About HWK, its team and its buiness way - GSM-Forum

Raskal · 08-08-2005, 12:02

DO NOT BUY HWK if you no need it yet, no one konw what happens tomorrow.

The HWK team try at the moment sell as many as possible for a hight price. Of course did the HWK team never mentionned that the HWK does not offer any security solong Saras is using the same ATMEGA8 in his boxes, this is also the reason Saras started making another box (plattform) few months ago, and this means new box new cash. The HWK is only a "reason" to get some more money for the boxes sold. They have to be fast, this is one of the reasons they delete "not nice" posts from their HWK section.

They are selling that they can kill the boxes which are using the patched HWK software, but they do not say that it is very easy revive this boxes again. Yesterday i posted someting in a discussion in the HWK support forum, they deleted it, as i expected because they just want to hide it.

Later i will publish gerber files from saras new box and also the procedure and software how to revive a "dead" box if any exist yet

B.R.,
Raskal

Raskal · 08-08-2005, 12:17

PCB files for new box using an new very powerfull arm based MCU from Philips. My friend suggest him to use this kind of MCU, and first he laugh about us and say Philps make only Toaster, and finally he is using it as well.

B.R.,
Raskal

Sethxp · 08-08-2005, 13:31

hmmm, programable electronics can be always revived until smashed with hammer.

must agree with you that this is bad business tactics, if its true. theyre name will be cursed many times, but lot of people will buy new platform from them even if it happens, like history repeating with other past products from other teams....

nothing to say more

regards
Sethxp

08-08-2005, 14:15

@Raskul

So, you advice people to buy cracked KZF license from you, and "special offer JAF" if possible ?

Smart a$$, hehehhe.

You're again acting like pizdobol.

James_S · 08-08-2005, 17:03

Raskal: It's not very nice to talk about your opponoments in pucblic like that... Even if it's true. I know they do the same, but you have the oppotunity to show who's "grown up".

One more thing: Before this issue with saras and the 4000 "broken" HWK, you were going to sell the HWK's... Wouldn't this be like shooting yourself in the foot?

Btw: I do think you are right about the hwk-team strategy, and i'm very happy i didn't buy one.

Raskal · 08-08-2005, 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by legija

@Raskul

So, you advice people to buy cracked KZF license from you, and "special offer JAF" if possible ?

Smart a$$, hehehhe.

You're again acting like pizdobol.

I did not advice to buy any crack, i said to wait. Read post again. In fact "pizdobols" are those ones who do not send back the "damaged" HWKs and some other stuff, and of course the ones which preferr to delete or edit posts instead to give a propper answer.

Read also this, too much words there, no need additional comments.

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=225043

B.R.,
Raskal

klaus4 · 08-08-2005, 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by legija

@Raskul

So, you advice people to buy cracked KZF license from you, and "special offer JAF" if possible ?

Smart a$$, hehehhe.

You're again acting like pizdobol.

True Words...

Raskal · 08-08-2005, 20:36

@Legija

what is this hot software for? You can explain it to the users, if you have no time, i can make tomorrow an user manual.

http://forums.****************/showthr...2051#post32051

Sorry because i posted it there, but i can not attach it here because the file is too big.

B.R.,
Raskal

p.s. pizdobol is the one not respect others...

Gsmhq · 08-08-2005, 21:11

Thanks Raskal

it can be useful tool this one :=)

08-08-2005, 21:21

Good move raskal. Now you can freely sell clones, not trough you china slaves.
Bravo !

Raskal · 08-08-2005, 21:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by legija

Good move raskal. Now you can freely sell clones, not trough you china slaves.
Bravo !

Hehe, clones? This software is made by saras, we using it for making the twister boxes, but you know that of course.

I have no slaves in china dear, i respect my staff, at least they no need call me "SIR" ...

Have you ever think about the SCENARIO (c)Saras if the HWK string calculation is free available, and 80% of the users use it, what will Saras do? Kill all boxes

I tell you another, more realistic and normal SCENARIO (c) Saras.

1 step: pack 4000 pcs. "damaged" hwk in box
2 step: call dhl and send back to owner (me)
3 step: parcel delivered

This SCENARIO (c) Saras is the normal procedure

B.R.,
Raskal

Charly · 08-08-2005, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal

Hehe, clones? This software is made by saras, we using it for making the twister boxes, but you know that of course.

I have no slaves in china dear, i respect my staff, at least they no need call me "SIR" ...

Have you ever think about the SCENARIO (c)Saras if the HWK string calculation is free available, and 80% of the users use it, what will Saras do? Kill all boxes

I tell you another, more realistic and normal SCENARIO (c) Saras.

1 step: pack 4000 pcs. "damaged" hwk in box
2 step: call dhl and send back to owner (me)
3 step: parcel delivered

This SCENARIO (c) Saras is the normal procedure

B.R.,
Raskal

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Fonefingz · 08-08-2005, 22:43

does this mean the end of twister aswell..

as it seems you ( raskal ) and saras have some sort of disagreement??

MrHaWeKa · 08-08-2005, 22:59

Interessant, interessant. Da kommt wieder Arbeit auf mich zu. Packen wir's an.

zulea · 08-08-2005, 23:01

Hi,

Just downlaod UFS Maintenance v20 from here:

http://66.147.239.13/UFS_Maintenance_v20.zip

This will solve MANY of your problems

Also, having this software NO MORE SCARES about cloned/cracked software who destroy UFS, Twister, ...

Best regards,
Zulea

08-08-2005, 12:02	#1 (permalink)
Raskal Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55 Posts: 14,535 Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328	About HWK, its team and its buiness way DO NOT BUY HWK if you no need it yet, no one konw what happens tomorrow. The HWK team try at the moment sell as many as possible for a hight price. Of course did the HWK team never mentionned that the HWK does not offer any security solong Saras is using the same ATMEGA8 in his boxes, this is also the reason Saras started making another box (plattform) few months ago, and this means new box new cash. The HWK is only a "reason" to get some more money for the boxes sold. They have to be fast, this is one of the reasons they delete "not nice" posts from their HWK section. They are selling that they can kill the boxes which are using the patched HWK software, but they do not say that it is very easy revive this boxes again. Yesterday i posted someting in a discussion in the HWK support forum, they deleted it, as i expected because they just want to hide it. Later i will publish gerber files from saras new box and also the procedure and software how to revive a "dead" box if any exist yet B.R., Raskal Last edited by Raskal; 01-18-2007 at 17:20.

08-08-2005, 12:17	#2 (permalink)
Raskal Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55 Posts: 14,535 Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328	PCB files for new box using an new very powerfull arm based MCU from Philips. My friend suggest him to use this kind of MCU, and first he laugh about us and say Philps make only Toaster, and finally he is using it as well. B.R., Raskal Last edited by Raskal; 01-18-2007 at 17:20.

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08-08-2005, 13:31	#3 (permalink)
Sethxp Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Czech republic Age: 43 Posts: 479 Member: 9291 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 84	hmmm, programable electronics can be always revived until smashed with hammer. must agree with you that this is bad business tactics, if its true. theyre name will be cursed many times, but lot of people will buy new platform from them even if it happens, like history repeating with other past products from other teams.... nothing to say more regards Sethxp

08-08-2005, 14:15	#4 (permalink)
legija Guest Posts: n/a Member:	@Raskul So, you advice people to buy cracked KZF license from you, and "special offer JAF" if possible ? Smart a$$, hehehhe. You're again acting like pizdobol.

08-08-2005, 17:03	#5 (permalink)
James_S No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 54 Posts: 1,726 Member: 105625 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 44	Raskal: It's not very nice to talk about your opponoments in pucblic like that... Even if it's true. I know they do the same, but you have the oppotunity to show who's "grown up". One more thing: Before this issue with saras and the 4000 "broken" HWK, you were going to sell the HWK's... Wouldn't this be like shooting yourself in the foot? Btw: I do think you are right about the hwk-team strategy, and i'm very happy i didn't buy one.

08-08-2005, 20:36	#8 (permalink)
Raskal Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55 Posts: 14,535 Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328	@Legija what is this hot software for? You can explain it to the users, if you have no time, i can make tomorrow an user manual. http://forums.****************/showthr...2051#post32051 Sorry because i posted it there, but i can not attach it here because the file is too big. B.R., Raskal p.s. pizdobol is the one not respect others...

08-08-2005, 21:11	#9 (permalink)
Gsmhq No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Sweden Age: 45 Posts: 768 Member: 739 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks Raskal it can be useful tool this one :=)

08-08-2005, 21:21	#10 (permalink)
legija Guest Posts: n/a Member:	Good move raskal. Now you can freely sell clones, not trough you china slaves. Bravo !

08-08-2005, 22:43	#13 (permalink)
Fonefingz No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: east london Age: 36 Posts: 645 Member: 32195 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5	does this mean the end of twister aswell.. as it seems you ( raskal ) and saras have some sort of disagreement??

08-08-2005, 22:59	#14 (permalink)
MrHaWeKa Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Member: 167222 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Interessant, interessant. Da kommt wieder Arbeit auf mich zu. Packen wir's an.

08-08-2005, 23:01	#15 (permalink)
zulea No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Inside Raskal pocket Age: 54 Posts: 3,316 Member: 5325 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8,448	Hi, Just downlaod UFS Maintenance v20 from here: http://66.147.239.13/UFS_Maintenance_v20.zip This will solve MANY of your problems Also, having this software NO MORE SCARES about cloned/cracked software who destroy UFS, Twister, ... Best regards, Zulea