Clone HWK .. HID's - GSM-Forum

twisterfan · 11-09-2006, 21:08

Does anyone know if the HID of HWK Clones are all the same or different for every one of them ?

Additional question : If they are all different would it be totally wrong to assume that the HID is somehow derived from the unique factory lasered ID inside the DS2432..

And lastly : Who has the 160 bit MAC that saras used to protect the data

Twisterfan

Bohosh · 11-09-2006, 21:27

Most of them are with same HID numbers!!!!

twisterfan · 11-09-2006, 22:13

Ok..

If most are with same HID numbers and we can easily change the serial on the ufs box would it be fair to assume that people with same HID and same box serial would also get the same request and activation files for HWKreplacer..

Twisterfan

andre128 · 11-10-2006, 03:24

but the problem is who gonna to share...

ribbentrop · 11-10-2006, 05:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bohosh

Most of them are with same HID numbers!!!!

Are you sure ??? Did you see two DS with '' the same HID numbers '' ??

twisterfan · 11-10-2006, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ribbentrop

Are you sure ??? Did you see two DS with '' the same HID numbers '' ??

1. Who says that they actually use the unique number inside the DS to generate the HID...

2. How hard would it be for a programmer to reprogram the processor to not use the DS ID as the seed for the HID but rather just use a HID that is programmed into the HWK processor ...

Twisterfan

ribbentrop · 11-10-2006, 18:05

Wow .... it's hard work ... only UniSoft did it . Try to write full emulator for DS2432

Jhay-r · 12-02-2006, 11:10

full emulator won't work not unless you have the algo for it's 160 bit encryption....

and 160 bit mac encryption is a strong encryption specially using counter mode with cbc-mac...

btw....

how did you know it's 160bit????

i've trying to look for its encryptiuon for a while....

thanks mate...

it helps me a lot...

twisterfan · 12-02-2006, 16:26

@jhay-r

I dont know for sure that they use 160 bit but looking at the datasheet for the ds2432 i can see that it uses a 160 bit key.

Twisterfan

shankar9922 · 02-06-2014, 08:21

Please tell me how to repair my hwk

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11-09-2006, 21:08	#1 (permalink)
twisterfan No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 48 Posts: 1,308 Member: 53791 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 17	Clone HWK .. HID's Does anyone know if the HID of HWK Clones are all the same or different for every one of them ? Additional question : If they are all different would it be totally wrong to assume that the HID is somehow derived from the unique factory lasered ID inside the DS2432.. And lastly : Who has the 160 bit MAC that saras used to protect the data Twisterfan Last edited by twisterfan; 11-09-2006 at 21:23.

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Jhay-r No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 40 Posts: 726 Member: 109036 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 56	it won't work full emulator won't work not unless you have the algo for it's 160 bit encryption.... and 160 bit mac encryption is a strong encryption specially using counter mode with cbc-mac... btw.... how did you know it's 160bit???? i've trying to look for its encryptiuon for a while.... thanks mate... it helps me a lot...

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shankar9922 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 8 Member: 2089220 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	HWK hid corruped Please tell me how to repair my hwk Server Stutus is-Support Error Support:Bad Hid Cannot Access Support

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twisterfan No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 48 Posts: 1,308 Member: 53791 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 17	@jhay-r I dont know for sure that they use 160 bit but looking at the datasheet for the ds2432 i can see that it uses a 160 bit key. Twisterfan