Could this be the end of unlocking in the UK? - GSM-Forum

Essential GSM · 12-19-2004, 13:52

http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/artman/...cle_1205.shtml

Could start an avalanche of cases bought forward by manufacturers.

Let's hope not.......

DMD · 12-19-2004, 14:01

Not too cool at all

Luckily I'm not in the UK but like everything else it will start here eventually

Regards D.

fonetech · 12-19-2004, 14:09

NEC are just bitter, they aint recieving nothing from me if I get the e-mail bar a letter from my solicitor as its not illegal to unlock mobile phones and its not breaching any of there copyright so they can stick there e-mail where the sun dont shine

Dips · 12-19-2004, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonetech

NEC are just bitter, they aint recieving nothing from me if I get the e-mail bar a letter from my solicitor as its not illegal to unlock mobile phones and its not breaching any of there copyright so they can stick there e-mail where the sun dont shine

Too right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Essential GSM · 12-19-2004, 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonetech

NEC are just bitter

I think 3 is the bitter party here, NEC are just acting on 3's orders.

blaiseid · 12-19-2004, 14:55

Very bad, specially the UK based Unlockers.

Salam

mfreaks · 12-19-2004, 15:09

Hasn't that link been posted here somewhere before?
Or was it somewhere else..

Anyway you can't blame that article, & in a way as long as unlocking developers who sell there products to us unlockers & it doesn't break any infringement, nothing to worry about as far as I can see.

jbes · 12-19-2004, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by fonetech

NEC are just bitter, they aint recieving nothing from me if I get the e-mail bar a letter from my solicitor as its not illegal to unlock mobile phones and its not breaching any of there copyright so they can stick there e-mail where the sun dont shine

Here Here

They tried a selling ploy and got bit right on the ***.Thats life. no good crying about it now.

fonetech · 12-19-2004, 16:38

I would love to be a fly on the wall when they checked there figures

NEC units sold = 576,000
New 3G Pay As You Go Customers = 4
Money Lost = Mucho Casho

If they concentrated on sorting out there crap coverage and there stupid PAYG plan instead of paying huge amounts to solicitors who havent got a case and stupid adverts that just annoy people !!!

3G are a company who a destined to lose money, they have from the start and will continue to do so until they have a major change

yeldar · 12-19-2004, 17:22

It will not stop unlocking in UK.

Quite simply because it is NOT illegal to unlock a handset, and NEC & 3G are just pissed off because they subsidised the NEC handsets and now that people are unlocking them and box-splitting, they cannot recoup costing on them through 3G network top-ups!!

If they try to make unlocking illegal in UK, it will be 3G that will lose out because many people want handsets but not the network because it is still very poor reception in a lot of area's and it will surely be their downfall......but it will not and cannot happen!!

The network operators make around millions each year from unlocking their own handsets, and to stop would also mean customers would not be able to port numbers across to other networks which will lose them revenue too!!

3G & NEC are playing a very dangwerous game and I can can imagine that other network operators will be shaking thjeir heads over this qhole fiasco.......end of the day, it was their decision to release a £150 handset for £30 - WHAT DO THEY EXPECT????

krusty.spritz · 12-19-2004, 19:10

here here, i agree totaly with yeldar 100%

AlexG · 12-20-2004, 01:09

Yawn old news....

Also agree with Yeldar tho!

jbes · 12-20-2004, 01:14

3G

now means

3Grand

this is how much they lose per minute because of bad reception and even worse talktime plans

Mr Hutchinson should have stuck with Orange

blaiseid · 12-20-2004, 06:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeldar

It will not stop unlocking in UK.

Quite simply because it is NOT illegal to unlock a handset, and NEC & 3G are just pissed off because they subsidised the NEC handsets and now that people are unlocking them and box-splitting, they cannot recoup costing on them through 3G network top-ups!!

If they try to make unlocking illegal in UK, it will be 3G that will lose out because many people want handsets but not the network because it is still very poor reception in a lot of area's and it will surely be their downfall......but it will not and cannot happen!!

The network operators make around millions each year from unlocking their own handsets, and to stop would also mean customers would not be able to port numbers across to other networks which will lose them revenue too!!

3G & NEC are playing a very dangwerous game and I can can imagine that other network operators will be shaking thjeir heads over this qhole fiasco.......end of the day, it was their decision to release a £150 handset for £30 - WHAT DO THEY EXPECT????

You made it clear.

They will be the Loosers.

Salam

..::COZEC::.. · 12-20-2004, 09:01

Unlocking will not stop in the UK .

The current action of NEC and "3" in the uk will eventually separate the men from the boys cos when the going get tough the tough gets going.

In actual fact it is three that is trying to spoil business for everybody by selling an handset worth about 500pound for 45pound expecting user to stay stuck with them for up to 12 months in this information age.(bad business strategy)

I think smart unlockers in the uk should think up a way of protecting their business from this recurring harrasement from this operators who keep looking for ways of keeping people hostage to their networks.

Tell NEC good that product will keep their customer coming back. And to "3" that good services and better reception will cause their customers to stick with them ,not tricks and coding.

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12-19-2004, 14:01	#2 (permalink)
DMD No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CTSA Age: 46 Posts: 2,194 Member: 12660 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7	Not too cool at all Luckily I'm not in the UK but like everything else it will start here eventually Regards D.

12-19-2004, 14:09	#3 (permalink)
fonetech No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 898 Member: 15837 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	NEC are just bitter, they aint recieving nothing from me if I get the e-mail bar a letter from my solicitor as its not illegal to unlock mobile phones and its not breaching any of there copyright so they can stick there e-mail where the sun dont shine

12-19-2004, 14:55	#6 (permalink)
blaiseid No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Town City Age: 54 Posts: 3,485 Member: 37735 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.103255 Thanks Meter: 205	Very bad, specially the UK based Unlockers. Salam

12-19-2004, 15:09	#7 (permalink)
mfreaks Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Crawley - West Sussex UK Age: 59 Posts: 238 Member: 92770 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Hasn't that link been posted here somewhere before? Or was it somewhere else.. Anyway you can't blame that article, & in a way as long as unlocking developers who sell there products to us unlockers & it doesn't break any infringement, nothing to worry about as far as I can see.

12-19-2004, 16:38	#9 (permalink)
fonetech No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 898 Member: 15837 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	I would love to be a fly on the wall when they checked there figures NEC units sold = 576,000 New 3G Pay As You Go Customers = 4 Money Lost = Mucho Casho If they concentrated on sorting out there crap coverage and there stupid PAYG plan instead of paying huge amounts to solicitors who havent got a case and stupid adverts that just annoy people !!! 3G are a company who a destined to lose money, they have from the start and will continue to do so until they have a major change

12-19-2004, 17:22	#10 (permalink)
yeldar No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK/España Age: 54 Posts: 1,595 Member: 12578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 60	It will not stop unlocking in UK. Quite simply because it is NOT illegal to unlock a handset, and NEC & 3G are just pissed off because they subsidised the NEC handsets and now that people are unlocking them and box-splitting, they cannot recoup costing on them through 3G network top-ups!! If they try to make unlocking illegal in UK, it will be 3G that will lose out because many people want handsets but not the network because it is still very poor reception in a lot of area's and it will surely be their downfall......but it will not and cannot happen!! The network operators make around millions each year from unlocking their own handsets, and to stop would also mean customers would not be able to port numbers across to other networks which will lose them revenue too!! 3G & NEC are playing a very dangwerous game and I can can imagine that other network operators will be shaking thjeir heads over this qhole fiasco.......end of the day, it was their decision to release a £150 handset for £30 - WHAT DO THEY EXPECT????

12-19-2004, 19:10	#11 (permalink)
krusty.spritz Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2002 Age: 54 Posts: 332 Member: 14045 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	here here, i agree totaly with yeldar 100%

12-20-2004, 01:09	#12 (permalink)
AlexG No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 668 Member: 5243 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 80	Yawn old news.... Also agree with Yeldar tho!

12-20-2004, 01:14	#13 (permalink)
jbes Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: South Wales UK Age: 54 Posts: 300 Member: 1169 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 59	3G now means 3Grand this is how much they lose per minute because of bad reception and even worse talktime plans Mr Hutchinson should have stuck with Orange

12-20-2004, 09:01	#15 (permalink)
..::COZEC::.. Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: UK Posts: 139 Member: 122726 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Unlocking will not stop in the UK . The current action of NEC and "3" in the uk will eventually separate the men from the boys cos when the going get tough the tough gets going. In actual fact it is three that is trying to spoil business for everybody by selling an handset worth about 500pound for 45pound expecting user to stay stuck with them for up to 12 months in this information age.(bad business strategy) I think smart unlockers in the uk should think up a way of protecting their business from this recurring harrasement from this operators who keep looking for ways of keeping people hostage to their networks. Tell NEC good that product will keep their customer coming back. And to "3" that good services and better reception will cause their customers to stick with them ,not tricks and coding.