Pinfinder not detected, cant find adapter -- solution - GSM-Forum

Sethxp · 10-16-2008, 11:11

Hi all

I have bad chinese phone with shortcut, pinfinder RED power led went off after connecting cable and after that.

Only green led on pinfinder was on and:

too many retries
cant find adapter
too many retries
cant find adapter
...
.

If your pinfinder is OUT of warranty or you simply dont have time to wait for send it to resseler cos you have big pile of phones to flash on your desk.

here is solution:

my damaged multiplexer was first from left, so if voltage on that blue points is NOT around 3.6 one of them or all in first row are damaged.

regards and maybe put this sticky

Sethxp
Seth

tavoonly · 10-19-2008, 04:39

I have pinfinder module but the green light is not even turn on. I take the measures you say and what I get from these four points is 2.44 in all of them. So what else may I check in order to see what is right and what is wrong with module,

Thanks in advance.

BR,

**InfinitySupport** · 10-19-2008, 13:27

@Sethxp
Thanks a lot for detailed instruction !

@tavoonly
At first check voltage at unibox pin-1, it should be +5v.
For more details check PinFinder manual page-20.

Sethxp · 10-20-2008, 10:31

@tavoonly

so something is shorted.

solution, remove all 8 multiplexers and try to detect box without them.

Seth

kaino147 · 10-21-2008, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sethxp

@tavoonly

so something is shorted.

solution, remove all 8 multiplexers and try to detect box without them.

Seth

Do i have to change those components or what? Pls let me know

tavoonly · 10-22-2008, 04:40

I checked voltage in unibox and it was 0.05V so I did what it says in pinfinder manual and now it is working ok,

Thanks for your replies.

Sethxp · 10-22-2008, 08:02

@kaino147

first, remove all multiplexers and try to detect box without them, if box is sucesfully detected, solder them back, one by one and try to detect box after each multiplexer you will find which is faulty. Multiplexer cost few cents. So if one or more is faulty, simply find which, buy it and change it.

reason why they go bad is that many phones dont have rx/tx in system connector and when you connect power wires and cable to phone, red power led will go off and some shorting happens that can damage multiplexer/s.

part number of multiplexer is

74HC4051 SMD
8channel analog.MX/deMX SO16
price is 0.52c circa

regards

kaino147 · 10-25-2008, 07:38

In my case, pinfinder is detected and program opens fine but pinfinder can't detect phones and also when i press power on in software, normally the red led is supposed to come on and remains steadily on but mine doesn't come on at all. So what do i need to do in this case? Do i need to change all six multiplexers on pinfinder pcb? PLs let me know. Thanks in advance

**InfinitySupport** · 10-26-2008, 14:05

Hello,

If Power LED can not ON after you have pressed \"power\" button you do not need to change multiplexors.
It may be other reason, f.e. power circuit.

Please, check this schematic, it\'s power circuit. Please, check 2 transistors, probably one of it is damaged.

kaino147 · 10-28-2008, 22:50

PLs infinity i must tell u i really don't understand this schematic! I really need need to know where the transistors are located on the pcb. so ill check and replace them immediately. I've almost given up on the pinfinder. PLs help out my situation

kaino147 · 10-29-2008, 03:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinitySupport

Hello,

If Power LED can not ON after you have pressed \"power\" button you do not need to change multiplexors.
It may be other reason, f.e. power circuit.

Please, check this schematic, it\'s power circuit. Please, check 2 transistors, probably one of it is damaged.

Pls infinity help me out, I really don't understand the pic, i'll love th know which transistor to check so i can get it fixed. thanks will love a detailed picture. I dn't seem to understand the one above. Pls help thanks

**InfinitySupport** · 10-29-2008, 10:13

Hello,

PCB has only 2 transistors (small component with 3 legs), please, check it both.

kaino147 · 10-30-2008, 03:41

Ok i've seen it, the problem is will i be able to find it to buy? I'll try and scout for it and post update on how far i've gone. thanks infinity.

adnanali · 10-30-2008, 05:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinitySupport

Hello,

If Power LED can not ON after you have pressed \"power\" button you do not need to change multiplexors.
It may be other reason, f.e. power circuit.

Please, check this schematic, it\'s power circuit. Please, check 2 transistors, probably one of it is damaged.

also use BC847 /equal transistor plz confirm no.s of that equal values transistor

kaino147 · 10-30-2008, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by InfinitySupport

Hello,

PCB has only 2 transistors (small component with 3 legs), please, check it both.

A little detailed pic, pls confirm which is correct the check and change

10-16-2008, 11:11	#1 (permalink)
Sethxp Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Czech republic Age: 43 Posts: 479 Member: 9291 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 84	Pinfinder not detected, cant find adapter -- solution Hi all I have bad chinese phone with shortcut, pinfinder RED power led went off after connecting cable and after that. Only green led on pinfinder was on and: too many retries cant find adapter too many retries cant find adapter ... . If your pinfinder is OUT of warranty or you simply dont have time to wait for send it to resseler cos you have big pile of phones to flash on your desk. here is solution: my damaged multiplexer was first from left, so if voltage on that blue points is NOT around 3.6 one of them or all in first row are damaged. regards and maybe put this sticky Sethxp Seth

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InfinitySupport Product Manager Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: infinity-box Posts: 38,635 Member: 130995 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 35,227	@Sethxp Thanks a lot for detailed instruction ! @tavoonly At first check voltage at unibox pin-1, it should be +5v. For more details check PinFinder manual page-20.

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Sethxp Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Czech republic Age: 43 Posts: 479 Member: 9291 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 84	@tavoonly so something is shorted. solution, remove all 8 multiplexers and try to detect box without them. Seth

10-22-2008, 04:40	#6 (permalink)
tavoonly No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In front of my pc Posts: 868 Member: 586318 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 112	I checked voltage in unibox and it was 0.05V so I did what it says in pinfinder manual and now it is working ok, Thanks for your replies.

10-22-2008, 08:02	#7 (permalink)
Sethxp Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Czech republic Age: 43 Posts: 479 Member: 9291 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 84	@kaino147 first, remove all multiplexers and try to detect box without them, if box is sucesfully detected, solder them back, one by one and try to detect box after each multiplexer you will find which is faulty. Multiplexer cost few cents. So if one or more is faulty, simply find which, buy it and change it. reason why they go bad is that many phones dont have rx/tx in system connector and when you connect power wires and cable to phone, red power led will go off and some shorting happens that can damage multiplexer/s. part number of multiplexer is 74HC4051 SMD 8channel analog.MX/deMX SO16 price is 0.52c circa regards

10-25-2008, 07:38	#8 (permalink)
kaino147 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NIGERIA, DELTA STATE, WARRI Posts: 867 Member: 53891 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 41	In my case, pinfinder is detected and program opens fine but pinfinder can't detect phones and also when i press power on in software, normally the red led is supposed to come on and remains steadily on but mine doesn't come on at all. So what do i need to do in this case? Do i need to change all six multiplexers on pinfinder pcb? PLs let me know. Thanks in advance

10-26-2008, 14:05	#9 (permalink)
InfinitySupport Product Manager Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: infinity-box Posts: 38,635 Member: 130995 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 35,227	Hello, If Power LED can not ON after you have pressed \"power\" button you do not need to change multiplexors. It may be other reason, f.e. power circuit. Please, check this schematic, it\'s power circuit. Please, check 2 transistors, probably one of it is damaged.

10-28-2008, 22:50	#10 (permalink)
kaino147 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NIGERIA, DELTA STATE, WARRI Posts: 867 Member: 53891 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 41	PLs infinity i must tell u i really don't understand this schematic! I really need need to know where the transistors are located on the pcb. so ill check and replace them immediately. I've almost given up on the pinfinder. PLs help out my situation

10-29-2008, 10:13	#12 (permalink)
InfinitySupport Product Manager Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: infinity-box Posts: 38,635 Member: 130995 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 35,227	Hello, PCB has only 2 transistors (small component with 3 legs), please, check it both.

10-30-2008, 03:41	#13 (permalink)
kaino147 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NIGERIA, DELTA STATE, WARRI Posts: 867 Member: 53891 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 41	Ok i've seen it, the problem is will i be able to find it to buy? I'll try and scout for it and post update on how far i've gone. thanks infinity.