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10-18-2005, 11:27
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| Freak Poster   Join Date: May 2003 Location: POLAND Age: 48
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Member: 29669 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1 |  BB5 unlock - the most real way to unlock all of them !! I am watching lots of threads on all forums about unlock BB5. It is really amazing,people write all funny stories,even try to prove that they unlocked them , ha ha. Many people write about GSMUNLOCK ( I will not give here my opinion  about them ) and about Dejan ( wow I could not belive how many people can write posts as Dejan ).And now here is gold idea. WHY NOBODY THINK ABOUT JIC TEAM ??  I mean of course about manager SANDOR (NL) and writer DEEZEL (RO)  They were the first people that really hacked DCT4 !!!!!!!!!!! ... and produced NEELIX - THE FIRST REALLY FULL FUNCTIONAL BOX FOR DCT4,WD2. Maybe it is the best time for THEM again to make something great WBR specially to You Deezel and Sandor diStefano SO PLEASE COME BACK TO US AND DO SOMETHING WITH BB5 |
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10-18-2005, 12:03
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a box
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Member: 142300 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11 | Quote:
Jic and Deezel are too busy with other things to do nokia again.Why work for months to do it and then in 1 day find that 50 other products appear on the market for 99usd? No big money in Nokia anymore sorry my friend... There is 1 big reason why nobody is doing bb5 unlocking and that is that whoever spends big money for solution knows that in 1 week everyone will copy it and good luck to them all!!  | |
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10-18-2005, 12:29
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| Freak Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: POLAND Age: 48
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Member: 29669 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1 |  not exacly As I remember first nokias were unlocked using Neelix II by logs. So it is not nesesery to give it people to clone. It is again possible to make new NEELIX IV and give possibility to unlock phones by logs and use their dongle as hardware protection.It is clear and easy. P.S. I know that Sandor pickup his lots of money and ...... but team still exists and Deezel is still clever powerfull man. So I am afraid that it is again lots of money needed for expiriences. Maybe again from Sandor.Why not to put them to get them more.... At least the truth is that this team can do it So ........ ? |
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10-18-2005, 12:45
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| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: in a box
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10-18-2005, 12:48
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| No Life Poster   Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: gsmdoctor.pl Age: 48
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Member: 2755 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 42 | ...problem is, that everyone smart enough can sniff the communication between logger and phone, even if JTAG will be used, and then implement stolen idea in own software, which of course will be cheaper than original. Then the next one will do the same - and we have chain reaction. Besides, I've heard somewhere, that Dejan announced, that after release BB5 unlock by someone, he will put the solution for free. Smart move, no doubt. |
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10-18-2005, 12:54
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,649
Member: 24435 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4 | man dct4 solution by code calculation was free but we all need box with real support...free not always means not for money...Dejan will sell idea to all those that have nokia phones inside of there boxes...like always noone loose.. |
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10-18-2005, 12:55
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| No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Europe
Posts: 561
Member: 3918 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 15 | Maybe if Zulea and Laser would stop fighting - together they may find a solution for BB5 unlock? Or maybe Saras? I wonder, what if Nokia protect all new models on same way as BB5? Anyway, unlock solution for BB5 (even by logs) would brig a lot of money to inventors! |
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10-18-2005, 13:02
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| Freak Poster  Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: the Netherlands
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10-18-2005, 13:03
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: England Age: 41
Posts: 2,821
Member: 7653 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 823 | Quote:
you can see this by: dct3 faid logger; only cracked when some brainey guy from software engineering background put his mind on cracking that. and i think he will have studdied and reversed log data and reply data to find algo, not sniff... dct4 unlock logs; never cracked dct4 ask to rpl; as i know, not cracked... log is very safe method. only real "brain" can crack that... regards to JIC, i love that team  | |
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10-18-2005, 14:06
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| Moderator   Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Serbia Age: 48
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Member: 163 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 7,777 | @diStefano why don you make "JIC Fun CLub" ?  about BB5 unlock ... it's more simple than you think JTAG (4 wire) is used because with standard approach simlock area cant be accessed (except RPL access) and ... simlock zone is fully rewrited by JTAG approach and after rewriting, phone is unlocked. looks like simlock zone have only few checksums, and can be fully copied from other phone .. about interface ... it's also more simple than you think ... some old hardware can be used, but we still need SOFTWARE exactly - loaders, and flash mapping but that can be solved too. if you ask me "why dont you make it" i will tell you that few smart people (russian brothers) already got all possible info and working on it. b.r. Alexandar. |
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10-18-2005, 15:41
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| Freak Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: POLAND Age: 48
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Member: 29669 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1 | ... @Ronkor2000 I always got help from JIC Team.There was no troubles. @BRKA maybe in Rusia but strange that not for sale If possible sent me details by PM WBR diStefano |
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10-18-2005, 19:53
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Poland Age: 46
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Member: 43823 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 308 | the move of BB5 unlock hardware/logs must be thinked 20 times before relasing since when some crackers will see money they for sure make all invest to make a copy |
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10-18-2005, 20:11
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Midlands, UK
Posts: 782
Member: 57937 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 34 | JIC weren't the first to unlock DCT4, they were way behind on that project, probably by about 6months! Jay from UnlocKing in London were the first to bring out DCT4 unlocking via Logs! and they then brought out a flasher! for them, a very advance flasher for its time, which did tests on the phone, back ups, etc etc. And they worked closely with a team called B-Phreaks, who developed DCT3 unlocking with out partial flashing, "Eeprom Tools" |
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10-18-2005, 20:35
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| No Life Poster  Join Date: Apr 2001
Posts: 786
Member: 4270 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 13 | hi Bphreaks developed eeprom tools but did not develop unlocking without flashing the mcu patch, however it was dejan that released this and he gave the world the direct unlocker and most importantly imei changer not for the purpose changing imei but mainly to repair phones. regards |
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