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De Moon · 08-03-2004, 17:42

IMEI - what is inside?
I mean, does anybody know how to recognize phone by IMEI (with internal eprom, or with external)???
THNX

Burnt Cobba · 08-03-2004, 18:20

what do you mean?

al

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 06:47

I mean: How could I know what type of eprom is inside (internal or external) without opening phone??? Could I read it by IMEI ?

Burnt Cobba · 08-04-2004, 06:50

Most of the phones nowadays have the eerpom area emulated in the flash.

I don't think there are any left with an physical eeprom for the new models.

That was a nice time

.... for sure not coming back.

br
al

**.:hack3r2k:.** · 08-04-2004, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnt Cobba

Most of the phones nowadays have the eerpom area emulated in the flash.

I don't think there are any left with an physical eeprom for the new models.

That was a nice time

.... for sure not coming back.

br
al

Hi !

All new models have the eeprom emulated in flash. The last model that used external eeprom was MC3000 if i remember well. And yes any phone model can be recognized by IMEI

... you can see that feature in New Sagem Calculator available at www.hack3r2k.com at SALES ...

Br

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 08:35

I am asking about old versions MC MW Sagems.

Burnt Cobba · 08-04-2004, 09:22

Hi Metal slugger

by saying recognized by IMEI do u mean for all phones (all brands) or for your Sagem disciples?

By knowing this what advantage will it have??

MC 920 has eeprom separatly .. it is at the bottom near the charging connector. Presume all the MC **** is like that. MW not much experience due to the very bad performance sagem used to have in the past. Nowadays things have changed at last to the good side

br
al

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 09:45

Can you tell me about MC922, MW930, MC939 models. How to recognize which eprom is inside only by IMEI ?

**.:hack3r2k:.** · 08-04-2004, 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burnt Cobba

Hi Metal slugger

by saying recognized by IMEI do u mean for all phones (all brands) or for your Sagem disciples?

By knowing this what advantage will it have??

MC 920 has eeprom separatly .. it is at the bottom near the charging connector. Presume all the MC **** is like that. MW not much experience due to the very bad performance sagem used to have in the past. Nowadays things have changed at last to the good side

br
al

Not only SAGEM. You can detect model by IMEI for all GSM phones ... this offcourse if the original imei wasn't alterated.

@De Moon:
Give the imei and i will tell u which model it is and if has external or internal eepr.

Br

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 11:09

1st-332049363333970
2nd-332118724591416
3rd-332114720040797
4th-332118825544199

[Rod] · 08-04-2004, 11:15

how to know the model by the imei... kind of weird!

**.:hack3r2k:.** · 08-04-2004, 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Moon

1st-332049363333970
2nd-332118724591416
3rd-332114720040797
4th-332118825544199

1st. MC939 internal eeprom
2nd. MC922 external eeprom
3rd. MC922 external eeprom
4th MC922 external eeprom

Br

@[RoD]:

What is IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity)?

IMEI is a unique for each phone 15-digit number that represents the mobile phone`s code. Its divided in 4 parts (see table below).

TAC FAC SN SP
XXXXXX XX XXXXXX XX

TAC (Type Approval Code): The first 2 numbers of TAC define in which country this phone was approved.
FAC (Final Assembly Code): This code defines where the phone was assembled (manufacturer). These are FAC codes of some manufacturers:

Here are some examples:

FAC Manufacturer
01, 02, 65 AEG
07, 40 Motorola
10, 20 Nokia
30 Ericsson
40, 41, 44 Siemens
50 Bosch
51 Siemens, Sony, Ericsson
60 Alcatel
61 Ericsson
80 Philips
85 Panasonic

etc and the list may go on. Anyway here are just some ex. The list is really long

SN (Serial Number): This code is handset`s serial number.
SP (Spare): Luhn Check Digit.

Br

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 13:35

I now that its possible to russify MC939 with externat eprom. What numbers should I find in IMEI???

**.:hack3r2k:.** · 08-04-2004, 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by De Moon

I now that its possible to russify MC939 with externat eprom. What numbers should I find in IMEI???

You don't need the imei for flashing it. Yeah ... you russify it.

Br

De Moon · 08-04-2004, 16:06

Yes, I dont need IMEI for flashing Sagem, but my friend told me that he will buy for me some Sagems (MC939, MW930) in Germany. So I want to tell him which phones he should buy, and which not. I do not want to buy sagems, that I could not russify.
Help me PLZ

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De Moon Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belarus Age: 37 Posts: 73 Member: 43581 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I mean: How could I know what type of eprom is inside (internal or external) without opening phone??? Could I read it by IMEI ?

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Burnt Cobba No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Green Mile Posts: 3,633 Member: 11325 Status: Offline Thanks: 93 Thanked 266 Times in 189 Posts	Most of the phones nowadays have the eerpom area emulated in the flash. I don't think there are any left with an physical eeprom for the new models. That was a nice time .... for sure not coming back. br al

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De Moon Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belarus Age: 37 Posts: 73 Member: 43581 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am asking about old versions MC MW Sagems.

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Burnt Cobba No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: The Green Mile Posts: 3,633 Member: 11325 Status: Offline Thanks: 93 Thanked 266 Times in 189 Posts	Hi Metal slugger by saying recognized by IMEI do u mean for all phones (all brands) or for your Sagem disciples? By knowing this what advantage will it have?? MC 920 has eeprom separatly .. it is at the bottom near the charging connector. Presume all the MC **** is like that. MW not much experience due to the very bad performance sagem used to have in the past. Nowadays things have changed at last to the good side br al

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De Moon Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belarus Age: 37 Posts: 73 Member: 43581 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can you tell me about MC922, MW930, MC939 models. How to recognize which eprom is inside only by IMEI ?

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De Moon Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Belarus Age: 37 Posts: 73 Member: 43581 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, I dont need IMEI for flashing Sagem, but my friend told me that he will buy for me some Sagems (MC939, MW930) in Germany. So I want to tell him which phones he should buy, and which not. I do not want to buy sagems, that I could not russify. Help me PLZ