Is Testpoint solutions the future of Moto unlocking? - GSM-Forum

James_S · 01-26-2006, 12:44

Are all these testpoint solutions final solutions, or is it just a temporary solution while working on direct solution?

I'm getting really worry, since all new motorola phones require testpoints.

FoneFixUk · 01-26-2006, 14:39

i have heard that there is a server being made which will use credits but dunno how much truth there is in it!

EDV11 · 01-26-2006, 15:53

My worry is not about the testpoints, but about having to take the shield apart from the phone, and therefore, loosing warranty on every single phone...

thcoms · 01-26-2006, 16:15

And customers not happy to let you open their brand new phone.

ViperGSM · 01-26-2006, 16:29

I would be very happy if testpoints are needed in all future models

That would make one button unlockers think well before opening the phone

chowdary · 01-26-2006, 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperGSM

I would be very happy if testpoints are needed in all future models

That would make one button unlockers think well before opening the phone

IT IS NOT ABOUT ONE BUTTON JOB OR OPENING A PHONE
IT IS ABOUT DAMAGING A BRAND NEW PHONE
I WOULD NEVER LET ANYONE DRILL OR USE DREMEL ON MY BRAND NEW PHONE
SO TEST POINT IS OK AS TEMPORARY UNLOCK SOLUTION BUT NOT A PERMANENT
BR

thcoms · 01-26-2006, 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowdary

IT IS NOT ABOUT ONE BUTTON JOB OR OPENING A PHONE
IT IS ABOUT DAMAGING A BRAND NEW PHONE
I WOULD NEVER LET ANYONE DRILL OR USE DREMEL ON MY BRAND NEW PHONE
SO TEST POINT IS OK AS TEMPORARY UNLOCK SOLUTION BUT NOT A PERMANENT
BR

Couldn't have put it any better myself, can you imaging the look on a customer face when you are cracking open thier brand new phone, the s h i t would hit the fan.

Dave.W · 01-26-2006, 18:41

sorry but as "profesional", i dont do any work infront of a customer.

i am very happy to open/cut/solder/drill any customers phone, cos i am careful/competent and practice on broken phones first..

i am with viper sorry, i love test points cos we can charge a good money for the job. they cannot go to the chip shop next door and get it done for £5...

if you are worried about stripping/drilling phones best leave to a professional

gjurobrod · 01-26-2006, 18:54

Sure,

you´re right about less competition.

But u HAVE to inform a *******r that you´re going to drill/damage his phone.

And that is the point when 40% of them say:
"Thx, but no thx!"

And codes are to expensive now ...

BR gjurobrod

bogym · 01-26-2006, 19:03

yes, maybe 20% of customers will say ''thx, but no thx", but 80% will understand that the only solution for a working phone is to open the phone, isn't it?

BR
BogyM.

Dave.W · 01-26-2006, 19:04

we do tell customer; "unlocking this phone will invalidate your waranty" but they all say "carry on".

we do not say about "drilling holes" as this seems unprofessional in my opinion. maybe sounds like "we are going to hammer your phone"

daiphil · 01-26-2006, 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave.W

we do tell customer; "unlocking this phone will invalidate your waranty" but they all say "carry on".
we do not say about "drilling holes" as this seems unprofessional in my opinion. maybe sounds like "we are going to hammer your phone"

Aye ur not concerned about bcos u make big money, so think of the little guy's, u grabbing money ****.We are all here to help each other, and these guy's have bought smart-clip, so lets us all have the direct unlocking solution, if all guy's where like u m8, smart-clip would only keep on coming out with updates for test-points.

babaunlocker · 01-26-2006, 20:57

Yes Future is of unlocking via TP or log files, including partial flashing, Smart-Unlocker does not support it, than what will do the users of Smart-Unlocker Do.

WBR

simlockgsm · 01-26-2006, 21:11

You've heard of "murphy's law" right?
besides. like the other folks said, regardless of your work, the phone is no longer covered under warranty.
Thats really the issue here. wait till a customer has to send their phone back to motorola and then are told they arent covered because the phone was disassembled and modified. Guess where they're gonna go to try and re-coupe their losses???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave.W

sorry but as "profesional", i dont do any work infront of a customer.
i am very happy to open/cut/solder/drill any customers phone, cos i am careful/competent and practice on broken phones first..
i am with viper sorry, i love test points cos we can charge a good money for the job. they cannot go to the chip shop next door and get it done for £5...
if you are worried about stripping/drilling phones best leave to a professional

tostefo · 01-26-2006, 21:28

all unlocking will invalidate customer warranty.....so all customrs know this....they know unlocking/unbranding phones is for sure lose operator warranty.........so test point is good enouth for professionals and we can earn some money for our "cheap unlocker friends" because all of them like one button unlockers and if they not so better with drilling/rehoting they will pay customer's phones.........so hard unlocking is better this can make them to think for which bussines they are

01-26-2006, 12:44	#1 (permalink)
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01-26-2006, 14:39	#2 (permalink)
FoneFixUk Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Liverpool, UK Age: 40 Posts: 261 Member: 75232 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	i have heard that there is a server being made which will use credits but dunno how much truth there is in it!

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EDV11 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 737 Member: 9489 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 35	My worry is not about the testpoints, but about having to take the shield apart from the phone, and therefore, loosing warranty on every single phone...

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thcoms No Life Poster Join Date: May 2005 Location: U.K. Age: 56 Posts: 711 Member: 142512 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	And customers not happy to let you open their brand new phone.

01-26-2006, 16:29	#5 (permalink)
ViperGSM No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Serbia Age: 40 Posts: 871 Member: 49634 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.1671023 Thanks Meter: 71	I would be very happy if testpoints are needed in all future models That would make one button unlockers think well before opening the phone

01-26-2006, 18:41	#8 (permalink)
Dave.W No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Age: 41 Posts: 2,821 Member: 7653 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 823	sorry but as "profesional", i dont do any work infront of a customer. i am very happy to open/cut/solder/drill any customers phone, cos i am careful/competent and practice on broken phones first.. i am with viper sorry, i love test points cos we can charge a good money for the job. they cannot go to the chip shop next door and get it done for £5... if you are worried about stripping/drilling phones best leave to a professional

01-26-2006, 18:54	#9 (permalink)
gjurobrod No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wien,Austria Posts: 906 Member: 45985 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 96	Sure, you´re right about less competition. But u HAVE to inform a *******r that you´re going to drill/damage his phone. And that is the point when 40% of them say: "Thx, but no thx!" And codes are to expensive now ... BR gjurobrod

01-26-2006, 19:03	#10 (permalink)
bogym Freak Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Romania Age: 42 Posts: 122 Member: 48872 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	yes, maybe 20% of customers will say ''thx, but no thx", but 80% will understand that the only solution for a working phone is to open the phone, isn't it? BR BogyM.

01-26-2006, 19:04	#11 (permalink)
Dave.W No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Age: 41 Posts: 2,821 Member: 7653 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 823	we do tell customer; "unlocking this phone will invalidate your waranty" but they all say "carry on". we do not say about "drilling holes" as this seems unprofessional in my opinion. maybe sounds like "we are going to hammer your phone"

01-26-2006, 20:57	#13 (permalink)
babaunlocker Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Gujrat, Pakistan Age: 51 Posts: 199 Member: 170432 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	Yes Future is of unlocking via TP or log files, including partial flashing, Smart-Unlocker does not support it, than what will do the users of Smart-Unlocker Do. WBR

01-26-2006, 21:28	#15 (permalink)
tostefo No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sofia Age: 43 Posts: 1,541 Member: 77941 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 120	all unlocking will invalidate customer warranty.....so all customrs know this....they know unlocking/unbranding phones is for sure lose operator warranty.........so test point is good enouth for professionals and we can earn some money for our "cheap unlocker friends" because all of them like one button unlockers and if they not so better with drilling/rehoting they will pay customer's phones.........so hard unlocking is better this can make them to think for which bussines they are