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Old 07-29-2003, 18:29   #1 (permalink)
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6210 stupid problem


Hiya

Spent 2 days and still moving in circles...

Received phone tottaly dead with " phone ram is bad "...
I've changed flash, write good firmware and eeprom, etc...

NOw phone works fine untill key 8 is pressed. No matter how slightly i press it, phone just restarts or hangs up... Any other key works fine...

I have changed other 2 flash chips, ccont,V450, 26MHz, 32768kHz, and hagar and still same...Rehot cpu thru board, still same...

Even bigger problem is i have 20-30 pcs with same fault...


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Old 07-29-2003, 20:53   #2 (permalink)
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Replacing the whole PCB will solve your problem.

I have one 3410 with "paralel test failed" . . . Broken track, i've changed all BGA's incl. CPU and still the same . . .
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Old 07-29-2003, 21:58   #3 (permalink)
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You can try by changing the Ram memory :d

You've said that was the first problem of your phone.Ram is very important in a mobile phone.
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Re: 6210 stupid problem

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Hiya

Spent 2 days and still moving in circles...

Received phone tottaly dead with " phone ram is bad "...
I've changed flash, write good firmware and eeprom, etc...

NOw phone works fine untill key 8 is pressed. No matter how slightly i press it, phone just restarts or hangs up... Any other key works fine...

I have changed other 2 flash chips, ccont,V450, 26MHz, 32768kHz, and hagar and still same...Rehot cpu thru board, still same...

Even bigger problem is i have 20-30 pcs with same fault...
I think this is CPU problem, because keypad ROW and COL lines are connected directly to MAD2.

You say that phone sometimes "restart" and sometimes "hangs".... so I think that it is NOT problem with broken balls underneath CPU or broken PCB lines under CPU (you said that "no matter how slightly you press it") ... so this leads me to conclusion: MAD2 faulty...

If it is RAM or FLASH problem, all keys on some COL or ROW would be affected... but again .... 20-30 pcs .... it is very strange!
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your reasoning is 101% logical.....i agree that the problem in normally from dry/broken MAD2 BGA Balls...

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@fludor:

If flash chip is shortcircuited or u have overload on data/adress lines then flasher will report bad ram...Take it off and u have flash id unknown 00000000 error....

@ rest: thanks for answers guys.... I have suspicion on mad2 so i changed it... Same thing.....
Maybe it could be damage in PCB ( row and col lines )... BUt why only key 8??? Logically, if mad is broken whole row or col of keypad will hang or restart phone...

Anyway i still playing with those phones....

I forgot to say, all phones i receive are NMP rejects...:-)



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P.S. Anyone ever seen 6210 ( or any other nokia ) powering up without hagar ( just leds, no display no flashing ) ??? I was amazed when i discovered this phone without hagar inside...It powers up leds and after 30sec they go off...Just leds nothing else working of course...Funny
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Anyway i still playing with those phones....

I forgot to say, all phones i receive are NMP rejects...:-)

hmm... -> spare parts bin

Where did you get them, what price?

Regards!
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Well...

I repaired about 60 pcs...
Same NMP rejects, but very easy to repair... Mostly hagar and ant.sw...

But rest is really crap...


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i have the same problem .

i'm not good in hardwaer but i changed audio IC & reflash good flash 4m now my phone work 100%
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