new trend in box/dongle updates

[eivelice]

it seems that coders nowadays are going into trend

like LGTool, sigma and nck team

asking for paid updates.

no i am not a sunday unlockers.

i have boxes, i have a few shops to manage.

the thing is, some of the updates and phones supported on the new updates are not usable in our country and it was not that necessarily needed

and some box are expensive (sigma) (setool fully activated with lgtool) then putting a paid updates forcefully is not a good thing for us, small shops owners are only asking for updates but not paid ones, we already paid for the box, some of us have been using the boxes for only a few months,

mine was just about 5 months old and have not got good income from the box because it was not being used that much

box sales are up because everyday there is a new shop being opened and box are being sold so i think coders are not going to get poor.

credits was needed for each phone to be unlocked, so it was an income to the coders team, then now, activation is also paid.

what do you think on technicians? milking cows?

we paid for the box, we paid for the credits.

so at least make some updates for free. not forcefully making us buy activation so we could use the boxes.

i felt like buying a 180$ paper weight after a few months of use.

[moulnisky]

Hi,
if you look at some posts done some years ago what is happening today how supposed to be always.
in the last years we saw the gsm market filled by disposable tools which were going dead as soon the sales were not convering any more the costs as the teams, without an income, had no motivation to update it.
The choice of "all free" caused that and now the teams who survived that "dark period" are just going back to the old policy with paid updates.
Nobody works for free so why they should? at the end this will generate a selection in the user market too where who can afford will survive and afterward will be able to sell his service finally at the right price instead of doing the job for 1$.

BR

Alex

[Fast Unlocking]

Originally Posted by eivelice

it seems that coders nowadays are going into trend

like LGTool, sigma and nck team

asking for paid updates.

no i am not a sunday unlockers.

i have boxes, i have a few shops to manage.

the thing is, some of the updates and phones supported on the new updates are not usable in our country and it was not that necessarily needed

and some box are expensive (sigma) (setool fully activated with lgtool) then putting a paid updates forcefully is not a good thing for us, small shops owners are only asking for updates but not paid ones, we already paid for the box, some of us have been using the boxes for only a few months,

mine was just about 5 months old and have not got good income from the box because it was not being used that much

box sales are up because everyday there is a new shop being opened and box are being sold so i think coders are not going to get poor.

credits was needed for each phone to be unlocked, so it was an income to the coders team, then now, activation is also paid.

what do you think on technicians? milking cows?

we paid for the box, we paid for the credits.

so at least make some updates for free. not forcefully making us buy activation so we could use the boxes.

i felt like buying a 180$ paper weight after a few months of use.

So you think you can pay 50 usd and get life time free updates? and this is sure ok with you and others others?

you think 50 usd what even if you make 1 usd for unlock phone and 1 usd to flash /repair is 50 usd, so you are telling me 50 usd in 1 month you dongle make?

in 1 year ? how much you make with nck or lgtool etc..

you don t like to pay simply don t use, you sure want all free, but we must buy phones, kill phones , make solutions , pay our team , pay servers , pay for reversers , pay hardware all this every month we must pay, while u pay nothing, for 1 year and then get to pay little as 30 usd in our case (Some others are more or less, but sure they have over heads also).

If you can t afford this then we also can t and sorry yes will not be free, if you can t support us in this then we also can t support you.

From our team side this in the most honest and straight forward answer i can give you, and last answer here , because i don t discuss what we already decided.

I just answered here to make things more clear not like you make us to be.

PS. We are not cowboys to milk cows, i think you must go into farming business if think this way.
PS2. In your country many of our updates are useful as many models we added with "YOUR Country's users, add here is not always about only you and what you wish as update this is universal world users and models, so you should read about a dongle box before you buy or don t buy to demand.

[RedeYeS]

old days when box/tool cost was 500$ and more , (i paid 20k as i remember for dejan bb5)
i believe support was free for few years , and no one was complain ,
but now programmers and box`s/Dongles distributors are selling for 50-100 $
after a while sales will be less because each customer will have box
so programmers have two options :
First : To end project and start new one (many examples for this)
second : take annual fees to keep there updates and pay they workers ,
in my opinion i prefare second choice as i already have many papers weight in my shop and dont need more ,
many of great tools like neelix , dejans , martech , victors , griffin are died because they dont find its worthy to update ,

this is my 2 cents .
Best Regards
RedeYeS

[skedone]

Totally agree.

I would rather pay a yearly update fee as long as support is GOOD.

However, some guys, like LGTool and NSPro actual advice support from coders is almost non existent at the minute.

Still EVERYONE can easily earn the $100 box cost and then maybe $50 update fee in a year. If they cant maybe its time to go be a farmer!!

[fred]

Originally Posted by RedeYeS

old days when box/tool cost was 500$ and more , (i paid 20k as i remember for dejan bb5)
i believe support was free for few years , and no one was complain ,
but now programmers and box`s/Dongles distributors are selling for 50-100 $
after a while sales will be less because each customer will have box
so programmers have two options :
First : To end project and start new one (many examples for this)
second : take annual fees to keep there updates and pay they workers ,
in my opinion i prefare second choice as i already have many papers weight in my shop and dont need more ,
many of great tools like neelix , dejans , martech , victors , griffin are died because they dont find its worthy to update ,

this is my 2 cents .
Best Regards
RedeYeS

you made some point and positively right..

but how would you react on the action about LGtool/SGtool suspending SGtool

and living behind the users O(zero) gadget...

unlike before your buy box and it stop supporting but still those paper weight box are

still useable even thou it has no more support..

well i am just looking forward for your opinion about it..

would you think it is reasonable to leave behind users without anything to use??

even thou it was already paid?

br
freddy

[RedeYeS]

i dont know back story for SGtool and the reason why they stop it ,
actually i activated it with lgtool but did not use it , i found some other tools more profisional for samsung .
my theory there is no multi platform box/dongle programmed by one person ,
some authors use or buy other people sources to get more money .
so they gonna lose connection with original programmer after a while witch cuase dead project.
thats why i always like to use box/dongle for platform witch programmed by its original author , this way you will be updated and support will last longer ,

Best Regards
RedeYeS