2) downloaded from support page!

So, if is true that this dongles are available at 150$, hurry up, you can make ~100$ profit ;)

DIV

Invisible

04-01-2003, 10:53

hi,

"AND, if you have ANY tool who support T66/T600, just try disconect cable when flashing phone!! Your phone will be DEAD forever!"

well Panasonic phones happens the same, everything have a risk,
by the way, if T66/T600 are not supported in new version what are update changes?:confused:

best regards
Invisible

DIV

04-01-2003, 10:59

Originally posted by Invisible
hi,

"AND, if you have ANY tool who support T66/T600, just try disconect cable when flashing phone!! Your phone will be DEAD forever!"

well Panasonic phones happens the same, everything have a risk,
by the way, if T66/T600 are not supported in new version what are update changes?:confused:

best regards
Invisible

T66/T600 will be supprted unlock in next version.
And here is a list of future models supported: T610, T316, T106
All of this 3 models are allready implemented, but I have only one T610 prototype phone. So, first it will be better to wait for this models to be on the market.

Anyway, T610 will be in next version ;)

DIV

Invisible

04-01-2003, 11:02

hi,

perfect, thanks for info!

best regards
Invisible

evilspell

04-01-2003, 11:44

~@Div,
I you need it,i could test the Div V6.2 with the clone dongle but give me a link for it?

Magic2ik

04-01-2003, 12:27

www.unlocker.nu/uploads/DIV_62_nologo.zip

Magic2ik

04-01-2003, 12:28

www.unlocker.nu/uploads/DIV_62_nologo.zip

i will kill this link in 10 hour from now

DrMobile

04-01-2003, 12:46

Originally posted by DIV
If anybody can sell me one of this clones, I can pay 200$-250$ for one of this dongles. Or I can give in exchange one original DIV dongle with Schlumberger smartcard inside. But MUST have NO smartcard inside and MUST work with latest DIV software (version 6.2) downloaded from support page!

So, if is true that this dongles are available at 150$, hurry up, you can make ~100$ profit ;)

DIV

So I can help U...

I have cracked DIV which is working GOOD with DIV6.2 and tested by ME.... I repaired 4locks closed T68i and T39 with cracked DIV.... 100% working....

If u need tell me.....

But I don't bought it for USD150... I bought it at USD300/-

Just contact me Via email wahabone@hotmail.com
or ICQ # 13344410
or PHONE # +92-300-9502909

Best Regards,
Wahab

Quang Thao

04-01-2003, 14:24

Hi
yes I buy cracked dongle with the same price of origine dongle, it is not 150$.
And they say that it is the same. Yes I test it on DIV 6.2 and it work 100%. The same. Can flash and reapair .. all the same.

best regards

SADESURF

04-01-2003, 15:02

i bought DIV dongle but i'm not sure if its the original one

but it works on DIV6.2 and solved my 4locks closed problem

how can i find out if it is a original ??

regards sade

dimitri

04-01-2003, 15:30

@ DIV

U R sill the best :D ,but in your previous post says :
***** About "software" released by Dimitri (YU), it's an old EXE version of DIV software who not used full possibilities of SmartCard and for that reason was 'cracked' *****

So, my personal opinion is that * bypassing boot * w/o Schlumberger SmardCard is good enough :D . All this protection with Java card is made just 'cause of BOOT , am I right ?

With all my respect , STAY COOL :D

@ ALL

I'm looking for TRUSTABLE resselers !!!

xxxpaga

04-01-2003, 16:12

@DIV

Hi, if you remember i had a problem with italian language upload in T100 from Spain... Please, can you tell me if you resolved this problem and in the new software are the solution or not?
If you have read my post in your forum i writed down all the info of this phones.
Is important to me one reply because i have a lot of this phone and if i can't do nothing the next week i must sell these back in Spain and i lost big money!!!
Thanks in advance for your reply.

B.R.
Alex xxxpaga@inwind.it

Quang Thao

04-01-2003, 16:17

This is inside of DIV 6.2 cracked.
You can see small chip in center they replace Smartcard by that chip.

http://www.thienlongtel.com/div2.JPG

http://www.thienlongtel.com/div1.JPG

and don't have Smartcard inside.
But I test it work the same Origine???

best regards

DrMobile

04-01-2003, 16:39

Originally posted by Quang Thao
This is inside of DIV 6.2 cracked.
You can see small chip in center they replace Smartcard by that chip.

http://www.thienlongtel.com/div2.JPG

http://www.thienlongtel.com/div1.JPG

and don't have Smartcard inside.
But I test it work the same Origine???

best regards

Yes...... above is cracked DIV..... and working with version 6.2
TESTED by ME..

Best Regards,
Wahab

vule

04-01-2003, 16:45

Hi

Getting more and more interesting here...

I am pretty sure that schlumberger CAN NOT be cracked at present, but....

Even if it is only heavy protection for soft, even it does not calculate boot authority keys, it have to be bypassed somehow to start soft ( DIV6.2 ) !!!

Now, if they manage to bypass schlumberger security then security which use smartcard can be bypassed....

And who will tell this to Uncle Sam????

BR

Vule

dimitri

04-01-2003, 16:52

.... NOW COOLER CAN UNLOCK T100 and T600 !!!!

Soon new update :D :D :D

PhantomGSM

04-01-2003, 17:11

we're not doing mobile phones now, we do goverment security by-pass solutions lol

I don't think for a minute that they managed to crack the smart card but do believe they have worked out or bought the code for the chip which now replaces the smart card.

All i can say is "Smart Card" Huh

WBR

PhantomGSM

04-01-2003, 17:12

dimitri

04-01-2003, 17:13

@ invisible

I can't send U mail , something is wrong with your mailbox , I always get back my mail with * MAIL DELIVERY SUBSISTEM - RETURNED MAIL * msg

Invisible

04-01-2003, 17:16

hi,

I think same, they are remplacing gold card with pic, but in fact both are same, don´t?, so people are not having craked dongles just new ´dirty´ implementation of dongle,

best regards
Invisible

dimitri

04-01-2003, 17:20

... well , DOD standards need protection update :D

Quang Thao

04-01-2003, 17:29

yes
They replace Smartcard by small chip it is = 12C509A.
So I think the code in side is come from DIV...
Because the seller say that. he say all the same.
best regards

Invisible

04-01-2003, 18:03

hi,

well if 12c509 inside then no hard to get rid of that clones since 12c509 running up to 4Mhz and Gold card running at 8Mhz, so if program talk with Gold card fast enought 12c509 fail emulate,

best regards
Invisible

SADESURF

04-01-2003, 18:18

just a question, maybe a stupid one:

is the DIV dongle broken if i open it?

because if i would open the dongle i caould see if it's a cracked one or an original from DIV

regards sade

Quang Thao

04-01-2003, 19:40

@ Invisible

Smarcard run at 14.7456 / 4 = 3.6864MHz
you can see it in shcematic of terminator. they use 74HC74 to devide 4.
So the same when use 12C509A to simulate.

best regards

cmk

04-01-2003, 19:53

12c509a=easy crack=easy clone=cheap price=no support:mad: :mad:

DrMobile

04-01-2003, 19:56

Originally posted by SADESURF
just a question, maybe a stupid one:

is the DIV dongle broken if i open it?

because if i would open the dongle i caould see if it's a cracked one or an original from DIV

regards sade

U can open and see your Dongle from INSIDE without any demage.

Best Regards,
Wahab

cmk

04-01-2003, 20:15

@DIV

i think all crack dongle had same id, div can made next update protect software
to barring this id and give bad command to kill phone:D :D

really hope div can keep good support to true customer

DIV

04-01-2003, 20:17

As I said before, still waiting for ordered chinese dongles.
But, here is some 'small' detail:

ANY Schlumberger (Java) card can be remotely updated (and I mean here write all the Java Applet from inside). And all of this is done using 3DES for crypt the applet code. If somebody think than a 12C509 can emulate this function (who was NEVER used untill now), .... is joking ;)

Also, there is more hidden (not used) things on original Java smartcards, so don't worry about what will happens in the future with this 'chinese clones' ;)

All what I can say is that users of DIV dongles with ORIGINAL Schlumberger smartcards inside will be protected and will have real new updates.

DIV

cmk

04-01-2003, 20:20

very good news:) :)

DIV

04-01-2003, 20:25

@ cmk:

Possibilities are unlimited ;)
But I just waiting to receive one of this s.h.i.t.s.
For 'security reasons' I will not write here what will happens exactly ;)

Just wait and see.

Regards,
DIV

Bigbrothers2000

04-01-2003, 20:29

Originally posted by DIV
@ cmk:

Possibilities are unlimited ;)
But I just waiting to receive one of this s.h.i.t.s.
For 'security reasons' I will not write here what will happens exactly ;)

Just wait and see.

Regards,
DIV

Yes you are right first look to this S.h.i.t.s and make new protected software . for real customers

best regards :)

cmk

04-01-2003, 20:58

i think some people want to attack div and make fake dongle

first cutting smartcard to small size to fit 12c509 and use glue to
cover it like picture and selling to some people ,if really crack why the price is $300

i near to china but i never see crack div is $150

Quang Thao

04-01-2003, 21:08

@cmk
No it is true. It is 12C509A in small size. I open glue and see it is 12C509A. It not a small smarcard.
@ DIV
yes you much make your soft with protect bester than.
Because I don't known and I buy 1 this dongle. They say it is come from you. Because at now all is the same and I buy. When I open I see that. I take picture and post here for all to see what is it.
best regards

vule

04-02-2003, 00:08

So fake again !!! It will do just like terminator !!!

@ DIV

Keep up good work man !

spear

04-02-2003, 00:17

@cmk
i think all crack dongle had same id, div can made next update protect software
to barring this id and give bad command to kill phone

really hope div can keep good support to true customer

True !!!

http://fool.exler.ru/sm/brsh.gif

Supergsm

04-02-2003, 01:26

Nothing is impossible!

tianma

04-02-2003, 05:38

http://www.hytbox.com/lb5000/non-cgi//usr/8/8_297_4.gif

fhwong

04-02-2003, 06:37

@tianma

???????????????????

tianma

04-02-2003, 06:45

i'm not used smartcards. run soft.

pez8210

04-02-2003, 08:21

@DIV

Thanks for the explannation I think all is allright now, we wait for new upgrade full of new surprises ;)

@Invisible Do you believe now? ;)

SADESURF

04-02-2003, 10:09

@DIV

check your PM!!

regards sade

Invisible

04-02-2003, 10:45

@Quang Thao:

you are right, I forgot about schematic.. :)

@pez8210:

yes, I belive, :), but still not sure this is craked dongle, last notice I got was that div project was for sale, so could someone had buy it and make variant dongle?

best regards
Invisible

cmk

04-02-2003, 11:09

@SADESURF

pls send PM again because my inbox is full

mobilemafia

04-02-2003, 12:27

Originally posted by Invisible
@Quang Thao:

you are right, I forgot about schematic.. :)

@pez8210:

yes, I belive, :), but still not sure this is craked dongle, last notice I got was that div project was for sale, so could someone had buy it and make variant dongle?

best regards
Invisible

that was i said earliar
massage from mslion about 100 box
with pic only inside
six month support

its now one month from that post day

it is not cracked but he encased [i think]

pez8210

04-02-2003, 18:18

who knows? maybe, all is possible in that bussiness....

SADESURF

04-02-2003, 18:24

yes, but this is f-*/- business!!!!

kingofhearts

04-03-2003, 00:33

Does these cheap DIV dongle also supports the other DIV functions like GDFS reset etc etc. And what about the support for new models like P-800???????

uu1dx

04-03-2003, 01:14

XXXXX wrote me on ICQ:

Hello , how are u ? i have for u
Very Spiecal offer for Div 6.2
10 pcs with ONLY 1200$ included Fedex or DHL delivery
Ready in Stock and it's BEST PRICE FOR RESELLERS ONLY
if u need let me know :)
Regards

2 DIV: If U need info where to buy - contact me on ICQ
:D

SADESURF

04-03-2003, 09:49

@kingofhearts

it supports GDFS functions
and sure P800 (i didn't test it yet)

regards sade

PhantomGSM

04-03-2003, 10:10

well the way i see it is this :
DIV can either release a dongle free or terminator only needed software version ! (this **** chinese clone makers)
and/or add protection to newer versions (ban the cloned id !) like suggested already.

@DIV
i'd be interested to know your opinion on my thoughts

WBR

Regards

Invisible

04-03-2003, 10:52

hi,

sure that if DIV release dongle free version everybody will be very happy, specialy his div customers, that would invite to don´t buy any more from him

best regards
Invisible

SADESURF

04-03-2003, 12:23

I'm definetely sure that DIV won't give away free solution

hjahahaha!!

Quang Thao

04-03-2003, 15:12

Hi
They use 12C509A and 1 EEPROm 24C256 to simulate Smartcard.
brgds

vule

04-03-2003, 16:05

How they get contents to write in eep to emulate smartcard???

Don't tell me they readed it out from schlumberger...

By the way, week ago or so i get offer from someone, and that was not Mr. Henzulea, to buy code to write in smartcards... Price was 20.000$, that person was ready to demonstrate programming but i canceled whole deal when i found who was it !!!

And again, that was no Mr. Henzulea nor anyone from his team !!!

BR

Vule

legija

04-04-2003, 00:48

As i said before, dear friends, smart card content will be released, for free, or for small:D price . . .
Of course this will "kill" our bussines, but that's the way in this gsm world . . .
Simple, i hate even word "free":D

PhantomGSM

04-04-2003, 01:35

dejan done it to stop ppl making money from his software cos they managed to clone it.....and i just thought that if DIV is gonna make better protection on any new versions of software/hardware he develops that if he released the version that work without the smartcard then it would phuck the ppl selling cloned DIV's

sorry if that is long winded or doesn't make much sense but if ppl steal to re-sell isn't that worse ? why not mess their money making plans up by releasing free ?

Regards

DIV

04-04-2003, 01:54

Nothing will be released for free, in any case !!!
What Dejan did some time ago was his point of view.

All what I can say is that OUR direct or through our resellers customers will be protected in some way. I not make any action yet, but will come soon. About 'chinese customers' is theyr choice, but .... for sure they must expect some nice surprises ;)

DIV

legija

04-04-2003, 02:08

@DIV
Actualy, you talking like you're only guy who can write soft to flash SE phones ? So what if you improve your own protection ?
There are hundreds programmers in this comunity who can write even better soft than you . . .
For this time, those guys just using your work which they get for FREE:D, but if they need to write new soft, they will do that.
Skoker did it long time ago (thanks to you), Lead also, Terror, Dimitri, etc . . .
You implemented "4 locks" bug intentionaly, just to screw up skoker's bussines, but you must know, you're NOT only one, there are also few good peoples around . . .
What hapened with money you cheated GSMNL1 ?:D

kenichi

04-04-2003, 11:12

Originally posted by DIV
All what I can say is that users of DIV dongles with ORIGINAL Schlumberger smartcards inside will be protected and will have real new updates

You are allways telling us that Schlumberger cards owners will have updates, but..........

What will happen to 2'nd class cheap cards you are selling now.....?
Have view some and I can bet my hands (both) that these are not Schlumberger......These update cards from U have also "crypted 3DES remote update" and all these hidden functions..................

I think that only first 1500-2000 dongle onwers have Schlumberger cards, but updated dongles (firstly was impossible to buy one smartcards, after comes to every shop and price get down fast) have these 2'nd class cards.......

Am I right?

Invisible

04-04-2003, 11:55

hi,

that´s true, I have seen some dongles with gold card inside,
that´s standard card used for satelite recivers and can be bought for arround 3 euro, nothing to do with schlumberger and nothing with 3des (unless were software implemented).
However, being gold card or schlumberger I think is time to see new release and all that clones dongles killed, time is running up and money is being loosed,

best regards
Invisible

PhantomGSM

04-04-2003, 12:16

hey hey just stick it in yer sim card reader matey and bobs your uncle sue :)

lol

@legja
4 locks was deliberate ? can you tell us more ?

BR

cmk

04-04-2003, 14:16

my dongle is gold card:confused: :confused:

Invisible

04-04-2003, 16:22

hi,

@daloser:
" just stick it in yer sim card reader"..I did it 2 minutes after opened package, CP:ON, better luck next time
@cmk:
mine too gold card, but I got from official reseller so I am not worried,

best regards
Invisible

cmk

04-04-2003, 17:17

@Invisible

i got from official reseller too but Terminator now free and SonyEricsson Cooler 10 is already cracked we $ beging loss

i hope div can upgrade real dongle to 'really total sonyericssion tool'
like imei change , read flash ,write empty board, to attack clone dongle

Invisible

04-04-2003, 17:24

hi,

well, I don´t belive in miracles like flash reading, imei changing or writing empty boards, I will be happy if just get support for new phones like T66 and so...

best regards
Invisible

PS: some frited chineese dongle will be funny

denn

04-04-2003, 17:31

If it's a classic goldcard (pic16f84 and eeprom 24c16 it no problem to read it even if it's protected. you can see it on 100 of sites. just see under satelite TV

Invisible

04-04-2003, 17:44

hi,

@denn: this hand been told before, if goldcard there is 3 ways to get code:

-invasive attack: no comment
-power glitch: not working, card goes sleep with vcc peaks
-power strees: well, perhaps you would like to power strees your card..?, I use mine for work :D

best regards
Invisible

denn

04-04-2003, 18:14

or use an old programmer.......

I use an old milinium programmer to read protected card..
all new programmers destroy the card information but when i use my *** old milinium put in the card and then open the old goldwafer prg. the first thing it does, is read the card and i got all the information i need... if i do it other ways it destroy the information...

I got this adwise, it worked for me, now you can have it as well..

Invisible

04-04-2003, 18:24

hi,

sure, old milenium have bypass Code Protect built in,:D
c´mon people, read what you write twice,

best regards
Invisible

PS: I have power glitch the card and still working fine, no detroy of any class

PhantomGSM

04-04-2003, 19:27

can someone read their card then please ?

;)

PhantomGSM

04-04-2003, 19:56

btw i have just ordered a DIV flasher as i can't be bothered waiting on ppl releasing it free....... if someone does happen to release it, i will just re-sell the fecking thing to someone else :)

A lot of ppl are in similiar situation atm not knowing to buy DIV or not (a lot of money). This is down to either the chance you buy one and its a clone :( or the software is released free on the net it makes buying one pointless for anyone that doesn't need support (me included most of the time....face it most of us have bought the cheap dct4 flasher ! right ? well most of time price effects your decision to buy a product especially as most ppl aren't interested in support.

Regards

legija

04-04-2003, 23:18

Yes, of course that was deliberate. First, Zulea released Terminator. After few weeks, guys from Serbia - Sale and Skoker, cracked his stupid dongle, and released their own terminator.
Second, zulea implemented "4 locks" bug, to screw up Skoker . . .
They released "super clip" and proved this "4 locks" bug was only Zulea's revenge :D
And, you know what hapened after that. So, my opinion is, that Zulea iz bigest cheater in this world, he ****e.d up his own customeres . . . .

Originally posted by daloser

@legja
4 locks was deliberate ? can you tell us more ?

BR [/B]

PhantomGSM

04-05-2003, 00:56

well nothing like shooting his own foot i suppose lol

4 Locks seems like a lot of hassle just to make sure that he was "THE" only seller of his work....perhaps their was enough market for both to have continued to sell the products?

BR

jboy

04-05-2003, 01:53

Originally posted by Quang Thao
@cmk
No it is true. It is 12C509A in small size. I open glue and see it is 12C509A. It not a small smarcard.
@ DIV
yes you much make your soft with protect bester than.
Because I don't known and I buy 1 this dongle. They say it is come from you. Because at now all is the same and I buy. When I open I see that. I take picture and post here for all to see what is it.
best regards

Hi,
send your dongle to DIV, Hi will send you his dongle (as he said).
Both of you have good thing from this exchange.
You will have original dongle with future support, and DIV can study clone dongle to make better protection for his software.

bRk@

04-07-2003, 00:28

or ...

like here in Serbia,
where people dont have enough money to survive,
use SE Cooler, read codes, and flash 'default' phones
like t39, t65, r600 and some t68

come on people,
all of this story is a f***ing CRAP !

Zulea made DIV donge and SW,
he swear that its UNBREAKABLE, blah blah...

NOTHING is unbreakable,
and all of that CRAPPY protection is in PIC,
all other job is done by SW, even little kid can see that.

All needed for making standalone SW that uses
only Terminator BOX is already PUBLISHED...

Box only do Boot Bypass
All other job... done by SW.

And PIC's inside CLONED chinese boxes
are security bypass for SW.
Come on, Schlumberger JAVA cards cannot be hacked so easy...

US goverment is not so stupid to put some DOD certificate
on something that can be hacked in few months.

if u start thinking, u'll see that Schlumberger cards
are only used as a brand name security inside DIV
so if u mean to crack it, u'll start thinking
"WOW, i can never crack this, it's a damn DOD crypto module"

but ...
when u already have all u need
- boot bypass routines inside LPT interface
- DIV software to rip out flash routines

what else u need ?

what u think that SE Cooler Software is ?

well, le me tell ya

it's DIV sw... with ripped protection, and it doesnt
need any Schlumberger card ...

earlier versions used tricks and code segments from
older DIV's SW ... new versions use some newer code
and also work with T100 and R600...

Zulea SW was always easy for decompiling and
rebuilding... as you can see.

and look at it from personal point of view, like me
if u live in cheap country, with expensive life
and really need to have SonyEric SW to work with,
to survive, what should you do ?
give a 300$ for DIV ???
or give 85$ for Cooler ?

of course ... i already gave 85$ for Cooler
and works great with Chinese Terminator dongle
no killed phones, no 4 closed locks.

and about mr. Zulea,
old and very known "i-sell-you-but-no-support-man"
I think he deserves this,
he cheated a thousands of people
always had a lack of support for his customers
and... i dislike such a people.
since i live in similiar country,
i know such kind of people like him

and... expect more powerfull tools soon
i think newer versions of cooler
will have some eeprom stuff tools
and empty boards filler.

programmers saw how does it work
now you'll se what will come out.

massive greetz to all good people
and even bigger blame to cheaters
and well-known suckers.

Alexandar.

DIV

04-07-2003, 01:50

@ brka:

Here is what you say in 17-Feb-2003:

" i have a TONS of real DIV dongles for 450 Euro
with excellent support
full pack with CD+cables+dongle"

More exactly, check this message (thread):

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&postid=305761#post305761

IT WAS YOUR WORDS!

Now say something totally different ;)

And few small questions:
- if there is programmers so good, WHY not write own software with own hardware, and use Terminator/DIV hardware and software (let's say cracked)?
- WHY all attempts to crack/clone was made on DIV software and/or hardware?
- WHY nobody try to crack others similar software (Softmobile, Unlocking, ...)?
And don't say to me that others is not crackable (clonable), because use only one PIC microcontroller inside ;)

Let me guess an answer: because DIV software/hardware WAS and STILL IS the BEST product on the market, with the BEST support.

If you have another answer, please let me know here.

DIV

P.S.
Brka, go fast and delete/edit your old message ;)

Drug_Store

04-07-2003, 03:49

@bRk@ & @Dimitri & @legija

You have my full support on this... I´m just against expansive prices...

I hope Cooler come out more reliable and with more options.
I´m a Terminator owner and I´m waiting for a sw to flash SE supporting it for months...

@DIV
Not only Div being cracked... Nokia DCT3 was craked, DCT4 was cracked, samsung tools being cracked all the time, Siemens also the same...
So not only Div tried to be cracked.

DIV, I got nothing against you, man... I just think that DIV prices are outrageous.

CyberKareca

04-07-2003, 03:54

Or is the most easyest crackable .....;)

Drug_Store

04-07-2003, 04:00

Originally posted by CyberKareca
Or is the most easyest crackable .....;)

I guess, there isn´t the question of being hard or easy... The question it´s that besides expansive DIV prices, the owner says that his the only one being attacked...

Wich is not true. Even DCT4 calculator it´s being cracked.

DIV

04-07-2003, 10:32

@ drug_store:

You not understand exactly what I want to say.
I'm not talking about software for other kind of mobile phones.
I asked about DIV in comparation with other software and/or hardware for SonyEricsson phones!!

And as I can see, even you use Terminator hardware ;)

And again: WHY?

Because Terminator hardware and/or DIV software IS the BEST tool for SonyEricsson phones available now on the market!

Hope you understand me now.

Yes, DCT4 calculator was cracked because was the BEST tool for unlocking Nokia phones!

DIV

adv

04-07-2003, 10:46

Originally posted by Drug_Store

DIV, I got nothing against you, man... I just think that DIV prices are outrageous. [/B]

@Drug_Store

You think that ~250$ is a outrageous price? I guess that you flash phones for your customers free! Some ppl pay over 1500$ for this and was a reasonable price.
I think now it is a reasonable price for this tool.

At least this is my opinion.
regards

Kima

04-07-2003, 11:37

Originally posted by DIV

Because Terminator hardware and/or DIV software IS the BEST tool for SonyEricsson phones available now on the market!
DIV

Manole...You are full of sh.hh.ii.t.s...:)
Unlocking soft is much better then yours..(your Borthers)...And you know it...So..
Give support to your clients or SHUT UP..:cool:
P.S..About your support etc...I know VERY well...
And just to mention that you still owe me money...
And you are still cheater...Just for info...
Have a nice day...

Invisible

04-07-2003, 12:15

hi,

I think we had talked for long and things are realy clear,
now is time to shut up our mouths and wait new updated version for Div. Things will talk by itself then,

best regards
Invisible

balivo

04-07-2003, 12:24

For @DIV !!!

Read this, Please!!!!

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79697

You have solution or support ???!!!

Best Regards!!!

uu1dx

04-07-2003, 13:10

Finally what we got? :-)

Sony Ericson Flasher Unlocker

Aviable Phones:

R520,T39,T65,T68,T200,T300,A3618,R600,A2618,A2628, A2218z,T20,T29

Dongle+Cable+Software Price 99,-euro+Dhl

Info: urgup@gmx.net

heh... my 300 usd gone to hell :-(

BLIDA

04-07-2003, 15:16

@DIV
better for you is release new version for div that support repair empty board.
i think this is the best support from you to our client.

Drug_Store

04-07-2003, 15:45

Originally posted by DIV
@ drug_store:

You not understand exactly what I want to say.
I'm not talking about software for other kind of mobile phones.
I asked about DIV in comparation with other software and/or hardware for SonyEricsson phones!!

And as I can see, even you use Terminator hardware ;)

And again: WHY?

Because Terminator hardware and/or DIV software IS the BEST tool for SonyEricsson phones available now on the market!

Hope you understand me now.

Yes, DCT4 calculator was cracked because was the BEST tool for unlocking Nokia phones!

DIV

I´m sorry DIV, but understand what you say... And you say that only software got cracked on other brands???? That´s not true... As I already told you and you know really well, DCT3 hard and software got cracked, DCT4 hard and software got cracked, Siemens Maxim dongles and map creators, got cracked... and many, many other tools...

Yes I own very proudly a terminator, but I bought it after being cracked... Before was like DIV, expansive...
And where´s support for Terminator now????
And he get 4locks closed, what´s your support to them?

And you say it´s the best... don´t say that... say it´s the only tool use on SE phone.
Now that appears someone that can compete with you, you threat us that you make sw to kill phones and other things.
If your so good, this competion won´t affect you...

Div, as I said before, I got nothing against you...

Drug_Store

04-07-2003, 15:50

Originally posted by adv
@Drug_Store

You think that ~250$ is a outrageous price? I guess that you flash phones for your customers free! Some ppl pay over 1500$ for this and was a reasonable price.
I think now it is a reasonable price for this tool.

At least this is my opinion.
regards

I don´t know where you live, but here in europe 300€, it´s some money...

Maybe for you (rich boy) it´s nothing...

Here we can 20€ for each repairment... If we make to expansive, the clients prefer to buy new phones (from Nokia, for example)

Maybe reasonable for you, but not for a lot of people, or they won´t need to crack it.

DIV

04-07-2003, 16:58

Originally posted by blida
@DIV
better for you is release new version for div that support repair empty board.
i think this is the best support from you to our client.

Best joke of the year ;)
Anyway, if there is so other good products with so good support,
wait from this guys this support.
DIV dongles will NEVER be updated for make empty boards phone!

DIV

04-07-2003, 17:03

@ Drug_store:

If you think 200-300$ is too much, I sugest you ALLWAYS wait and use free cracked software. But I hope you (and many others who think same) will not start cry here and asking for help to repair damaged phones (of your customers) using this software. And think, one T68i have this price (200-300$).

So, I wish you good luck in using cheap or free cracked software. Also I hope you will receive FREE support for this ZERO $ stuff ;)

Regards,
DIV

Invisible

04-07-2003, 17:16

hi,

"DIV dongles will NEVER be updated for make empty boards phone!"
well Zulea, when software will be updated for new T66 and T600?,
I think this is the only important question for Div owners,
the rest are just stories

best regards
Invisible

xxxpaga

04-07-2003, 17:57

@DIV

Please check Private Messages!

uu1dx

04-07-2003, 19:40

Yep, need update for new phones and ****ing 3618 userlock removing :-((((
@ DIV: You said " If you think 200-300$ is too much, I sugest you ALLWAYS wait and use free cracked software. "

I paid $300, and get only $150 for some unlocked SE phones... After that sw is cracked and all going to no support in the future. And I know guy who paid $300 for DIV sw only 10 days ago... So hope you understand what I mean - I can't even get the money I paid back... :-( And also no support and no updates... That's a reason why ppl here so angry.

DIV

04-07-2003, 19:52

Originally posted by xxxpaga
@DIV

Please check Private Messages!

@ xxxpaga:
You have mail!

DIV

Drug_Store

04-07-2003, 21:21

Originally posted by DIV
@ Drug_store:

If you think 200-300$ is too much, I sugest you ALLWAYS wait and use free cracked software. But I hope you (and many others who think same) will not start cry here and asking for help to repair damaged phones (of your customers) using this software. And think, one T68i have this price (200-300$).

So, I wish you good luck in using cheap or free cracked software. Also I hope you will receive FREE support for this ZERO $ stuff ;)

Regards,
DIV

Believe I will wait... Like I said, I see same thing happening with terminator.
So let´s wait for this cracked DIV and see.

Or you low your prices or make something new on your software, to make your buyers keep believing that cracked won´t do the same as your new software.

Good luck, and thanks for the waiting advice.

cmk

04-07-2003, 21:41

waiting ....................zulea new update

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

bongowireless

04-08-2003, 10:56

Hello, I am kind of new here but I spend one hour reading this entire thread. I also own DIV dongle and I purchase from authorized reseller and have smart card inside. I have some mixed feelings and I know that many people do not like DIV because they say he is cheater. I do not know Zulea, nor have I have emailed him or spoke with him, I have have read many posts about him.

I just don't understand why so many people try so hard to crack everyone elses cracking software. Can't you just be content with the software you have, I read a few posts back that in Europe 300 euros is alot of money....stop your crying, if your country is so poor then why everyone have expensive cell phones, sell your phones and buy food and clothes and stand on street corner and ask for money, stop whining. 300 euros is nothing, people in your country buy P800 and another just in case they loose the first one. 300 eiros is nothing compared to what you will get back, you are dealers for ***'s sake and snap out of it, you will make this money back in no time. If you buy DIV for 300 euros and only make 150 euros, brother you are in the wrong business. Get a job in factory, do construction work in hot sun for 12 hour day or sit in booth at parkimg lot and make change all day and see what work is really about. What we do is easy brother, make money sitting on our asses attatching a cable to a phone and you use your mouse to click some buttons and collect money, wow I cannot sleep at night because this is such hard work with no money to be made......what could be easier. The time you spend in here trying to crack software or try to get free software you could spend this time making money unlocking and flashing your customers phones.

Ok, so you hate DIV but I can see you ALL use his software whether it's cracked or not. Yes, maybe he is not the only author for SE but everyone knows he can make the best and like he says go get your free, cracked software but you all end up coming back crying for help to fix your phone, here in my country if I kill one, (1), SE T68i it is the the same price as DIV dongle so you people are fools. You are in phone business, this is your main source of income, you do this for a living, then buy proper software from authourized dealers and get support. This is not hobby, if you do this for hobby then get your free software but please don't come in here crying as I will have no kleenex for you to wipe your nose.

DIV, Dejan, Maxim, Victor, etc. etc are born with something that we do not have, knowledge and know how to hack a phone, if we knew how we would do it ourselves but these guys work hard and they know that it is only time before their software will be cracked so they want to get as much money from their software as fast as they can, do you blame them? Bill Gates has a gift but everyone hate him too and constantly try to hack him, why, becuase only one reason, to be a hero. Walk in DIV's ***** and have his brain for one week and you will think different. Most everyone in here are whiners and like DIV say, if their are other authors that can write better than him...lets see it!!!! Name of author is nothing to me, my money goes to best software so if DIV, MAXIM, DEJAN, etc. etc. makes the best, then that's where my money goes, they deserve it brothers, like I said you complian everyweek in here but you all use their software whether cracked or not. Why is thier so much hatered? Do you hate AlexGSM because he is smart and unlock Motorola but you use all his clip, do you hate Max, well, I see you use his Siemens dongles, or do you hate DIV because he can hack Sony Ericsson but you all got it 6.2. You are hyporcrites, you are like pople who are relgious, go to church and praise your G.O.D and show everyone how pure you are but then go home and drink, smoke weed, steal, lie and sleep with many women. Please spare me!!!

You guys that want free software I am here to say put a rubberband around your head and snap out of it!!! Get a life!, If you want to hack someones work so you can be a hero, go for it but I am really sick of the guys that buy cracked software for almost the same price as the orginal and come in hear looking for support.

Also, people complain that DIV make Terminator 4 locks, can you blame him? What would you do if it your software cracked, you think these guys just sit down and write this software in a couple of nights, it takes time brothers and they deserve the money they get because they know it usual is short lived until they make something new. Do you think when Bill Gates tries to find ways to make Windows he tries to make it more difficult not to copy, of course he does, he is not dummies like you, do you think DIV is any different? Wake up!!! Everyone should know better by now that unlocking software is like going to the Casino, you take a gamble, a risk, that's how it is....so to your homework, research and find out what is best for long term, not free so it will f**k up your phone.

All I know is when you find a rock to hammer a nail the rock will slip and bend the nail, buy a hammer and the nail will go in freely with no trouble...see my point, free is not always good brothers. Jealously is rampant in here, don't be jealous my friends, these people have a gift, let them do what they do best. Did it ever occur to you that maybe if we didn't try to crack his software he would sell it cheaper? Did you buy your house? Do you buy your clothers? Did you buy your computer? Yes you buy these things because you cannot make them yourselves, you need the right people with the knowledge to make them. Not everyone can make software like Bill Gates, not everyone can sing like Celine Dion, not everyone can paint like Michael Angelo but anyonecan sit behind a computer and unlock & flash a phone, even a baby but to make the program to unlock it takes skill brother.

I will say yes, I do agree sometimes the support is not always there when you want it but don't forget guys, DIV, Maxim, Victor, Dejan, etc. they are only one man and only one man can only do so much, they cannot make everybody happy all at once. So don't be angry because you do not get a response to your post after one hour because I am sure they are busy and try to answer all. They need time to develope new software and upgrades not by spending their time coming in here answering stupid questions to all the HATE they get. Sometimes you should take a step back and see what they can accomplish. If you hate DIV or any other author that can write software then don't use their software and complain and certainly do NOT come in here to complain and cry over free or ripped off software that you obtained somewhere else, we don't want to hear it.

Just be content and happy you are making money from your software, 300-400-500 euors is not a lot of money, I would pay a 1000 euros, (and I have spent way more), to know I will get good product, good support and free upgrades, not like having to worry for the next crack, what a waste of time. I think some people like to crack for the challenge....want a challenge? Write a software program yourself....make it better than DIV 6.2, believe me I will buy it. Don't be like arseholes who are smart and make viruses....use your brain to benefit for the good of ALL.

Don't be children, this is real world and all is about making money but lets try to be happy, DIV is making good product and I am sure he is working hard to protect his investment, you would do the same but you don't because you do not have his brain in your head. Think twice, be smart and concentrate on how you can make more customers come to you and spend their money with you instead of wasting everyones valuable time.

Kevin Haffenden
kevin@bongowireless.com

Invisible

04-08-2003, 11:35

hi,

well, I started to read your reply but at first quarter I get borred,
perhaps you are good in unlock bussiness (I sincerely happy for you but I don´t care), I am just asking for the promissed support for T66 & T600, I only make a simple question: when?,
but as everybody can see even this simple question had not been solved:D
This thread is a time loose, but at last I get clear one thing,
I will look in my trash for update, perhaps there will be a dongle too...:D :D

best regards
Invisible

PS: keep your private life for yourself

bongowireless

04-08-2003, 11:48

No need to wait my friend, you can stop your crying now.

http://www.completegsm.com/index.php?cat=setool

P.S. My private life is only exposed to my friends and family just here I can express my opinion which I am respectfully free to do so.

Invisible

04-08-2003, 12:09

hi,

"No need to wait my friend, you can stop your crying now"

I am not crying, did I say that, do you think that?,
no, that crap dongle is not enought to cry for:D :D

"http://www.xxxx.com/index.php?cat=setool"

what kind of sh*t is this?, adverticing in saler purchase please,
this is not DIV and has nothing to do with DIV, right?

About your private life, look your previous post, there is enought data to make your profile, well I dont care.

What I can see: you, wannabie, came here and start to blame all members arround pretending you are right and Zulea product is awesome, we are guilty because we ask for something promissed (read again thread, is promissed in this same thread!).
I will tell you something, for me smell like both you were friends or some kind bussiness together, right?, sure I am not so wrong.

Invisible

bongowireless

04-08-2003, 12:28

You say crap dongle but I see you buy DIV and you use DIV and you hope for new updates from DIV....if so crap why did you buy/use it? Why not wait for someone else to make solution. Believe me sir, these are not only 2 models in the whole world to be concened about, many new models coming and you will concentrate on them, making them all your time to them.

No need to get upset brother, we are all in same business. I am not here to make enimies. I am not advertising, I live on other side of world from you and DIV. He does not know me and I do not know him.

I see you have much time on your hands to see my other posts yet not care enough to read my current ones. I do not care about your posts either, nor do not care to get into a p.i.s.s.i.n.g match with you, I have no time.

Have paitence my friend, if DIV say DIV 6.3 will have T66/T600 support, I believe him. Either way what choice do you have?
Cheers :)

Invisible

04-08-2003, 13:15

hi,

I say "crap" meaning is just a small&cheap stuff not to cry for, not meaning "crap" like a bad product.
There are only 2 serious choices, div and smart tool, why does I have this one, well, this one came first, I don´t need to wait for anybody make solution, I already have one.
well I have not so much time but is not your bussiness, so..,
about paitence, I think all div users had been waiting for so long,
too much!, I think a clear answer will help everybody, if no more support just everybody can choose his way, if any support just tell when, is as easy as a child could do it,

best regards
Invisible

DIV

04-08-2003, 13:49

Hi,

To protect all real users of DIV software, next update will need new SmartCard inside dongle. And YES, the update will support all missing things (T66, T600, T610, user lock on T100, A3618).

All users who buyed their DIV dongles from my official resellers will be able to exchange theirs SmartCards for a really verry small price (it will be arround 20-30$, this to cover hardware and postal taxes from me to resellers).

Also postal taxes to/from official resellers will be payed by end customers.

Sorry, but this is the only way to protect real customers against 'chinese invasion' and 'street corner baby unlockers'.

Anybody who not agree with this is in wrong place of this business and (my personal opinion) must change to another kind of work (buildings, car washing, ...).

And don't be angry on my 'tone' here, but this is the reality ...

DIV

roki

04-08-2003, 15:02

Invisible

04-08-2003, 15:11

@roki:

30$ are for smartcard shipping
xxx$ are for dhl or whatever,

price for deliver that is same for new and old customers, or are you getting discount on dhl for being 'old' DIV customer?,

best regards
Invisible

PS: I think DIV offer is reasonable,

spear

04-08-2003, 15:21

how much it will cost to end customers mr DIV
i must pay 30 usd for smart card new one and another 60 -70 usd for dhl this will be 100 usd i have two dongles from u this will be 130-140 usd .When i pay this last year price was 1xxx $
why u do this to your customers every time with every soft
i think its not ok how much copies did u sell of this soft?
So everybody will get update for 30 usd old customers who pay 1xxx usd and new ones which they pay 250 -300 usd i think this is not ok

...this is the only way to protect real customers against 'chinese invasion' and 'street corner baby unlockers'.
Anybody who not agree with this is in wrong place of this business and (my personal opinion) must change to another kind of work (buildings, car washing, ...).

DIV

roki

04-08-2003, 15:25

i agree with this

is there any posibility to make update smart cards from remote or make some prog with some kind of protection which will use only original smart cards inside dongle to make update to not spend money and time?

spear

04-08-2003, 15:30

roki

04-08-2003, 15:36

well then
please give to me details to bye this
where to send my old card and how much i must send

spear

04-08-2003, 15:40

contact with your dongle supplier

DIV

04-08-2003, 15:45

Originally posted by roki
how much it will cost to end customers mr DIV
i must pay 30 usd for smart card new one and another 60 -70 usd for dhl this will be 100 usd i have two dongles from u this will be 130-140 usd .When i pay this last year price was 1xxx $
why u do this to your customers every time with every soft
i think its not ok how much copies did u sell of this soft?
So everybody will get update for 30 usd old customers who pay 1xxx usd and new ones which they pay 250 -300 usd i think this is not ok

Can you suggest a better way to do?
But remember, I have to give support to ALL real customers (who buy via official resellers ORIGINAL dongles). Yes, some of customers paid 1xxx $, BUT had the software 2-3 months BEFORE the ones who payed 250-300 !! I will repeat here: if you note recovered your investment (in 2-3 months) it's time to think to change your business!!

Do you want an update who will work with any chinese clone (you said you payed 1xxx $ last year)?
Do you think I'm getting any proffit from 20-30$?
This ammount will be for: new cards hardware and postal taxes from me to resellers.

I'm ready for listening any ideas!
The ONLY main target is:
how to protect real customers against new ones using 'chinese crap'

DIV

roki

04-08-2003, 15:56

i say ok this is ok because this is only way to protect your customers
but i have still one problem
i have bye this from KIMA then he was reseler now its not
how to get this card now?????
and tell me the fastest way to get this card because i have few xx
t66 which they wait for unlock and change lang please

Drug_Store

04-08-2003, 16:10

You´re all so funny...

Do as you want... Keep throwing away money and buy div 6.3... LOL

Good luck

Bigbrothers2000

04-08-2003, 17:23

Originally posted by Drug_Store
You´re all so funny...

Do as you want... Keep throwing away money and buy div 6.3... LOL

Good luck

Yes but everybody have a brain to buy or not
it is not my money or your money,,
there is freedom ,
and meself i will buy ,,,if i give 300 for dongle why not 30 more.
i flash 2 phones and i get my 30 so easy it is

best regards

uu1dx

04-08-2003, 17:47

2 DIV: I have a dongle bought here in Ukraine. It has white card inside. How to ensure it is original? :-))))

Can I contact privately to U to get info on this?

crusher

04-08-2003, 20:13

bongowireless you are *******.
express your thanks to mods so that I can NOT really express my opinion here, because I suppose none of the board rules would be respected.

Bill Gates as *THE* programmer? :) I don't think you've born with your PC in your hands. Perhaps you ran a farm or something similar.

regards to all

Drug_Store

04-08-2003, 21:49

Originally posted by Bigbrothers2000
Yes but everybody have a brain to buy or not
it is not my money or your money,,
there is freedom ,
and meself i will buy ,,,if i give 300 for dongle why not 30 more.
i flash 2 phones and i get my 30 so easy it is

best regards

I gave my opinion, if you understood it as an order, your problem...

bongowireless

04-08-2003, 22:12

@crusher

Sticks & stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me!!!

You have your opinion, respectfully, but doesn't matter if Bill Gates not program anymore he still made Microsoft and is laughing all the way to the bank while you are making nickle and dimes unlocking/flashing phones using Bill's OS to run your computer...who is the smart one here my friend? You complain complain, and complain but you use Windows, you use DIV, please, you use it because it works and works pretty dam good!!!

Jealously will get you nowhere!!!

As for new card, I will buy for sure, I will be sure to unlock one T66/T600 and will make this $30.00 back, at least I will have some comfort to know that some 12 year old with his news paper delivery money will not buy Chinese rip off and undercut my price by half or even worse for free. If you want something to complain about look at DCT-4 calcuator dongle, now there's something that really screwed up the market.

Some of you should really think of new career!

bRk@

04-08-2003, 22:42

ok,

here's my FINAL opinion

@drug_STORE
you're enough on gsm market to see waht's happening
all my respect goes tou you for your oppinion

@zulea
there are few things about you and your products that you CANT BEAT
- ALL of your softwares were cracked (or 99%)
- you always make Ericsson SW first (people in ericsson, buying info's)
- Support is a DREAM of all your's customers
and worst thing
WHEN SOMEBODY BUY YOUR PRODUCT,
BETTER DO A SUICIDE than think about
using that sw/hw with no pain in the head

what does it mean?
well... if I bought your product, and initially gave ~1000 Euro
why should i think that I need to add every few months
some XXX Euro's because of protection change ans other crap things ?
i want to have product that have good support
and i want all new models supported as soon as they are released... t66, t600, p800 etc.

@ALL
Service where I and my friend D****** worked
got DIV dongle in compensation for some amount of phones
we used it few weeks... then came 100 locked R600 phones
all were 00w38 made... when connected to div,
display ongly showed green or red light
no connection to dongle, cannot be unlocked...

AND WHAT ? it's OK?
i wrote all possible mails to all possible resellers
to TRY to establish contact with you to make an update for that...
but guess what...
answer was... ZULEA IS NOT ANSWERING ...
(like thousand times in past, when SW support is the case)

and what next...

we had to buy TERMINATOR Unlocker from Sale (softmobile.net)
which succesfully unlocked all 100 pieces of R600...
and i got it in 2 days, via SpeedMail service
and it's price was 1/4 of DIV dongle...
and for the rest of the money (up to 1000Euro)
I had an offer to buy Original EMMA2 kit with all cables and dongles.

after all... Terminator Dongle got better support
so I get flashing of all models and unlocking of all models.

few days after all of that, I sold DIV dongle
to some people who had 200 t39 phones to flash...
poor them, they didnt knew what they bought... ccc

so,

keep acting like an emperor...
you know what happened to all emperors.

and... YES, i bought DIV dongle, just to prove
my thoughts that it is a crap.

and chinese dongles are the same crap,
when you copy a crap, what you get?
crap...

as I wrote before,
dont try to play a role of "Innocent Merry"
I know YOU and all people LIKE YOU.
as I said, i live in a country where
the people are even worst than in Romania.
remember, we're even poor than Romanians
and when the nation is poor, people are animals,
cheaters, stealers etc.
(my Luck was that i'm a cool guy and dislike all of that)

dont try to prove you're the greatest,
only ONE mistake is enough to prove them you're the WORST.
changing nicknames cant change YOU.

sorry if all of this was painfull,
but... reality hurts sometimes.

I wish you all the best
and dont get angry on me and all others
it's all your fault.

dont give ANYTHING for free, just give ALL you promised.

regards,
Alexandar.

roki

04-08-2003, 23:00

roki

04-09-2003, 09:27

DELETED....

SAME POST AS ABOVE......

Chuk

04-09-2003, 20:06

DIV, Now I know who are You.....

bluelights

04-09-2003, 20:54

well well

i think that there needs to be some increased customer service now, for all original people who bought original div.... sureley mr DIV you can release your updated new soft version, after all we need to flash p800 now not just to unlock... also why do we still se "bypass boot authority" i dont like this, can we see some better soft from you please,

about the chinese dongle. surely you can work out some easier way to change or update your protection for your DIV software, i dont see why we must wait just becuase someone has cloned your soft.......

i only wish there was better support for div, im even considering giving up on div and getting emma 2, more exp but at least support is from Ericsson :))))))

this is a very messy situation, it shows signs of weakness and i think div soft will crumble

Cables

04-09-2003, 21:19

If a DIV official re-seller sold you a cloned DIV dongle (that means
no 'White' or 'Gold' card inside) but said that is original,
you just contact that re-seller for 'exchange' an original one by
paying that 'Upgrade' charge. He should know what he needs
(must) to do.
Otherwise, post his name on the Forum and report to DIV....
Cables
cablescn@yahoo.com.cn
www.griffinflasher.com

kenichi

04-09-2003, 21:24

Originally posted by Cables
If a DIV official re-seller sold you a cloned DIV dongle (that means
no 'White' or 'Gold' card inside) but said that is original,
you just contact that re-seller for 'exchange' an original one by
paying that 'Upgrade' charge. He should know what he needs
(must) to do.
Otherwise, post his name on the Forum and report to DIV....
Cables
cablescn@yahoo.com.cn
www.griffinflasher.com

White or GOLDCARD...... an elegant way to tell everybody the reason because DIV was cracked, and the need of a new card....

kenichi

04-09-2003, 21:29

Originally posted by bluelights
...also why do we still se "bypass boot authority"... [/B]

JUST one thing. Access to bootstrap is allways bypassing security, only EMMA2 can calculate the auth to access this mode.

DIV (and TERMINATOR) makes a brute force attack wich explain was posted here some time ago..... Anyone remember?

WHY bypass take longer (2 me) with DIV and shorter with Terminator?

pez8210

04-09-2003, 21:56

Yes mr Div you lie as hell

What about your super system for update Java applets?

It´s very clear that you know, that there are two types of dongles with different smartcards one with e-gate and the others with goldcards or something like this and now your solution is change all the cards.

:mad:

BECAUSE YOU SOLD DONGLES WITH THESE TWO TYPES OF CARDS FOR WIN MORE MONEY AND NOW YOU CAN´T UPDATE ANYTHING VIA REMOTE IN A GOLDWAFER

crusher

04-09-2003, 22:00

for me it's reversed.
DIV card contains - as I noticed - currently only some boot key pairs :))
seeming like Terminator does the old method - maxxnskk's thingy - and DIV 6.2 uses some other trick.
PROBABLY - it's only MY opinion - DIV sends the same 64-byte challenge, and it has (stored on card) ALL 64-byte keys for a wide (NOT ALL) range of 3-byte responses precalculated probably with EMMA :)
and it needs to try only till it gets a suitable response for the challenge.
That has to be the story, or am I wrong, Mr. DIV? :)
My personal opinion (I HAVE DIV and did NOT steal it... no need to argue) is, DIV should release 6.3 ASAP to let your customers earn some more money before it will be available freely.
Taking unnecessary protections is blind thinking IMHO.
Disputes are welcome :)

regards

crusher

04-09-2003, 22:08

do you need P800 and T600 support?
if anyone can offer me such phones (only in disabled/unrepairable condition - the most important thing is that it should SWITCH ON) for some cheap, contact me please.
yes, it's ok to me without PA and so on, if you are **** :)

crusher

04-09-2003, 22:25

:bongowireless

first of all, I should admit I was not in best mood yesterday and should say sorry.
though I still keep my opinion about your post.
I am NOT unlocking phones, NOR upgrading them for living. Surely I take some cash for it sometimes, but other people spend more time on hobbies than I spend on these things.
Yes, you are also right, I also USE MS OS, but it is considered as CRAP by me - and I am NOT the type who spend a single cent for CRAP. is it clear? :)
Also I don't know what an average yearly salary is at you, but here is - as declared by the government based on 2002 data and including EVERY (accounted) income is 6127.80 USD (calculated using today's rates).
What I want to express is EVERYONE - even the poorest - WILL give money for VALUABLE things, whereas neither DIV nor Windows is considered such.
Yeah, the truth is - no things are on the market which WORTH the amount they COST. and this has NOTHING to do with PRICES - rather with QUALITY.

regards

pig

04-10-2003, 00:28

i see that div is up to his old tricks.. some F**ker ripped of his div
so now he wants to rip his customers of for more money.....

if you was so good you prick.. why did you not make a update for your cards... 30 dollars for a card that cost 10 if you buy plenty of them.........

it wont be long before your **** is ripped again and again.....

stay away from this romanian F**ker,, someone is going to come over there and see you soon,,,,,,, :)

pez8210

04-10-2003, 23:37

Tested 1000%

Mostly Of Dongles have inside SIMPLY SMARTCARD With At90S8515A and e2p 24LC256

Where are your SCHLUMBERGER CARDS? or maybe the price of simply smartcards it´s better to you for win more money.

You are a dirty lier and I´m very agree with Brk

Give an answer if you can but don´t say more lies because we aren´t stupids and of course you aren´t so clever as you think

May be in your next project you learn a little of electronics....

chris_ua

04-11-2003, 00:34

Hi!

So, since during last few days all smartcards in our dongles lost their ability to be upgraded remotely :) Mr. DIV gave us an "excellent" solution: for a small amount of $30 he will replace (reprogram?) our cards to support newest updates. But whom he tries to protect by this? His customers or himself? I'm sure he will continue to sell dongles with new cards for new, higher prices, as there will be a new software for them.
And what will we have from this?
1. We should WAIT until the new update and new smartcards (or simcard hex) to be ready.
2. Then we will WAIT for the new cards to reach our resellers and they start to replace them (would they like to do it for free, or will add some bucks to the initial amount of $30?).
3. Then we will have to remove the smartcards from our dongles and send them to our resellers. Please note, that from this point we will loose the ability to unlock/flash ANY SE phone untill the new card arrives.
a) We will have to prepare additional $100 for shipment, WAIT until the old card arrives to the reseller.
b) WAIT the reseller to ship a replacement card
c) WAIT the card to arrive at us.
From this point we regain the ability to use our dongle again.

What do you think how much time will take positions a) thru c)? It easily can take up to a month. How much money (and possibly customers) do we loose during this time?

So, as for me and with these conditions I will NOT upgrade unless I will have a free tool to do the basic models during upgrade period. But most probably I will buy another solution for SE phones. If it turns out to be better than DIV, I will sell my DIV without upgrade. If not, I will upgrade the card and then sell the another solution.

And so the owners of clone dongles have just what they paid for (as they knew there will be no upgrades for them), but the owners of original stuff will have a lot of headache of this upgrade, so who's situation is better???

ppl

04-11-2003, 00:49

I thing cause everybody here have freedom to buy or not Zulea`s team software.If you want-buy,if you not-make yourself Terminator or wait to free revision of Div-may be soon-who know?
Ok there have one true-to this moment in the market no have better product may-be exept EMMA2 but EMMA is not solution for everyone.It`s a shame for all programers here-no one make some diferent-all make crack`s of Zulea products with some little modifications.I`m not a mr.Zulea frend,and I don`t like it too-but where is all old "Ericsson" programers? So PLEASE some of moderators here-close this stupid topic.
WBR:
PPL

Invisible

04-11-2003, 12:06

hi,

why should this topic be closed?, I think that chris_ua or others are right, why we should lost phones (and money) and pay for update?, if someone fault is Div that send dongles with goldcard inside instread of schulmberger.
Offcourse this is easy way, reprogram gold cards, but not better one (at last for customers),

best regards
Invisible

LeONaRd

04-11-2003, 12:37

Hi.

Gobi sells an interesting product. It costs 150$. Anybody has experience about this dongle ?

Here are some details: http://www.gsmtools.ro/software/erictt.html

Alinus

04-11-2003, 14:44

yes...
i'm using it without problems

Brka

04-12-2003, 21:41

@pez8210 ant all others

maybe next answer from Zulea will be
"currently on vacation"
or... "he's in hospital" or ...

i remember one situation few years ago
when I received email from zulea
asking me to send him a copy of Trium (old one)
flasher and flash files for Astral/Galaxy and Geo...
Only few ppl except service centers had it,
and my copy was fully working, flashing phones.
(we used it to make first trium unlocker)
in exchange he offered me few Nokia Unlock boxes
(price was then about 10000 $ ...)
so, I was friendly guy, like now I am...
and sent him full pack.

and... i never got reply back from zulea
I also wrote him few emails... nothing :)

now you see just a small part of
some tricks that mr. zulea is using...

and mr. Zulea, i will never forget your BULLS**T
about exchange and fair cooperation.

I dont want to spend just a single penny/cent
talking about things happening again and again
and i'm sick watching all of this crap.

I'm leaving this business NOW,
and in future, i'll do it just like hobby, not primary job.

happy cheating,
happy unlocking,
happy phone killing
and...

HAPPY CRACKING of ZULEA's SW FOREVER.

see you all... sometimes and somewhere.

regards,
Aleksandar

XzZ

04-12-2003, 22:28

@brka
Gsm-Kima said many time but ppl not listen him..
him to be tired of repeating
:cool: :rolleyes:

bongowireless

04-13-2003, 07:40

@crusher

No need to apologize you have an opinion and respected but thank you all the same. We all have bad days.

MS OS & DIV may be CRAP and I do agree and may be over priced at times but if it is the only thing available that works then what is other solution? It is a shame that there are not other solutions out there....question was asked earlier, where are all the programmers?

Like I said I would gladly buy other software but right now and at the moment DIV offer best solution, whether or not it is crap, it is the best crap out there for now.

I appeal to all programmers, please make a program that is not junk, like crushers says, even the poor will buy quality.

Peace.

LeONaRd

04-13-2003, 09:29

@bongowireless

I have found an interesting software for SE, check my post a little above plz.

Anyway I have found an additional soft for SE, check this link http://www.gsmunlock.com/equipment/ericssonnew.html .

Btw DIV/Zulea sells unprotected version of div to dealers.

Unprotected FULL SW DIV 6.2
This sw works with old terminator box which HEX+scheme is free. You can protected this sw by yourself for your customers.
$1 000,00

LeO

Kima

04-13-2003, 15:43

Originally posted by bongowireless

MS OS & DIV may be CRAP and I do agree and may be over priced at times but if it is the only thing available that works then what is other solution? It is a shame that there are not other solutions out there....question was asked earlier, where are all the programmers?

Like I said I would gladly buy other software but right now and at the moment DIV offer best solution, whether or not it is crap, it is the best crap out there for now.

I appeal to all programmers, please make a program that is not junk, like crushers says, even the poor will buy quality.

Peace.

Ufff..Man...
Are you BLIND..???????
1000 time better..With full support...etc...:cool:
http://www.gsmkima.com/ericnew.htm
http://www.gsmkima.com/smarter_read_codes.jpg
http://www.gsmkima.com/smarter_flash.jpg
http://www.gsmkima.com/smart_er_about.jpg

Drug_Store

04-13-2003, 15:52

Originally posted by kimagsm
Ufff..Man...
Are you BLIND..???????
1000 time better..With full support...etc...:cool:
http://www.gsmkima.com/ericnew.htm
http://www.gsmkima.com/smarter_read_codes.jpg
http://www.gsmkima.com/smarter_flash.jpg
http://www.gsmkima.com/smart_er_about.jpg

It seems to be a great tool...

But like in my case that already own the dongle, how we can get this software (for example)? Or need to "re"-buy the dongles to get the software?

So if you could sent me just the sw would be great, because already have dongle. Said same thing to Dimitri about Cooler (original), but no asnwer.

Anyway, thanks Kima...

Drug_Store

04-13-2003, 15:53

Please, (mods) delete this post...

Unlockcel

07-01-2003, 22:05

Hello
it excuses my writing I use translator.
I need a solution to be able to unlock the t106 sonyericsson.
T106 non T610 says.
please if somebody knows a solution of the t106.

silvester

07-02-2003, 01:46

Anyway Mr.Div do not be long.
You made your solution simmilar to McDonalds.
Everybody eaten it.
So make update for your really good soft!
Profit,this is not what you will get.
Profit,what people will tell about.
This is gsm business:)

Drug_Store

07-02-2003, 01:58

Originally posted by Unlockcel
Hello
it excuses my writing I use translator.
I need a solution to be able to unlock the t106 sonyericsson.
T106 non T610 says.
please if somebody knows a solution of the t106.

T106 or T610 ?!?!?:eek:

Anyway, I heard that best solution for T610 (and cheaper) is Total Tool 1.90.

Drug_Store

07-02-2003, 02:00

Originally posted by silvester
Anyway Mr.Div do not be long.
You made your solution simmilar to McDonalds.
Everybody eaten it.
So make update for your really good soft!
Profit,this is not what you will get.
Profit,what people will tell about.
This is gsm business:)

Do u know Zulea?
It seems not...

Don´t expect support for Zulea cracked software anymore...

You should know this for a long time now...;)

silvester

07-02-2003, 02:47

Ok.But there is a Burger king,there is a Subway.
Someone must be first.
Think about Mr.Div!

But anyway I am glad,that gsm community has made not only
Blalala,we made real riots:)
So maybe next time well known geniuses will hear voices
of their customers and will follow the rules of our gsmsociety.

Do not criticize!Legalize!:)