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Old 01-25-2013, 11:51   #1 (permalink)
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unlock ilegal in usa in 2013 new DCMA law in US


Guys the new DCMA law has been passed in USA which states that UNLOCKING any smart Phone without the permission of the carrier is ilegal this law will be effective on saturday

DMCA rule insanity: Unlocking your smartphone will soon be illegal | Digital Trends


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what u have to say the service related to usa are going to be closed ?

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Old 01-25-2013, 17:33   #2 (permalink)
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Lol, I will se what will happen.
few years ago the same thing happened in Italy.. the police went in all teh computer shop and impounded all the unlocking box. on top of it all the unlockers were courted for hacking and so going on.
After 6 months of court actions and similar ended up all the mobile had to be sold already unlocked and all the boxes been given back to the owners.
Just an huge wasting of money and resources
At the end the only mobiles where this policy will be applied are the Apple ones as on all the other will be hard, apart of the new models, realize when the unlock code been put in the mobile or prove the job been done in usa

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Old 01-25-2013, 20:17   #3 (permalink)
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Lol, I will se what will happen.
few years ago the same thing happened in Italy.. the police went in all teh computer shop and impounded all the unlocking box. on top of it all the unlockers were courted for hacking and so going on.
After 6 months of court actions and similar ended up all the mobile had to be sold already unlocked and all the boxes been given back to the owners.
Just an huge wasting of money and resources
At the end the only mobiles where this policy will be applied are the Apple ones as on all the other will be hard, apart of the new models, realize when the unlock code been put in the mobile or prove the job been done in usa

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and on top of that its for software unlocking .. or modifying anything e.g if direct full unlock a nokia then they would have to prove it
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Old 01-25-2013, 20:35   #4 (permalink)
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3 month old article, so just relax
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Old 01-25-2013, 20:45   #5 (permalink)
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From my understanding, and I do not have the other article I have read about this. I thought this would only pertain to phones bought in 2013 and forward. Anything Prior to 2013 was fair game. I would have to search for this again, but it was only my interpretation of what I had read.
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Old 01-25-2013, 20:57   #6 (permalink)
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This might help. Unlocking new smartphone becomes harder Saturday - CNN.com
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Old 01-25-2013, 21:32   #7 (permalink)
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...paign=shorturl

those worried should perhaps sign this petition still needs 95000 users to sign.


PS was posted to me on sonork so dont know if its real or what not..

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Old 01-25-2013, 22:27   #8 (permalink)
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Been reading here and there what the law says and in the detail:
a) are subject only the mobiles sold after the 26th january (the mobiles sold after 26 octover 2012 should need the provider authorization anyway but how to prove them been done before or aftrer the 26th? january)
b) the law talks about "hacking or modify the firmware to bypass the network locks) which means the unlock by code is still legal as there is no hack or modify in it
Rooting of the mobiles as the jailbreak will be illegal too

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Old 01-25-2013, 22:30   #9 (permalink)
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Been readin here and there what the law says and in the detail:
a) are subject only the mobiles sold after the 26th january (the mobiles sold after 26 octover 2012 should need the provider authorization anyway but how to prove them been done before or aftrer the 26th? january)
b) the law talks about "hacking or modify the firmware to bypass the network locks) which means the unlock by code is still legal as there is no hack of modify in it
Rooting of the mobiles as the jailbreak will be illegal too

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correct but dont tell everyone.. better let them stop doing unlocks as its illegal
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Old 01-25-2013, 23:05   #10 (permalink)
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The funny thing is if you kill a mobile while you try to unlock it you will end-up to pay back the mobile to the customer and in jail for tempering its firmware lol
Killing the customer will be cheaper

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yes killing the customer would be more cheaper ;-)
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:05   #12 (permalink)
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Unlock by imei is also ilegal bicouse inputing the code you modify the sw (its stored in memory and also modify the simlock state) so ergo the law are aplicable for "hacking or modify the firmware to bypass the network locks"



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Been reading here and there what the law says and in the detail:
a) are subject only the mobiles sold after the 26th january (the mobiles sold after 26 octover 2012 should need the provider authorization anyway but how to prove them been done before or aftrer the 26th? january)
b) the law talks about "hacking or modify the firmware to bypass the network locks) which means the unlock by code is still legal as there is no hack or modify in it
Rooting of the mobiles as the jailbreak will be illegal too

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Old 01-26-2013, 09:05   #13 (permalink)
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Unlock by imei is also ilegal bicouse inputing the code you modify the sw (its stored in memory and also modify the simlock state) so ergo the law are aplicable for "hacking or modify the firmware to bypass the network locks"
There is no firmware tempering or hack when input an NCK code. If we can't store any information in a mobile we wouldn't be able either to store a single telephone number.
On some mobile phones the nck code is stored in the same are where are stored contacts and sms.
Anyway, how I said already in the previous post this law will be almost impossible to apply so would be almost impossible to prevent the unlock. Either barring one mobile on all the different networks apart from the designed one in your country wouldn't prevent the use on foreign networks. Is a witch hunting which will end up like in Italy few years ago in a different solution or to the complete removing of the network looks.
They not being able to stop Hackers, piratebay, black market and they would get successfully juston the unlocking sector? please...

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Old 01-27-2013, 18:22   #14 (permalink)
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As far as i understand, this is for iphones purchased after 26 january, so we can just create a page on our website and mention that "Do not place order if your iphone was purchased after 26 january". We can still unlock iphones purchased before 26 january.
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As far as i understand, this is for iphones purchased after 26 january, so we can just create a page on our website and mention that "Do not place order if your iphone was purchased after 26 january". We can still unlock iphones purchased before 26 january.
yes good idea...

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