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Nokia Legacy Phones ( DCT-1 ,2 ,3 ,L ) Nokia Legacy Models Like 1011, 1610, 211x, 2x20, 6050, 3110, 8110, NKxxx , 2100, 3210, 3310, 3330, 3410, 5110, 5210, 5510, 6110, 6150, 6210, 6250, 7110, 8210, 8250, 8850 also 9110 & 9210 |
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02-25-2002, 16:35 | #1 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Age: 79
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Member: 7314 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11 | 51xx charging problem Plug in the charger, the tiny charger symbol appears, nothing happens for about 10sec then the NOT CHARGING display comes up.<br />Phone works fine in every other way.<br />The charger is genuine Nokia and I've tried several including car plus different batteries. The only source it will charge from is a regulated power supply set to 7.5 or 9 volts. The only thing done to the phone is unlocked (Rolis) - didn't think to check charging before unlocking. Anybody seen this/know a cure? |
02-27-2002, 19:48 | #3 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Age: 79
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Member: 7314 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11 | Thanks ModaFone, no joy, though. The only time I've seen this before is a 5130 with a bad flash (the MCU controls the charging, also) Not that this time, though, the phone works fine. |
03-01-2002, 07:29 | #4 (permalink) |
Insane Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Sweden Age: 62
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Member: 9641 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2 | Check this, sri no blocks onlt txt but it might help out............. this is for the 5110, donīt know if they are the same. If you want themanual contact me. PAMS Technical Documentation NSE1 Disassembly & Troubleshooting Instructions Page 18 Original 03/98 Charger failure YES Nothing happens when charger is connected Voltage level at pin 60 of CCONT (N100) is higher than 0.4 V when charger is connected NO Check X100, F100, L104 R104, R103 YES Check N100 Display Information: Not charging YES Voltage level at pin 62 of CCONT (N100) is about 0.8 V when power is connected BSI resistor value should be 39 k NO Check X101, R120, R122 YES Voltage level at pin 63 of CCONT (N100) is about 0.5 V when power is connected BTEMP resistor value should be 47 k NO Check X101, R120, R122 YES 32 Hz square wave frequency at pin 7 of CHAPS (N101) NO Check N100 Check N101 YES Voltage levels at pins 5 and 12 of CHAPS (N101) are same as VB NO Check R131, N101 YES Voltage levels at pins 5 and 12 of CHAPS (N101) rises when charger is connected NO |
03-01-2002, 18:53 | #6 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Poland
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Member: 5951 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | I have a similar problem that you mentioned, with the 5110. However, the charging works fine if I connect the phone to the standard (non-travel) charger. Fast charger gives the same output as you report. Car charger sometimes does the same, sometimes works fine (almost: the battery gets very hot!). |
03-02-2002, 03:10 | #7 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Age: 79
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Member: 7314 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11 | Thanks for that, ******z. Do you know what your chargers give as the DC voltage output for the "travel" and for the "fast"? Your problem is similar to mine in that mine seems to charge OK with a regulated power supply at about 7.5v but it is a problem with my Nokia charger. I think it is what is called a "fast" charger. The label gives 4.5v to 10.5 volts as the output. For a 3.6v battery, 10.5v has got to be fast! I shall set up to do some tests, but, if anyone else has more information, please let us know. kage |
03-02-2002, 04:02 | #8 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002
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Member: 9254 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4 | If my 51XX had the reported fault , i would :- measure C103 with meter if short circuit or low resistance , replace C103 (1uF 35v). 95% shure this will repair replace V100 (never seen one go faulty) 5% shure this will repair the other 5% is that your chaps ic (N101) is faulty or energy management needs re-calibrated. Hope this helps C103 is the large polorised capacitor on the bottom left of pcb (mad ic side of pcb) Last edited by M@RTY; 03-03-2002 at 05:49. |
03-06-2002, 00:42 | #10 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: UK Age: 79
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Member: 7314 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11 | Thanks to eveyone who helped - now know the answer. Borrowed an old transformer type charger (non-travel) and worked OK. Tested a few volts and found mobile will only charge if charger start volts is between 7 and 9.5 Travel charger starts about 10.5v Don't have the wherewithall to re-calibrate so a zener in the charger is what it going to get. kage |
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