Andy Holovak - - - www.mtonline.sk - GSM-Forum

source · 11-24-2003, 16:12

Hi all,

its not really my style to post here, but since a week, i have been victim of facts made by someone in our community, and i decided to make this public, as it could cost me a lot of money :

Andy Holovac is my main competitor in motorola codes, he bought his first access in may 2003, when i was having him as a customer

he decided to call himself the first and blablabla motoserver, i dont care about this, i have my own customers who for 95% even dont know this forum (where this andy is making massive advertisement and where mods and admins let him do, this must be arrangement with zfrank because i refused to continue to finance the forum for 300 euros a month when my banners on top of each page gived me 40 visitors A MONTH)

so, a week ago, something happened with motocodes, and andy reacted very fast, nice move, ok, no problem, but when it become bad is that this mister hacked my server application, stolen all my customers email addresses and started to spam them with crazy prices (we reckon here the idiot people like many, i will give no name), so i told him i knew it was him, he said : no, no, it is not me, i never do this, i even dont know your server, blablabla

then, a customer of mine came with some emails sent FROM ANDY with codes corresponding to imeis waiting in my server system

so i claim now that Andy Holovak is a big cheater, he is also using illegal methods to try to get a few euros more in his pocket

also, it is not because he played the bad boy for a week that he is now the only one to make codes

so people, before buying, just be careful from who you buy, things can happen, prices can move, this mother f.ucker wants the mess, he will have it...

any reaction welcome
best regards
source

www.MTOnline.sk · 11-24-2003, 16:33

Hi!

You are working on half-truths and sometimes i feel you are really bad informed.

1. WE NEVER DO NOTHING TO YOU OR YOUR SERVER
2. WE STARTED NOT IN MAY :-) ask our customers :-). Much earlier you think.
3. YES WE SEND EMAILS, WE DONT THINK ITS INCORRECT - WE ARE COMPETITORS.
4. SERVER - YES, OUR WAS FIRST AUTOMATED SERVER FOR THIS
5. I JUST MAKE ADVERTISTING AS EVERYONE ELSE, EVERY 10 DAYS AS IN RULES - and i have nothing together with zfrank or anybody elses -

THATS ALL I WANNA SAY

source · 11-24-2003, 16:35

yes, you were selling my codes, in the beginning

remember you needed 3 weeks to pay me 3000 euros fo the 2000 codes you bought???

source · 11-24-2003, 16:39

anyway, this is not the point, you hacked my server and stolen some database, this is what i am accusing you about

**zfrank** · 11-24-2003, 16:42

Quote:

Originally posted by source

this must be arrangement with zfrank because i refused to continue to finance the forum for 300 euros a month when my banners on top of each page gived me 40 visitors A MONTH)

@source
We´ve no arrangement with www.MTOnline.sk !
He can post every 10 days in sales/purchase as every other activated members.
40 visitors/month is also an lie!

farrell · 11-24-2003, 16:42

If you build your castles from sand, don't complain about the tide.

Saucy source, chill out, it's your fault for not protecting your server better, you know what this world is like. Go cry somewhere else, life isn't fair.

Oh, and what about 3000 EUR you cheated ******, and told him that you had laughed at him? Is that the same as the 2 weeks andy took to pay you?

Please, just go back to you red light district, oh, that's right, too many people looking for you there, i forgot.

www.MTOnline.sk · 11-24-2003, 16:42

yes i bought from you codes, when our old access was down, and when we need codes to support our customers, also you was next (after 2 weeks) buying from me or not ?

yes thats, not point

about hacking - once more and again, we never do nothing with your server, and dont wanna to know from me what i really think about this all

Byez !

source · 11-24-2003, 16:45

you did man

@Jan Farell, keep out of this, i may pay you a little visit, you really start to take the piss out of me

in anyway, said what i wanted to say, you can all keep blull****ting here, i do not care, the case is now public, thats all i wanted

all-gsm · 11-24-2003, 16:46

Hey @ Source do you know me ???

be carefull what do you say , may be i can you remeber whats is happend for 1 yhear ago.. may be i put here your words about Andy then i don´t know how do you comming again Cheater or Trustable

and about your server ...sorry man but you are child

Regards

farrell · 11-24-2003, 16:47

Quote:

Originally posted by zfrank
@source
We´ve no arrangement with www.MTOnline.sk !
He can post every 10 days in sales/purchase as every other activated members.
40 visitors/month is also an lie!

40 vistors a month is impossible, fix your counter, 400 a day, possible....

www.MTOnline.sk · 11-24-2003, 16:49

@Source

at the best is to tell that i hacked your server cause my service is working ?? i still dont understand - try to think about it !!!

or you know truth and just trying to bring me as person down ?

the customer just go there where is working and better service, thats all

farrell · 11-24-2003, 16:54

Quote:

Originally posted by source
you did man

@Jan Farell, keep out of this, i may pay you a little visit, you really start to take the piss out of me

in anyway, said what i wanted to say, you can all keep blull****ting here, i do not care, the case is now public, thats all i wanted

Hey, I stay out of what I want, not what you want, is that clear?

I told you that you were invited whenever you want to come and visit me, just keep your lady boys at home, they might burn their fingers.

source · 11-24-2003, 16:55

no no, i m speaking about emails sent to my users, even to the email adresses created by my customers ONLY to receive codes by me, adresses totally unknowed by anyone except my customers and me

concerning ******, he has got what he deserved, as cheating and spoiling unlockeasy.com since a so long time, i ****ed him, and we had a pretty good restaurant with that money, be sure to know same kind of thing will happen with anyone trying to mess with me

@Andy, you can ssay what you want, you did it, i know it for sure

@zfrank, how come then you allow him publicity signature in the end of each post in the forum, and also this avatar with description of his only product + domain name of his server as a nickname???

all-gsm · 11-24-2003, 16:56

@ Source .

Ask my Brother for better Server Protection or better ask Irinel , i can say your server is misserable...for protection her...don´t abuse from Onest and trustable people like Andy.. he is 100 % Trustable person,,,never Cheated annywhanna....so @ Source go home and sleep a little Time

Regards

source · 11-24-2003, 16:58

yeah, blablabla

you are his reseller, it is normal you protect him...
IDIOT!

11-24-2003, 16:12	#1 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	Andy Holovak - - - www.mtonline.sk Hi all, its not really my style to post here, but since a week, i have been victim of facts made by someone in our community, and i decided to make this public, as it could cost me a lot of money : Andy Holovac is my main competitor in motorola codes, he bought his first access in may 2003, when i was having him as a customer he decided to call himself the first and blablabla motoserver, i dont care about this, i have my own customers who for 95% even dont know this forum (where this andy is making massive advertisement and where mods and admins let him do, this must be arrangement with zfrank because i refused to continue to finance the forum for 300 euros a month when my banners on top of each page gived me 40 visitors A MONTH) so, a week ago, something happened with motocodes, and andy reacted very fast, nice move, ok, no problem, but when it become bad is that this mister hacked my server application, stolen all my customers email addresses and started to spam them with crazy prices (we reckon here the idiot people like many, i will give no name), so i told him i knew it was him, he said : no, no, it is not me, i never do this, i even dont know your server, blablabla then, a customer of mine came with some emails sent FROM ANDY with codes corresponding to imeis waiting in my server system so i claim now that Andy Holovak is a big cheater, he is also using illegal methods to try to get a few euros more in his pocket also, it is not because he played the bad boy for a week that he is now the only one to make codes so people, before buying, just be careful from who you buy, things can happen, prices can move, this mother f.ucker wants the mess, he will have it... any reaction welcome best regards source

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11-24-2003, 16:33	#2 (permalink)
www.MTOnline.sk Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Slovakia, CE Age: 42 Posts: 174 Member: 10973 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Hi! You are working on half-truths and sometimes i feel you are really bad informed. 1. WE NEVER DO NOTHING TO YOU OR YOUR SERVER 2. WE STARTED NOT IN MAY :-) ask our customers :-). Much earlier you think. 3. YES WE SEND EMAILS, WE DONT THINK ITS INCORRECT - WE ARE COMPETITORS. 4. SERVER - YES, OUR WAS FIRST AUTOMATED SERVER FOR THIS 5. I JUST MAKE ADVERTISTING AS EVERYONE ELSE, EVERY 10 DAYS AS IN RULES - and i have nothing together with zfrank or anybody elses - THATS ALL I WANNA SAY

11-24-2003, 16:35	#3 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	yes, you were selling my codes, in the beginning remember you needed 3 weeks to pay me 3000 euros fo the 2000 codes you bought???

11-24-2003, 16:39	#4 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	anyway, this is not the point, you hacked my server and stolen some database, this is what i am accusing you about

11-24-2003, 16:42	#6 (permalink)
farrell Product Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Posts: 669 Member: 16573 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	If you build your castles from sand, don't complain about the tide. Saucy source, chill out, it's your fault for not protecting your server better, you know what this world is like. Go cry somewhere else, life isn't fair. Oh, and what about 3000 EUR you cheated ******, and told him that you had laughed at him? Is that the same as the 2 weeks andy took to pay you? Please, just go back to you red light district, oh, that's right, too many people looking for you there, i forgot.

11-24-2003, 16:42	#7 (permalink)
www.MTOnline.sk Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Slovakia, CE Age: 42 Posts: 174 Member: 10973 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	yes i bought from you codes, when our old access was down, and when we need codes to support our customers, also you was next (after 2 weeks) buying from me or not ? yes thats, not point about hacking - once more and again, we never do nothing with your server, and dont wanna to know from me what i really think about this all Byez !

11-24-2003, 16:45	#8 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	you did man @Jan Farell, keep out of this, i may pay you a little visit, you really start to take the piss out of me in anyway, said what i wanted to say, you can all keep blull****ting here, i do not care, the case is now public, thats all i wanted

11-24-2003, 16:46	#9 (permalink)
all-gsm Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Romania Age: 56 Posts: 403 Member: 11347 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	Hey @ Source do you know me ??? be carefull what do you say , may be i can you remeber whats is happend for 1 yhear ago.. may be i put here your words about Andy then i don´t know how do you comming again Cheater or Trustable and about your server ...sorry man but you are child Regards

11-24-2003, 16:49	#11 (permalink)
www.MTOnline.sk Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Slovakia, CE Age: 42 Posts: 174 Member: 10973 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	@Source at the best is to tell that i hacked your server cause my service is working ?? i still dont understand - try to think about it !!! or you know truth and just trying to bring me as person down ? the customer just go there where is working and better service, thats all

11-24-2003, 16:55	#13 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	no no, i m speaking about emails sent to my users, even to the email adresses created by my customers ONLY to receive codes by me, adresses totally unknowed by anyone except my customers and me concerning ****, he has got what he deserved, as cheating and spoiling unlockeasy.com since a so long time, i **ed him, and we had a pretty good restaurant with that money, be sure to know same kind of thing will happen with anyone trying to mess with me @Andy, you can ssay what you want, you did it, i know it for sure @zfrank, how come then you allow him publicity signature in the end of each post in the forum, and also this avatar with description of his only product + domain name of his server as a nickname???

11-24-2003, 16:56	#14 (permalink)
all-gsm Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Romania Age: 56 Posts: 403 Member: 11347 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	@ Source . Ask my Brother for better Server Protection or better ask Irinel , i can say your server is misserable...for protection her...don´t abuse from Onest and trustable people like Andy.. he is 100 % Trustable person,,,never Cheated annywhanna....so @ Source go home and sleep a little Time Regards

11-24-2003, 16:58	#15 (permalink)
source No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Amsterdam - NL Age: 48 Posts: 916 Member: 5339 Status: Offline Sonork: 100:1576437 Thanks Meter: 3	yeah, blablabla you are his reseller, it is normal you protect him... IDIOT!