evaluation/review of Sonics Box - GSM-Forum

Dark Lemming · 05-16-2005, 15:49

after being away for a couple of time, and after a couple of months using this box, i think i can now place a "final" judgment about this piece of hardware:

for those who don't know it already, sonics box is a sonyericsson hardware made for flashing/unlocking/repairing. although now it supports other brands, it's mostly a se box.

right now, supported phones are:

old se (r/t/p series) - via divusb
new se (k/s/v/z series) - via sonics setools
lg 3g (se hardware) - via sonics setools
philips (3xx/5xx/6xx/8xx) - via philips tools

for more information about supportted models, visit www.sonicsbox.com

enough with the intro. now for the "review":

many people complain and attack sonics for being an SETool clone (www.setool.net) + div clone + old ufs/griffin clone all-in-one. as a matter of fact, i do believe it's partially true, since divusb has been cloned a long time ago, and i don't believe zulea is behind the div rights of this box. also old samsung + nokia soft (available from old support of ufobox, although not officially supported) look ALOT like Griffin Nokia and ALOT like Twister/UFS Samsung soft.

so, if there are clones inside these box, only the authors can confirm.

also, and more directly to the core of the box, the new sonyericsson tool also looks alike the SETool and has exactly the same features, so you can expect to do with this one just about the same you would do with a twister+setool license, with the huge advantage of not being limited to a specific hardware fingerprint.

about the softs, lets go one by one:

divusb: very unstable with certain phones. can't boot alot of T610/T630 (with or without RSA). it's mostly an inherited feature, since original divusb also had this problems. if you can boot, your phone, everything works like a charm, so once booted, no problems found so far

sonics se tools: this is the core of the box. with this, you can unlock, repair, flash, customize, read/write gdfs ... all you could ask. it only lacks the abillity to create upgrade flashes (so you can update a firmware without loosing all data). the only problem with this program is in the gdfs part, in which i get errors in many phones. reading gdfs in first versions was no problem, but in the most recent versions, i can't seem to create a single gdfs backup of K700 and K500 phones. maybe a fix in the next versions can solve this issue.
you can also unlock flash LG3G phones (which basically are SE phones inside). until now, no problems found using lg option, but then again, i have flashed only one unit.

philips tools: philips are not much popular in my country, so i don't have much experience with this part of the software, although a couple of 330 and 825 already went down with this box, and it was all ok. i haven't flashed any philips unit yet, so no comments on that department.

old nokia/old samsung ufo soft: besides working ok with some supported phones i tested, i'll not have any further comments on that, since it's not official software for the sonics.

drivers: here is the major flaw (which is good, since it's not a big issue at all), and in my opinion, the reason why gdfs can't be readed and some T630 can't boot in div. the drivers are inconsistent. they are not stable. in some pc's you can install the default drivers, in other you have to install some "modified" drivers, so the box can be recognized. and even then, you may experience some stabillity issues, like a K700 not booting after trying 4 or 5 times, and by changing usb port everything goes fine, and after a while, you'll have to change to the first port, because the actual is not letting the phone boot too.

in resume:

- this is a great box for SE + LG3G + some Philips if you need to use it in more than one computer, and it's perfect if unlocking is the mostly used feature. for flashing is very nice too, but due to stabillity problems, you may have to try booting a couple of times, which will make the process take longer (and you don't want to keep your *******r waiting). LG3G and Philips are great add-ons for a box in this price range, and we would like to see a couple of more brands being implemented, since i'm sure this box has a great potential and with a little more stabillity in drivers and software, you could make even a more generic box.

- what's really TERRIBLE is the support server speeds. they can go as low as 1KB/s, but i'm sure the company is doing it's best to find an affordable but fast server for us all (although latelly i can reach 10KB/s in most days i need to download from the support).

i'll leave a suggestion: since this a such a low consumption hardware, why don't you try to make a ubs-com emulation (like a virtual comport)? it would be nice for us to use other softs with your box.

so here you have my vision. please note that this is just an opinion of my particular case. i hope everyone finds this post usefull, as for current users, for future users and for the creators, so they can improve the box.

hitibiti · 05-16-2005, 16:09

sonic box is the best box
and rocket clip is good clip ,if will support other model like nokia motorolla and.....
will be greattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Clip

ASHIF · 05-16-2005, 20:20

SonicsBox is working good and its users are satisfied with it!!!!!!!!!

Mony.Never.Die · 05-16-2005, 21:12

sonics box is the best box realy

B.R
Mony.Never.Die
Www.MonyMobileService.coM

mobileland · 05-16-2005, 22:27

Sonic box is just an SETOOL clone.Nokia, Philips and Samsung softs are completely non working.
Sonic box is also a dead box, because SETOOL will no longer have lacks in security.
SETOOL dongle is ready, and I must say that everyone that buy this lante's product will not be able to unlock new cid36 phones ...
Why?
Because Redeagle will no longer be able to copy-paste anything from SETOOL.

So story is over.Sonic customers will stay without further support.

Bye, bye...

Redeagle · 05-17-2005, 01:35

@Dark Lemming
Thanks for your impersonal evaluations and remarks. We'll try our best...
best regards
Sonics Team

Redeagle · 05-17-2005, 04:56

@mobileland
This is SONICS BOX forum. I think that i'd remind you that you've promised that you would never talk nonsense here a few days ago. Could you control yourself like a man?

DMD · 05-17-2005, 07:17

@ Redeagle

To date I have had no problem with your box, except for bugs in older software versions but thats expected.

Keep up the good work

Regards D.

05-17-2005, 08:09

@redeagle

where is updates, why did you stop it?
setool2 stop the updates and revisions, so do you .. wierd isn't it?

hmm wierd, you guys add 'z800_r1y005' a week or two - after setool and after that NO updates for SE.

there is nothing more to explain, a picture say more than thousand words.

andrew14 · 05-17-2005, 08:35

hoping also for z500a unlock and flash.............

thnx in adv

ryumahon · 05-18-2005, 05:38

only problem for me with sonics box is.. it cant unlock z500a... and darklemming is right your server really *****!!! its very slow!!! but when it comes to unlocking other SE, sonics for me is the best. very fast and reliable and also for lg phones.. never tried with philips yet..

dexydie · 09-30-2005, 22:06

it just clone of SE TOOLS. This box is not good... just the name is good (for publicity)

if u want good tools for SE then buy CRUISER or SE TOOLS or both

.

05-16-2005, 15:49	#1 (permalink)
Dark Lemming Freak Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Portugal Posts: 463 Member: 2785 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	evaluation/review of Sonics Box after being away for a couple of time, and after a couple of months using this box, i think i can now place a "final" judgment about this piece of hardware: for those who don't know it already, sonics box is a sonyericsson hardware made for flashing/unlocking/repairing. although now it supports other brands, it's mostly a se box. right now, supported phones are: old se (r/t/p series) - via divusb new se (k/s/v/z series) - via sonics setools lg 3g (se hardware) - via sonics setools philips (3xx/5xx/6xx/8xx) - via philips tools for more information about supportted models, visit www.sonicsbox.com enough with the intro. now for the "review": many people complain and attack sonics for being an SETool clone (www.setool.net) + div clone + old ufs/griffin clone all-in-one. as a matter of fact, i do believe it's partially true, since divusb has been cloned a long time ago, and i don't believe zulea is behind the div rights of this box. also old samsung + nokia soft (available from old support of ufobox, although not officially supported) look ALOT like Griffin Nokia and ALOT like Twister/UFS Samsung soft. so, if there are clones inside these box, only the authors can confirm. also, and more directly to the core of the box, the new sonyericsson tool also looks alike the SETool and has exactly the same features, so you can expect to do with this one just about the same you would do with a twister+setool license, with the huge advantage of not being limited to a specific hardware fingerprint. about the softs, lets go one by one: divusb: very unstable with certain phones. can't boot alot of T610/T630 (with or without RSA). it's mostly an inherited feature, since original divusb also had this problems. if you can boot, your phone, everything works like a charm, so once booted, no problems found so far sonics se tools: this is the core of the box. with this, you can unlock, repair, flash, customize, read/write gdfs ... all you could ask. it only lacks the abillity to create upgrade flashes (so you can update a firmware without loosing all data). the only problem with this program is in the gdfs part, in which i get errors in many phones. reading gdfs in first versions was no problem, but in the most recent versions, i can't seem to create a single gdfs backup of K700 and K500 phones. maybe a fix in the next versions can solve this issue. you can also unlock flash LG3G phones (which basically are SE phones inside). until now, no problems found using lg option, but then again, i have flashed only one unit. philips tools: philips are not much popular in my country, so i don't have much experience with this part of the software, although a couple of 330 and 825 already went down with this box, and it was all ok. i haven't flashed any philips unit yet, so no comments on that department. old nokia/old samsung ufo soft: besides working ok with some supported phones i tested, i'll not have any further comments on that, since it's not official software for the sonics. drivers: here is the major flaw (which is good, since it's not a big issue at all), and in my opinion, the reason why gdfs can't be readed and some T630 can't boot in div. the drivers are inconsistent. they are not stable. in some pc's you can install the default drivers, in other you have to install some "modified" drivers, so the box can be recognized. and even then, you may experience some stabillity issues, like a K700 not booting after trying 4 or 5 times, and by changing usb port everything goes fine, and after a while, you'll have to change to the first port, because the actual is not letting the phone boot too. in resume: - this is a great box for SE + LG3G + some Philips if you need to use it in more than one computer, and it's perfect if unlocking is the mostly used feature. for flashing is very nice too, but due to stabillity problems, you may have to try booting a couple of times, which will make the process take longer (and you don't want to keep your *******r waiting). LG3G and Philips are great add-ons for a box in this price range, and we would like to see a couple of more brands being implemented, since i'm sure this box has a great potential and with a little more stabillity in drivers and software, you could make even a more generic box. - what's really TERRIBLE is the support server speeds. they can go as low as 1KB/s, but i'm sure the company is doing it's best to find an affordable but fast server for us all (although latelly i can reach 10KB/s in most days i need to download from the support). i'll leave a suggestion: since this a such a low consumption hardware, why don't you try to make a ubs-com emulation (like a virtual comport)? it would be nice for us to use other softs with your box. so here you have my vision. please note that this is just an opinion of my particular case. i hope everyone finds this post usefull, as for current users, for future users and for the creators, so they can improve the box.

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05-16-2005, 16:09	#2 (permalink)
hitibiti No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Canada Age: 44 Posts: 8,146 Member: 24023 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.61317 Thanks Meter: 2,630	sonic box is the best box and rocket clip is good clip ,if will support other model like nokia motorolla and..... will be greattttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt Clip

05-16-2005, 20:20	#3 (permalink)
ASHIF No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: 24° 51′ 36″ N, 67° Posts: 2,084 Member: 8353 Status: Offline Sonork: 113276 Thanks Meter: 335	SonicsBox is working good and its users are satisfied with it!!!!!!!!!

05-16-2005, 21:12	#4 (permalink)
Mony.Never.Die Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Egypt / Alexandria Age: 39 Posts: 363 Member: 70045 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.80221 Thanks Meter: 30	sonics box is the best box realy B.R Mony.Never.Die Www.MonyMobileService.coM

05-16-2005, 22:27	#5 (permalink)
mobileland No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: www.X-SIM.me Age: 45 Posts: 2,424 Member: 22955 Status: Offline Sonork: 67574 - Not use it Thanks Meter: 584	Sonic box is just an SETOOL clone.Nokia, Philips and Samsung softs are completely non working. Sonic box is also a dead box, because SETOOL will no longer have lacks in security. SETOOL dongle is ready, and I must say that everyone that buy this lante's product will not be able to unlock new cid36 phones ... Why? Because Redeagle will no longer be able to copy-paste anything from SETOOL. So story is over.Sonic customers will stay without further support. Bye, bye...

05-17-2005, 01:35	#6 (permalink)
Redeagle Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Guangzhou, China Posts: 417 Member: 38039 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	@Dark Lemming Thanks for your impersonal evaluations and remarks. We'll try our best... best regards Sonics Team

05-17-2005, 04:56	#7 (permalink)
Redeagle Freak Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Guangzhou, China Posts: 417 Member: 38039 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	@mobileland This is SONICS BOX forum. I think that i'd remind you that you've promised that you would never talk nonsense here a few days ago. Could you control yourself like a man?

05-17-2005, 07:17	#8 (permalink)
DMD No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CTSA Age: 46 Posts: 2,194 Member: 12660 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7	@ Redeagle To date I have had no problem with your box, except for bugs in older software versions but thats expected. Keep up the good work Regards D.

05-17-2005, 08:35	#10 (permalink)
andrew14 No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: dasma cavite Age: 46 Posts: 1,096 Member: 78367 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	hoping also for z500a unlock and flash............. thnx in adv

05-18-2005, 05:38	#11 (permalink)
ryumahon No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sun Age: 44 Posts: 2,773 Member: 4021 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 782	only problem for me with sonics box is.. it cant unlock z500a... and darklemming is right your server really *****!!! its very slow!!! but when it comes to unlocking other SE, sonics for me is the best. very fast and reliable and also for lg phones.. never tried with philips yet..

09-30-2005, 22:06	#12 (permalink)
dexydie Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 271 Member: 30402 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.108200 Thanks Meter: 8	it just clone of SE TOOLS. This box is not good... just the name is good (for publicity) if u want good tools for SE then buy CRUISER or SE TOOLS or both .