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02-16-2012, 21:04 | #1 (permalink) | |||||
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | ATF and BEST using stealed source codes violating MY copyrights Back in 2008, one Philipino guy, called monxxx asked me on sonork for some help relating to BB5 USB FLASHING. I am not bitch, so helped him, sending my KarwosSuite 4 USB BB5 sources, but with notice - only for personal use, and change text, reanalyze code, rewrite it, etc. Here is Sonork Conversation log: [IMG]http://www.**********/fl_bb5_monxxx.PNG[/IMG] This sources sent him is pretty old. Used in KS4, but completly rewritten from scratch for Cyclone (too many bugs, also my coding skills back in 2008 wasn't so nice). In my source we have functions such as: Quote:
Let's analyze now my source function-by-function and check how ATF just copied it, violating MY copyrights (file is 100% written by me), without asking me, without giving any credits, etc. ATF Example Flashing Log Quote:
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So fact is: ATF used MY sources not for private usage, without any agreement/credits/payment/anything. They don't had my AGREEMENT for use MY WORK in their COMMERCIAL product. @gsmfun/others: you know my sonork. since you not responding me anymore, message me how you want solve this situation. @monxxx: you are biggest b..., no doubts, no respect for you. | |||||
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02-16-2012, 21:08 | #2 (permalink) | ||
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | I don't wanna say much more, but seems BEST is also using my implementation. Quote:
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02-16-2012, 21:12 | #3 (permalink) | ||||
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | ATF next one, taken from 5130c hang done via ATF usb flashing (bwenwmano pa lang) - GSM-Forum GSMReloaded Quote:
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02-16-2012, 21:18 | #4 (permalink) | |
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | If anybody will come now and say i bought this source, let see KarwosSuite4 flashing logs. Dated 2007 year !! So clearly we see who is author of sources. http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/2952342-post1.html Quote:
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02-16-2012, 21:32 | #6 (permalink) | |
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | Quote:
If someone steal your work, and you see it after 2 years, what you do? You doing nothing? Especially put in at least two commercial products - ATF and Best by infinity. 2008 but code is still used till today... even u see latest rapu21 flashing logs.. all is same. it's very buggy code anyway, i just left VID/PID looking function in cyclone , rest recoded from scratch. | |
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02-16-2012, 21:50 | #7 (permalink) |
Insane Poster Join Date: Mar 2011
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Member: 1528185 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3 | Bro Ur not child If I says Plz send me Xperia algo for personal use Can u send me without any charge Not possible Plz don't cry now This is a gsm game Best dongel improve day by day (after copy Ur sorce) |
02-16-2012, 22:08 | #8 (permalink) | |
No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Poland
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Member: 209842 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.93537 Thanks Meter: 3,386 | Quote:
When somebody ask You for help on street, did You help him? Or maybe some of Your friends? Im happy that we have on this world trustable person, which help each others. This is reason why some of Us work in team. But lesson like this teach Us- dont help, dont trust... This is really sad that two big project use some stolen source. | |
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02-16-2012, 22:32 | #9 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: J.A.U - Just Another Unlocker Age: 44
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Member: 2878 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 9,123 | we all exchange sources and if some log messages looks perfekt, we use same. i can also count some texts from my src (thanks to zulea) who put it 1:1 in his projects including my typing errors , but i dont care.. its funny for me to see this part later in other projects... isnt it? for me, i wish times back 1999 where gsm was coding for fun. |
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02-16-2012, 22:33 | #10 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2010 Age: 14
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Member: 1375690 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 92 | ok agree, in 2008 cyclone was not born and may be you sold him your soft.2010 cyclone born and you now dont want your soft use other soft coders. is this right ?? or wrong because now cyclone is better than karawos suite in multi box |
02-16-2012, 22:35 | #11 (permalink) | |
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | Quote:
i also sent some sources months back to Bph&co, he credited me, before he also send me some tuff like old dct4 unlock, etc - is all good , because we both know how it works. but now see diffrent situation. i didn't exchanged this sources with noone, just send to ONE guy and noted - only for private use. now i see this. it's kinda diffrent situation, don't you think. because i promised something to BEST team after they copied RAPUv21, then also after released free broadcom, maybe tomorrow will release BEST sources. | |
02-16-2012, 22:43 | #13 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | I don't know internals of ATF team, but he is Filipino, and ulymar and X-Shadow are as well, so very possible, don't you think. i had also little chat with arash, he also sent some ufs/jaf rutines to monxxx, later included into BEST. same story. |
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02-16-2012, 22:51 | #14 (permalink) | |
Moderator Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Serbia Age: 48
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Member: 163 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7,790 | Quote:
bad to see same old stories still happening ... copy/paste still active. good part of the story - there is still confident people, and there are still old-school coders and people, which still have their codex and their word. p.s. i am glad that i am still here, and that i have old-skool people in contacts. b.r. ALex | |
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02-16-2012, 22:55 | #15 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34
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Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689 | no , look i didn't sold any sources to any atf or best team. if i would sell this source to anybody to use in commercial product - no problem. one guy, filipino guy monxxx contact me, and asked for help with usb bb5 flashing. he say he need it for hobby, private use, school etc, only for study to see how it works. so as you can see in sonork logs - i sent him, and only for him. and now i see this sources used in atf, best, blabla. catch my point now ? problem : source stolen by filipino guy, used in at least 2 commercial products. |
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