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10-03-2001, 08:07 | #1 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: EGYPT Age: 44
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Member: 2583 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.88702 Thanks Meter: 203 | lets share our info about 33XX hang problems . - somtimes phone starts and hangs v.v.fast .. before viewing startup logo .. somtimes after it ... many secs just then restarts itself . - somtimes phone restarts when receiving call or making call .. after pressing call direct . - somtimes phone works well except if i try to press anykey .. if i pressed anykey .. phone restarts . !! - this i got in 3330 just .. phone here stops when trying to enter ringtone Menu .. in all this cases i tried replacing MCU&PPM .. and somtimes upgrade firmware too ..<br />i think its Hw problems but HOw to slove it .. help plzz .. or tell me your opinion ..<br />lets share our info .. |
10-03-2001, 18:52 | #2 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: INDIA
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Member: 4223 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4 | Hello there... For Hanging problem u have to Remove only the Inducor...(L511)... It Solves the Hang Probloem.. As far as from yr post I think u have the problem of Auto On/Off problem.. For Auto on/off Problem there is no need to change anything.. One can Solve this Problem by just interchanging the R217 and R301.. Try this may b it will solve yr Problem... For Exact Location of R217 and R301 ... Have a look at Service mannual... Visit lndy's page if some one need 3310 service Mannual... Good Luck... <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> |
10-04-2001, 00:56 | #3 (permalink) |
Insane Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Yugoslavia
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Member: 4206 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2 | >-- somtimes phone starts and hangs v.v.fast .. before viewing startup logo .. somtimes after it ... many secs just then restarts itself .<br />---------<br />Damage Flash IC(in 90% cases ST flash IC),read full flash, then replace with new one and write flash back to the phone.<br />Be carefully... |
10-04-2001, 01:44 | #4 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Behind the Wall
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Member: 1778 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | Hi again,<br />Some months ago I wrote a lot for this problem. There is no need to REMOVE ANYTHING from Nokia's PCB! If You remove L511, Nokia becomes unstable when transmiting. There is risk of transmition failure and unstable reception. This L511 is used to decrease capacitance of PCB (for high frequencies in our case 13MHz system clock).<br />Two resistors are like filters and it is bad decision to change or replace. Most problems of hanging are in system clock. Look at the shematics, think a little more and You will find out right solution.<br />For keyboard hanging, in most cases there is hardware problem in keyboard controller (inside MAD), this is IRQ problem and can not be solved anymore. But You can try to clean keyboard pads and keyboard PCB. Some times it helps.<br />If some body is interesting in more info, can mail to [email protected] with "33xx HANGS" subject. Please don't mail "Send this solution to me" or similar mails. We are specialists in GSM unlocking and must think with our heads! I can help everybody who can think!<br />Best regards<br />Assen |
10-04-2001, 18:31 | #5 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: RP Age: 48
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Member: 5246 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 9 | I agree with gsm_boy. But rather that interchanging R217 and R301, just got a tester and set to x10K and measure from a 3210 board a 1K network resitor to replace R301. You can find 2 or 3 near COBBA IC from 3210s. Try it, this also solves hanging problems. |
10-05-2001, 07:57 | #6 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: EGYPT Age: 44
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Member: 2583 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.88702 Thanks Meter: 203 | hi , <br />thnx .v.v.v.much for this replied .. i have more than 7 phones now with many problems but 1000% all auto power off ...<br />didn't sloved by L511 anyway ...<br />so i'll try with this solutions and tell u results but i hope that anyone know anything about this problem .. tell us here plz .. |
10-05-2001, 09:30 | #7 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: GSMLAND
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Member: 5764 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2 | I got 3 phones with auto turn off problem. Removed L511 on all of three phones, but only one phone is working normal after that. Two others - the one now is not auto turn off, but it sometimes loose network and battery is running out quickly while talking. The other - it didn't help at all- All the same...<br />let's share other solutions |
10-05-2001, 11:36 | #8 (permalink) |
Insane Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: GSM
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Member: 6542 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | [quote]Originally posted by Sat:<br /><strong>I got 3 phones with auto turn off problem. Removed L511 on all of three phones, but only one phone is working normal after that. Two others - the one now is not auto turn off, but it sometimes loose network and battery is running out quickly while talking. The other - it didn't help at all- All the same...<br />let's share other solutions</strong><hr></blockquote> Hi<br />For battery dranning 90% of the time problem is in pfo, try replacing that. Farha |
10-05-2001, 14:50 | #9 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: INDIA
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Member: 4223 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4 | Hello Again.... As far as my Epereance There is No need to Add another Part from any where for Auto On/off Problem... Only inter changing of that two Register will solve all Problem... So everyone who have this problem must try at leas interchanging of two register... Just try at once u will get good Results <img src="wink.gif" border="0"> .. Good Luck <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> |
10-05-2001, 21:57 | #10 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Behind the Wall
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Member: 1778 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | Hi again!<br />As I wrote few days ago, there is a little mistake in Nokia shematics. I think, engineers in Nokia have changed this, but here are some words for this problem again.<br />MAD2 CPU runs in 13MHz clock. If this clock is bad, not stable pulse leves, MAD2 freezes and watchdog timer shuts down the phone. This You can see using socilloscope and control 26MHz clock signal from clock generator and 13MHz clock form HAGAR. See Nokia service documentation for more info.<br />AGAN, WHO IS INTERESTING IN THIS PROBLEM, CAN MAIL PRIVATE AT [email protected]<br />Best regards<br />Assen |
10-06-2001, 09:05 | #12 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: EGYPT Age: 44
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Member: 2583 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.88702 Thanks Meter: 203 | Hi , i really can't replace or interchange R301 cuz its in hard place to work in and am not prof. to remove it and interchange with another .. maybe i lost tracks .. when in the scheme itsn't easy to find another point if i lost tracks ..hmmmmmmm there is any advice about removing/changing R's like that ? |
10-09-2001, 09:02 | #15 (permalink) |
Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Mongolia
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Member: 4034 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0 | HI! friends I have same problem auto turned off/on. I can't repair it by by change two resistor, remove L511, change PA, change oscillator 26MHz and change Flash IC but no success phone is still auto off/on mode. PLease, let's talk about this problem. Thanks, Ganaa |
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