About Miliky and s-pod.com, http://www.x-simcard.com/ - GSM-Forum

xmans · 08-12-2009, 00:42

Hi.
I bought several hundreds of Rebel no cut sims from Miliky (China,HK) in the past .
Even tough Rebel sim had edge connection and signal loose problems I kept buying because of upcoming update promise.
Last I hoped for 3.0 update so I bought 200 pcs even tough I had old stock.
But he didn't tell me they are abandoning their Rebel no cut sim project. Already 2 months passed still no any promised update released. Apple didn't kill software unlocked iphones in 10 days via itune as Miliky said.
So very next day I made payment for 200 pcs, they announced Rebel II sims.
Then price for "no cut sims" are dropped in half price by now. I am feeling cheated by Miliky. He could offer me Rebel II sims instead of junk items.
I waited updates for 2 months.
Now I don't know what to do with those devalued and "no update" sims.
I tried to contact him hundreds time over MSN and email. But he didn't respond. He is busy for deleting about Rebel sim and own promise on forum. So I don't believe he is busy for promised update.
Thank you

xmans · 08-13-2009, 01:25

I have 400 Rebel sims including 200 from last order from Miliky ([email protected]). I bought for about 400pcs=$1600, but now can be valued $800 after 2 months. I am keep loosing money. Miliky knew that no cut sims will be devalued, because very next day he start taking order for Rebel II sim. But he sold me junk 200 pcs, without let me know about it. Now he don't want exchange them with new Rebel II sim or refund. He is selling no cut sims at half price. It seems he is in rush to get rid off old Rebel sims. I don't know when he will bring Rebel 3 sim to abandon Rebel II sim users.
I afraid then they will have story as mine.
Taking care customer is best way for great success.
Miliky please be honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

xmans · 08-16-2009, 17:13

So far no any progress from him.
I will keep you updated.

**miliky** · 08-16-2009, 19:17

There is no long story here and there is no obligation to refund anybody money in GSM business if a Box is Cracked or for sim proxy`s everything depends on mutual understanding not obligatory.

About iPhone Update I made my public notice here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...99&postcount=1

The future is Unpredictable in iPhone Unlocking SIM business, talking from my experience you too know that too.

BR
Gee

Bi0H4z4rD · 08-16-2009, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by miliky

There is no long story here and there is no obligation to refund anybody money in GSM business if a Box is Cracked or for sim proxy`s everything depends on mutual understanding not obligatory.

About iPhone Update I made my public notice here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...99&postcount=1

The future is Unpredictable in iPhone Unlocking SIM business, talking from my experience you too know that too.

BR
Gee

I dont find it honest to tell someone that "apple will kill phones with itunes". If that happened, then 80% of sold iphones would become dead!

Bad strategy

And i dont really see that you are giving a good explanation of why you did this to xmans...

xmans · 08-17-2009, 18:13

Miliky ([email protected])
So did you rip off me? Greed is killing gsm world. He convinced me with upcoming great update promises, so I bought hundreds of Rebel sims.Now what he says this kind of fraud strategy is normal in gsm market.
In the past I bought not only turbo sims,also I bought many other unlocking devices. But why did you cheat me this time? You are making enough from me. You could tell me you are bringing Rebel II, III sims? If you told me I would go with new sims.
Watch out!!!!!!!!!! I am sure he is preparing Rebel III, IV, .....XXX sims soon. So previous unlock sim owners like me get ripped off. I warned you "if are going yo buy Rebel II, III sims".
Over 100.000 forum members are watching you.

hakancpu · 08-17-2009, 18:45

regarding rebel sim, i contact one of their product supporter and all are ok now..

xmans · 08-18-2009, 21:27

What does "Ok " mean for you?
Is it "OK" to scam retailers with hundreds of junk turbo sims?
Or are they OK with how much they made from from retailers and customers like me?

Even before they selling me those junk sims, they said everything is OK.
Miliky told me "wait just 1-2 weeks for big update". Now I can see it wasn't OK as he said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hakancpu

regarding rebel sim, i contact one of their product supporter and all are ok now..

xmans · 08-19-2009, 21:22

Things got more worse.
He referred his product as 100% loss

?
This clearly means he is not gonna support Rebel no cut sims.
Please refund even small percent of my loss???????? I don't want 100% loss because of your fake promise.
Why he and Rebel team keep selling those no cut sims even today?

100% customer loss=100% Rebel team profit.

Is it how you do business?

Mr.Rebel · 08-20-2009, 14:51

I will be in Shenzen in less than 3 weeks!
Then we two will have a little chat with some of the largest manufactures and my friends!
I will bring back 200 cards & we will see if you can say same words to me too!

If you dont like to spend Time in jail you will pay back! the rest will be history!

Mr.Rebel Out!

strangerboy · 08-20-2009, 17:40

Same situation here... i still have 400 rebel cards for iphone in stock.. the reason ??? they never work correctly with portuguese operators so the ones i sold clients reclaimed the money back... Rebel cards never worked, and they still don´t work so this items are just money lost to me ... i´m still waiting for a solution, also i´ve posted sometime in rebel section and my post was deleted dont really know why ??? i would like to have some good answers from this team ..

oocokeoo · 08-20-2009, 18:47

REBEL SIM IS THE WORST **** EVER.

IN CANADA, iT WONT WORK WELL, EVEN 2.2.1 WITH NEW SOFTWARE STILL HAVE PROBLEM

SIGNAL LOSE, NO SIM INSERT, ETC... MANY PROBLEMS.

AND I GOT 100PCS FROM THIS GUY, AFTER few days, The REBEL 2 came out.

and i am fuked with those 100pcs now.

BUYER BEWARE. DO NOT BUY REBEL SIM IF U ARE USING IN CANADA.

EVEN THEIR RESELLER MENTIONED REBEL SIM NOT WORKING WELL IN CANADA ON THEIR EBAY LISTING, BUT REBELSIM.COM DIDNT EVEN SAY **** ON IT.

BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!

xmans · 08-20-2009, 20:31

Now you can see many retailers are scammed by them.
I don't know how many others keeping their thousands sims in stock. Day by day our stock stinks.

We want our money back. Even portion is fine.
Do you know Miliky is selling his sims for $1.70 now?
But he sold me each one $3.85
Why he and Rebel team keep selling those no cut sims even today?
100% customer loss=100% Rebel team profit
Miliky if you are honest businessman please respond.

strangerboy · 08-20-2009, 22:34

True .... when i bought the rebel sim´s they claimed to be the only solution on market, but they never told us this was a non working solution, even after some updates the problems remained rebel simcards never worked at least in my country operators they never worked so this is a non working product as i may say so.... in all non working products refund is an obdious thing to do ..... we are talking about a lot of money not just a few pennies.... SO AN ANSWER FROM THIS TEAM ABOUT THIS MATTER WOULD BE APPRECIATED

GSM-Java · 08-20-2009, 23:21

Yes, I also have 100 cards (thanks again Gee).

Why should I cry here? Apple is one to blame.

08-12-2009, 00:42	#1 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	About Miliky and s-pod.com, http://www.x-simcard.com/ Hi. I bought several hundreds of Rebel no cut sims from Miliky (China,HK) in the past . Even tough Rebel sim had edge connection and signal loose problems I kept buying because of upcoming update promise. Last I hoped for 3.0 update so I bought 200 pcs even tough I had old stock. But he didn't tell me they are abandoning their Rebel no cut sim project. Already 2 months passed still no any promised update released. Apple didn't kill software unlocked iphones in 10 days via itune as Miliky said. So very next day I made payment for 200 pcs, they announced Rebel II sims. Then price for "no cut sims" are dropped in half price by now. I am feeling cheated by Miliky. He could offer me Rebel II sims instead of junk items. I waited updates for 2 months. Now I don't know what to do with those devalued and "no update" sims. I tried to contact him hundreds time over MSN and email. But he didn't respond. He is busy for deleting about Rebel sim and own promise on forum. So I don't believe he is busy for promised update. Thank you Last edited by xmans; 08-12-2009 at 00:44. Reason: misspell

08-13-2009, 01:25	#2 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Miliky ([email protected]) please respond? I have 400 Rebel sims including 200 from last order from Miliky ([email protected]). I bought for about 400pcs=$1600, but now can be valued $800 after 2 months. I am keep loosing money. Miliky knew that no cut sims will be devalued, because very next day he start taking order for Rebel II sim. But he sold me junk 200 pcs, without let me know about it. Now he don't want exchange them with new Rebel II sim or refund. He is selling no cut sims at half price. It seems he is in rush to get rid off old Rebel sims. I don't know when he will bring Rebel 3 sim to abandon Rebel II sim users. I afraid then they will have story as mine. Taking care customer is best way for great success. Miliky please be honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last edited by xmans; 08-13-2009 at 01:32.

08-19-2009, 21:22	#9 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Miliky ([email protected]) cheater!!!!!!!! Things got more worse. He referred his product as 100% loss ? This clearly means he is not gonna support Rebel no cut sims. Please refund even small percent of my loss???????? I don't want 100% loss because of your fake promise. Why he and Rebel team keep selling those no cut sims even today? 100% customer loss=100% Rebel team profit. Is it how you do business?

08-20-2009, 14:51	#10 (permalink)
Mr.Rebel Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Member: 1100865 Status: Offline Sonork: king rebel Thanks Meter: 0	well what you have made is a big misstake! I will be in Shenzen in less than 3 weeks! Then we two will have a little chat with some of the largest manufactures and my friends! I will bring back 200 cards & we will see if you can say same words to me too! If you dont like to spend Time in jail you will pay back! the rest will be history! Mr.Rebel Out!

08-20-2009, 18:47	#12 (permalink)
oocokeoo Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 8 Member: 712160 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Rebel sim REBEL SIM IS THE WORST ** EVER. IN CANADA, iT WONT WORK WELL, EVEN 2.2.1 WITH NEW SOFTWARE STILL HAVE PROBLEM SIGNAL LOSE, NO SIM INSERT, ETC... MANY PROBLEMS. AND I GOT 100PCS FROM THIS GUY, AFTER few days, The REBEL 2 came out. and i am fuked with those 100pcs now. BUYER BEWARE. DO NOT BUY REBEL SIM IF U ARE USING IN CANADA. EVEN THEIR RESELLER MENTIONED REBEL SIM NOT WORKING WELL IN CANADA ON THEIR EBAY LISTING, BUT REBELSIM.COM DIDNT EVEN SAY ** ON IT. BUYER BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!

08-16-2009, 17:13	#3 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	So far no any progress from him. I will keep you updated.

08-16-2009, 19:17	#4 (permalink)
miliky Product Manager Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Enugu - Nigeria Age: 59 Posts: 1,546 Member: 38751 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.75985 Thanks Meter: 2,573	There is no long story here and there is no obligation to refund anybody money in GSM business if a Box is Cracked or for sim proxy`s everything depends on mutual understanding not obligatory. About iPhone Update I made my public notice here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...99&postcount=1 The future is Unpredictable in iPhone Unlocking SIM business, talking from my experience you too know that too. BR Gee

08-17-2009, 18:13	#6 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Miliky ([email protected]) So did you rip off me? Greed is killing gsm world. He convinced me with upcoming great update promises, so I bought hundreds of Rebel sims.Now what he says this kind of fraud strategy is normal in gsm market. In the past I bought not only turbo sims,also I bought many other unlocking devices. But why did you cheat me this time? You are making enough from me. You could tell me you are bringing Rebel II, III sims? If you told me I would go with new sims. Watch out!!!!!!!!!! I am sure he is preparing Rebel III, IV, .....XXX sims soon. So previous unlock sim owners like me get ripped off. I warned you "if are going yo buy Rebel II, III sims". Over 100.000 forum members are watching you.

08-17-2009, 18:45	#7 (permalink)
hakancpu Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nokia Phils. Age: 44 Posts: 191 Member: 112533 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 28	regarding rebel sim, i contact one of their product supporter and all are ok now..

08-20-2009, 17:40	#11 (permalink)
strangerboy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Porto, Portugal Age: 46 Posts: 1,569 Member: 3783 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 128	Same situation here... i still have 400 rebel cards for iphone in stock.. the reason ??? they never work correctly with portuguese operators so the ones i sold clients reclaimed the money back... Rebel cards never worked, and they still don´t work so this items are just money lost to me ... i´m still waiting for a solution, also i´ve posted sometime in rebel section and my post was deleted dont really know why ??? i would like to have some good answers from this team ..

08-20-2009, 20:31	#13 (permalink)
xmans Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 43543 Posts: 224 Member: 5792 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Miliky and Rebel team are cheaters Now you can see many retailers are scammed by them. I don't know how many others keeping their thousands sims in stock. Day by day our stock stinks. We want our money back. Even portion is fine. Do you know Miliky is selling his sims for $1.70 now? But he sold me each one $3.85 Why he and Rebel team keep selling those no cut sims even today? 100% customer loss=100% Rebel team profit Miliky if you are honest businessman please respond.

08-20-2009, 22:34	#14 (permalink)
strangerboy No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Porto, Portugal Age: 46 Posts: 1,569 Member: 3783 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 128	True .... when i bought the rebel sim´s they claimed to be the only solution on market, but they never told us this was a non working solution, even after some updates the problems remained rebel simcards never worked at least in my country operators they never worked so this is a non working product as i may say so.... in all non working products refund is an obdious thing to do ..... we are talking about a lot of money not just a few pennies.... SO AN ANSWER FROM THIS TEAM ABOUT THIS MATTER WOULD BE APPRECIATED

08-20-2009, 23:21	#15 (permalink)
GSM-Java No Life Poster Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 766 Member: 28435 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 16	Yes, I also have 100 cards (thanks again Gee). Why should I cry here? Apple is one to blame.

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