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luuk 03-21-2000 18:32

My 5110 v5.11 have a strange error.., it resets it self every 60second
 
can anyone help me please?..i've only removed lock1 and activated the net monitor.., but now i've disabled the netmonitor..and it's still the same..!

KingOfKingston 03-21-2000 21:09

Try running nokall.exe on it.

R U sure you didn't try changing the imei or flashing the phone in any way? because doing that without a tdf-4 results in the symptoms you are describing.

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K Of K
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speed 03-22-2000 04:36

Hi KOK,
What soft do you have to change IMEI?

luuk 03-22-2000 18:07

No i don't think so.. (i think..)
hmm..how can i fix this..?, must i reprogram the eeprom?..can u please tell me?
In that case.., where can i find 5110 eeprom v5.11?

X-Shadow 03-22-2000 19:21

Hello guys,

Don't try to reprogram EEPROM, it will not
fix problem because EEPROM is protected by
many checksums. An EEPROM from a different
unit will also not work even if EEPROM is
also 5.11

I think you can try using your phone with
WinTesla and Try restoring all to factory
defaults. If this still not fix your problem
then maybe you should go to service center.

IMEI cannot be changed easily by an ordinary
cable and software. However, I know that a
software exists by cable that can load PPM
to Nokia phones without Nokia Boxes. But
I do not have it. http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif I still cant change
IMEI via cable, so you guys are not alone...
I've been searching for this software for
years now, still nothing http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif

Best Regards,
Linuz

KingOfKingston 03-22-2000 21:01

Hi,

Trying to reset everything to factory defaults using wintesla is a good suggestion.

It's true u cannot change imei by cable alone, and doing that or reflashing your phone probably won't fix this problem.

Senior Members have you got any ideas???

K of K

luuk 03-22-2000 23:23

i've found a eeprom file on the net.. and i've done a IMEI change successful with the USPU4.0!, but when i wrote it back to the phone...all locks are closed and i can't open these!.. (probably becaue of the demo version?).., well..i've found a crack for this program but when i tried to run it (My OS=Win98SE).., runtime error or something like that..!.., does anyone has a keyfile for this program?!, please help me!

is it possible that i can program my 5110 v5.11 with a v5.24 eeprom-file or newer??

hastalavista!, and thanx for the previus answer!

KingOfKingston 03-23-2000 01:41

Hey luuk,

Have got your phone working again? can you make calls? Let us know.

I have seen two keygens for USPU4.0 but niether of them work. The prog still has demo version at the top of the screen, even though the Help|About displays a registered version.

P.S. did you use an eeprom programmer (hardware) with USPU?

Cheers

K Of K

luuk 03-23-2000 02:16

well....it seems that my eeprom-file is useless.., it refuse to find any (whats that word in english..?) operators..?.. after i changed IMEI..

The hex-file that i found on the net is protected with all four locks!, and no one is able to open..!, the other eeprom files i have is too small..!? only 2KB.. usually it's 6KB..

i can't get my phone working until i get a correct hex-file!

u have ICQ KOK?

mine is 1057686.., kinda slow to chat in this place http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/wink.gif

koloksky 03-23-2000 17:02

hi luuk,

have u tried winlock1.1? my first phone 5110 ver 5.11 was unlocked using this soft (lock 1:????? and lock 4:????????)and works fine.

why change IMEI? Maybe you should restore your original IMEI. I encountered corrupted 5110 IMEI (doesn't detect any network) and fixed it using Nokia IMEI changer (eeprom). You could also use Wintesla6.03 to check IMEI if ok. (phone is from custormer, my suspicion is that he f***ed up his phone experiments. His phone IMEI contains some ASCII crap!).

regards,
koloksky

Bph&co 03-23-2000 20:28

Hi luuk,
Looking for other hex file for the serial
is useless. Everybody in this forum using
the word 'check sum' protected.
Thats not correct and that make us so many
problems. Some parts of the program are 'CRC'
protected. CRC means - Cyclic Redundancy Check. Thats the think that you cant change
with simple calculations.
If you ever cheked what IMEI5161 or other
programs are trying to do is to - change the
IMEI and keep the same or acceptable checksum
value. That is the way they never work.
If you change IMEI like this you can see that the phone is seems to be workin' but can't
log to the network. Run the WinTesla and test
transmiter and receiver. You can't get RSSI value out(Receive Strenght Signal Indicator).
CPU in the phone reads the checksum - OK, but
the CRC value is different and barr the receiver.
Luuk if you can make HEX calculations and if you have good EEPROM programer you
can restore your phone manualy.
Thanks
Alex

luuk 03-23-2000 21:09

Thanx for the answer..!

nope i can't manually do a working checksum.. (don't know how to do that..), can i copy another working imei-hex-file from a phone with the same version and copy into my phone? without getting problems when connecting to the net? (duplicate IMEI)

I have a eeprom pack with many eeprom from different version.. , but they are only 2KB..? u know how to use these?

Where can i learn how to do a valid checksum? ..please tell me!

my hope stands on ur shoulders http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/wink.gif

KingOfKingston 03-23-2000 22:01

Is there any way for luuk to reset his imei atc. to default factory settings through Wintesla, I know someone who does this, using a clip i thnk?, but he won't tell me how it is done. If we can do that it will solve the problem.

p.s. i dont have icq, yet.

K Of K

Bph&co 03-24-2000 01:00

Hi luuk,
I don't know which program you used, but
you can try this. Get another Nokia with the
same SW. Read the eeprom and make a back-up.
After that run the same program on the phone.
Read the eeprom again and compare the both
files. You'll find which fields are changed
in your first phone.
So read you 'bad' phone and try to change them to get your phone log to the network
again.
But I think you have to use Wintesla and
try restore 'defaults ' if you get 'Contact
Service' message.
Hard job, no doubt.

Wish you luck

Alex

jonas18z 03-24-2000 09:55

What's is a good eeprom-programmer?

luuk 03-24-2000 11:48

OK..when I try programming my v5.11 phone with an v4.59 eeprom all the locks are activated.., and unable to open, have i right? anyone who tested write another version?

To KoK..I use a smarcard programmer with an DIL sockel , in witch I can program 16x84 and 24C16, 24C04...for pic http://www.adteknik.se/picture/16.jpg

It's the same chips who is placed in the free-pay-tv-smartcards, and the software i use is http://www.adteknik.se/software/mpgm5.zip and it works fine

has anyone successfuly changed IMEI on a 5110?.., must I be kinda super-duper-hacker to do this kind of thing? =)

luuk 03-24-2000 13:04

Someone know how to use this hex file?
It contains in "eeprom pack.zip" and the name is "5110_511.hex".., there is about 10 different versions in this pack only for the 5110 model
Is about 2KB..., a normal eeprom-hex for the 5110 is about 6BK

:10000000010A46032F006F034F03F00E2500A304DF
:100010000400480C0200FF0C060006070D0A060645
:100020000F0A01022E00110CAE0003042E03590C1E
:100030002D000607190A61000607110AF60C0607CB
:10004000110A81000607110A03071C0AED00430785
:100050001B0A0607290A0602FE0C06001F0CAE0941
:10006000000CAE09100CAE09400CAE09000CAE0934
:10007000040CAE09000CAE09010CAE09640CAE090B
:10008000010CAE09010CAE092E0CAE09FF0C0600E6
:100090001A0C2C00A009EC0043074A0AD6090607EF
:1000A0004F0A0602FE0C06001F0CAE09000CAE093A
:1000B000100CAE097F0CAE09020CAE09000CAE09A3
:1000C000000CAE09000CAE09000CAE09000CAE0924
:1000D000000CAE09000CAE09000CAE09D6091F0CCD
:1000E000AE09000CAE09100CAE09400CAE09000CB4
:1000F000AE090A0CAE09000CAE09010CAE09D50C14
:10010000AE09020CAE09000CAE09100CAE09B10C20
:10011000AE09AC0CAE09010CAE09010CAE090C0C19
:10012000AE09920CAE09FF0C0600390C2C00A00998
:10013000EC004307970A06079B0A060203000B0A16
:100140000607A00A0606A20A61000B0C29000E028F
:10015000D0096100E9004307A70A00082A006B00E4
:10016000080C2900660061000E02D00961002A0314
:100170000307BD0A0605AB02BE0A06040E02D0093B
:100180006100E9004307B70A0B07C80A0604C90A59
:1001900006050E02D009610006050E02D00900080E
:1001A0002700070281000307D10A0008FA0C2D007E
:0C01B0000E02D009ED004307D80A000839
:021FFE000200DF
:00000001FF

Isn't there any program that can calculate a working CRC?
Alex thanx for helping me, can u describe a little more exactly.. from your last entry..?, I didn't understand witch telephone and so.., and what did u mean about good programmer? what difference is it between a good and a bad?

X-Shadow 03-24-2000 17:08

To Bph&co,

Yes you are right about CRC, but mind you
that I was trying to make things very simple.

Anyway, the reason why all locks are closed
because the Checksums or the CRC in the
EEPROM does not match the Checksum and CRC
in the Cobba, MCU, etc. The phone is not
actually locked, but totally disabled and
no unlocker can unlock it. It is useless to
copy other phone's eeprom even with same
version. Changing the imei on the other
EEPROM to match the original EEPROM will
still not solve your problem. The EEPROM
is heavily secured and a single byte that
is not correct will automaticaly disable
the phone, especially if this byte is part
of the IMEI or the lock infos.

You can however remove the locks via EEPROM
modification with correct checksums alone
and not CRC because the lock info is only stored in the EEPROM (I dont know if this is
true for newer versions). But even if your
phone is unlocked, it will still not connect
to any network because of mismatching CRC in
different chips. So it is still useless...

EEPROM rebuilding can be done, however you
still need a TDF-4 Box to flash the phone
again to calcutlate for the right CRCs and
checksums.

Using another phone as a experiment unit will
still not solve your calculation problems
since every phone uses a different "key byte"
to calculte for the proper hex information.
Same software version may mean same algorithm
but still the "key byte" is different so
still useless http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif

Practically, it is very hard to restore IMEI.
When I had this problem, I destroyed the
24C16 by heating the IC. Then I assembled
the 5110 again. Turn it on and saw "Contact
Serivce". While the phone was still on, I
dropped it inside a glass filled with water.
Now phone is totally destroyed! The next
morning I went to nokia service center to
have it fixed ;p They tried to dry the PCB
and realized that EEPROM was burned. They
think that the water caused the EEPROM to
be short circuited and thus burning. Heheheh,
they replaced the PCB and fixed the phone
that I destroyed for me http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/smile.gif

Do not try to ask the service center to fix
your phone normally. They will know that you
tried to play with the EEPROM and thus they
will not fix it even if you pay them http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif

Best Regards,
Linuz

X-Shadow 03-24-2000 17:10

To Bph&co,

Yes you are right about CRC, but mind you
that I was trying to make things very simple.

Anyway, the reason why all locks are closed
because the Checksums or the CRC in the
EEPROM does not match the Checksum and CRC
in the Cobba, MCU, etc. The phone is not
actually locked, but totally disabled and
no unlocker can unlock it. It is useless to
copy other phone's eeprom even with same
version. Changing the imei on the other
EEPROM to match the original EEPROM will
still not solve your problem. The EEPROM
is heavily secured and a single byte that
is not correct will automaticaly disable
the phone, especially if this byte is part
of the IMEI or the lock infos.

You can however remove the locks via EEPROM
modification with correct checksums alone
and not CRC because the lock info is only stored in the EEPROM (I dont know if this is
true for newer versions). But even if your
phone is unlocked, it will still not connect
to any network because of mismatching CRC in
different chips. So it is still useless...

EEPROM rebuilding can be done, however you
still need a TDF-4 Box to flash the phone
again to calcutlate for the right CRCs and
checksums.

Using another phone as a experiment unit will
still not solve your calculation problems
since every phone uses a different "key byte"
to calculte for the proper hex information.
Same software version may mean same algorithm
but still the "key byte" is different so
still useless http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif

Practically, it is very hard to restore IMEI.
When I had this problem, I destroyed the
24C16 by heating the IC. Then I assembled
the 5110 again. Turn it on and saw "Contact
Serivce". While the phone was still on, I
dropped it inside a glass filled with water.
Now phone is totally destroyed! The next
morning I went to nokia service center to
have it fixed ;p They tried to dry the PCB
and realized that EEPROM was burned. They
think that the water caused the EEPROM to
be short circuited and thus burning. Heheheh,
they replaced the PCB and fixed the phone
that I destroyed for me http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/smile.gif

Do not try to ask the service center to fix
your phone normally. They will know that you
tried to play with the EEPROM and thus they
will not fix it even if you pay them http://www.thoic.com/gsm/ubb/frown.gif

Best Regards,
Linuz

BiG 03-24-2000 18:00

Hello!
Do anyone heard about Nokiasolutions?.They says that they got an IMEI-changer that doesen“t need TDF-4. I don“t know if I should believe them...please help me...

Bph&co 03-24-2000 23:14

Hi everybody,
I never tryed to offend anybody, I just
tryed to be useful. If somebody feels bad
about me , I'm sorry.
To X-Shadow - you can get new soldering
iron - maybe Weller, and you'll never over
heat the chips. For me good programmer is
Ice Technology's WinLV 48. It can read every
thing( 29F800 - FlashChip aswell). But is
not cheap. I think if you see the prices for
the software ,that some fellas whant, you
you'll get the feeling that you get your
programmer for free. Just for example -
that guy from NokiaSolutions whant £800 for
IMEI changin' program.
I prefer to see on my bench Logic Analizer from Hewlet Packard then a sh*t program.
Luuk I never told you told to put different
eeprom content. I've told you to try to unlock another phone with the same program
and see which fields are changed after that.
I told you to make a back up of the serial
just in case if this hapend again.
When you know which part of the .hex is
changed you can make some atempts to fix
them. It's better to try with something that
you know then entire 16k file!
Luuk if you think is to difficult just give
it to the Nokia Service.

Thanks

Alex


KingOfKingston 03-25-2000 02:40

A friend of mine has just completed the schematics and built a mini-programmer for eeproms, at a total cost of under £5 (5 uk pounds). He has also put the software + diagrams + photos on his site (for free)for promming the eeprom.
http://www.tigger.uk.com

He is a real cool, and very intelligent dude, go see for yourself and build your own prommer (100% working) instead of paying sh*t loads of money to companies.

Good Luck.

If u like his progger, say so.

Thankx

K Of K

luuk 03-26-2000 01:44

ok.. when i can see network (when my reciever works), but i can't get in to, no access to an operator.., is my IMEI denied?

heh..my cellphone still reboots.., but some of u guys told me to reset it in wintesla..it works.., but next time i reboot the phone it will be the same.., someone have the same problem?

time 4 bed now.. =) seeya

PS. what must i do for gettin access to the other "secret web-boards" ?

And one more question.., has anyone heard of an MOD-CHIP for Playstation 2? what type and so on.. (12C508) ?

vipcards 08-11-2006 15:24

thank`s thank`s thank`s

vipcards 08-11-2006 15:29

What's is a good eeprom-programmer?


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