Which is better a BB5Box or a Genie Universal? - GSM-Forum

jaizee · 10-27-2008, 19:24

Hi everybody,

I wish to inform you that I'm new to this forum.....I found very useful information in this forum and at the end decided to join to seek for advice and as well as to share whenever I can.

Otherwise I'm seeking how to unlock BB5 mobile phone....I came over this website: BB5Box.org and genie-universal.com. Now I'm a bit confuse and would like to know whether both perform the same function or one is better than the other. If anyone can help me on this issue I would be grateful to him/her. Thanks

Afzaal · 10-27-2008, 20:09

i will suggest.
just wait max few more days.
max 7 days.
after that i will suggest u anything with detail of product ;-)

jaizee · 10-28-2008, 05:48

ok thanks for your reply..

jaizee · 10-28-2008, 07:46

Would you mind also to explain to me by the same occasion the difference between BB5 and JAF...whether they are complementary or they can act independently..Of course which is the most recommended. Thanks

gsmbonnie · 10-28-2008, 07:52

I think Genie Universal have more posibility for the future.

jaizee · 10-28-2008, 07:55

Have you had any experience with Genie?

*MaTeOoSh* · 10-28-2008, 10:49

I have a genie, and some comments about it:
1. first of all genie needs good fbus cables - without them, you'll encounter many problems. But, when right cable is used - it works like a charm, absolutely problem-free.
2. B-phreaks don't act in hurry, and they don't put non fully tested solutions to their products. This of course causes, that updates are not comming every day. But when they come - they work on all constellations. This is another advantage.
3. Bph@co is very nice person, ready to share some technical informations, when customer is curious - next advantage.
4. genie is open platform, infact every solution can be ported onto genie's hardware. For example - I'm during porting my VW/Audi CAN diagnostics software to genie. Of course with limited GUI functionality, but it shows, how genie's platform is flexible.

So, if you are a pro, familiar with phoenix (I was not - many faults of genie / phoenix were caused due to my stupidity) and ready to accept, that the updates will not come every week - genie is for you.

g-gabber · 10-28-2008, 11:05

Of cause GENIE is MUCH more better than BB5 Box.
For example Genie Support:
- DCT4+ Direct Unlock ( All models )
- Phoenix FBUS and USB flashing (No need to wait for new 3-party flasher release or so. Genie was first who support n96 & n85).
- BB5 no TP unlocker.
- Open SDK, you can develop own Application.
- Fast Support Server, with Latest firmware.
- Usable with out PC.
- Any many many more

jaizee · 10-29-2008, 19:22

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Of cause GENIE is MUCH more better than BB5 Box.
For example Genie Support:
- DCT4+ Direct Unlock ( All models )
- Phoenix FBUS and USB flashing (No need to wait for new 3-party flasher release or so. Genie was first who support n96 & n85).
- BB5 no TP unlocker.
- Open SDK, you can develop own Application.
- Fast Support Server, with Latest firmware.
- Usable with out PC.
- Any many many more

Thanks for all these information..well..I got one nokia 6233 which I flashed using phoenix. But the process of flashing failed and now the phone power on for some scs and then switched off.

On the otherhand I flashed a nokia N70 and unfortunately once again everything went wrong and the phone did not power on anymore. Would the genie be the solution to my problem?? Does the genie flash Dead Phone??

g-gabber · 10-29-2008, 20:22

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Originally Posted by jaizee

Thanks for all these information..well..I got one nokia 6233 which I flashed using phoenix. But the process of flashing failed and now the phone power on for some scs and then switched off.

On the otherhand I flashed a nokia N70 and unfortunately once again everything went wrong and the phone did not power on anymore. Would the genie be the solution to my problem?? Does the genie flash Dead Phone??

Yes of cause, phoenix support USB dead flashing even FBUS dead flashing.

In case of 6233 you can use USB dead flashing, in case of N70 it depend on firmware version, because old N70 firmware does not support USB dead flashing.

infogsm · 10-29-2008, 23:58

just one advice man !! avoid any product linked to these names :Raskal,Manole,Zulea !! all their products are bad with short life time ! bb5box is one of them ! so without doubts you have to buy Genie clip
br

*MaTeOoSh* · 10-30-2008, 07:54

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Originally Posted by jaizee

Thanks for all these information..well..I got one nokia 6233 which I flashed using phoenix. But the process of flashing failed and now the phone power on for some scs and then switched off.

On the otherhand I flashed a nokia N70 and unfortunately once again everything went wrong and the phone did not power on anymore. Would the genie be the solution to my problem?? Does the genie flash Dead Phone??

..and make sure, that you do not downgrade phone.

jaizee · 10-30-2008, 17:39

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Yes of cause, phoenix support USB dead flashing even FBUS dead flashing.

In case of 6233 you can use USB dead flashing, in case of N70 it depend on firmware version, because old N70 firmware does not support USB dead flashing.
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I tried to flash my Nokia 6233 using phoenix after that failure...but the option "Dead Phone" was not available...and still after several attempts, nothing. I'm wondering "Why?".... or should I think of buying a J.A.F or Genie? Please your advice is most welcome..

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..and make sure, that you do not downgrade phone.

By the way can the product code of a Nokia Phone limit upgrading from one version to another? I'm asking this cause when I take my product code and check for updates on the site Nokia I got the v5.60 available for my nokia 6233....whereas when I take the product code of the phone of my dad which is a Nokia 6233 to check availability of updates on nokia's website, it shows v5.43 available only...Now the question is: Can I change the product code of my dad via NSS in order to be able to update his firmware with the latest version which is "v5.60"?

g-gabber · 10-30-2008, 19:57

Buy Genie and FBUS cables, it will solve all your problems.

xpmobile · 10-30-2008, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaizee

I tried to flash my Nokia 6233 using phoenix after that failure...but the option "Dead Phone" was not available...and still after several attempts, nothing. I'm wondering "Why?".... or should I think of buying a J.A.F or Genie? Please your advice is most welcome..

By the way can the product code of a Nokia Phone limit upgrading from one version to another? I'm asking this cause when I take my product code and check for updates on the site Nokia I got the v5.60 available for my nokia 6233....whereas when I take the product code of the phone of my dad which is a Nokia 6233 to check availability of updates on nokia's website, it shows v5.43 available only...Now the question is: Can I change the product code of my dad via NSS in order to be able to update his firmware with the latest version which is "v5.60"?

Why are you using Phoenix's USB flashing but not Phoenix's Fbus flashing? That's make the different between cracked phoenix/pkd1 on phoenix WITH FLS-5 Fbus flashing on phoenix. Genie is using Phoenix's Fbus flashing.

Yes, you can. But however, if you are using USB flashing, then it will be risky if u killed the phone that doesn't support dead usb flashing.

Best Regards
Alan Tan

10-27-2008, 19:24	#1 (permalink)
jaizee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9 Member: 886415 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Which is better a BB5Box or a Genie Universal? Hi everybody, I wish to inform you that I'm new to this forum.....I found very useful information in this forum and at the end decided to join to seek for advice and as well as to share whenever I can. Otherwise I'm seeking how to unlock BB5 mobile phone....I came over this website: BB5Box.org and genie-universal.com. Now I'm a bit confuse and would like to know whether both perform the same function or one is better than the other. If anyone can help me on this issue I would be grateful to him/her. Thanks

10-28-2008, 10:49	#7 (permalink)
MaTeOoSh No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: gsmdoctor.pl Age: 48 Posts: 1,317 Member: 2755 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 42	I have a genie, and some comments about it: 1. first of all genie needs good fbus cables - without them, you'll encounter many problems. But, when right cable is used - it works like a charm, absolutely problem-free. 2. B-phreaks don't act in hurry, and they don't put non fully tested solutions to their products. This of course causes, that updates are not comming every day. But when they come - they work on all constellations. This is another advantage. 3. Bph@co is very nice person, ready to share some technical informations, when customer is curious - next advantage. 4. genie is open platform, infact every solution can be ported onto genie's hardware. For example - I'm during porting my VW/Audi CAN diagnostics software to genie. Of course with limited GUI functionality, but it shows, how genie's platform is flexible. So, if you are a pro, familiar with phoenix (I was not - many faults of genie / phoenix were caused due to my stupidity) and ready to accept, that the updates will not come every week - genie is for you. Last edited by MaTeOoSh; 10-28-2008 at 10:57.

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10-27-2008, 20:09	#2 (permalink)
Afzaal No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: lets See. Posts: 3,399 Member: 128918 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 282	i will suggest. just wait max few more days. max 7 days. after that i will suggest u anything with detail of product ;-)

10-28-2008, 05:48	#3 (permalink)
jaizee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9 Member: 886415 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	ok thanks for your reply..

10-28-2008, 07:46	#4 (permalink)
jaizee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9 Member: 886415 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Would you mind also to explain to me by the same occasion the difference between BB5 and JAF...whether they are complementary or they can act independently..Of course which is the most recommended. Thanks

10-28-2008, 07:52	#5 (permalink)
gsmbonnie Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 268 Member: 810671 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 105	I think Genie Universal have more posibility for the future.

10-28-2008, 07:55	#6 (permalink)
jaizee Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 9 Member: 886415 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Have you had any experience with Genie?

10-28-2008, 11:05	#8 (permalink)
g-gabber No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 521 Member: 192652 Status: Offline Sonork: No Thanks Meter: 121	Of cause GENIE is MUCH more better than BB5 Box. For example Genie Support: - DCT4+ Direct Unlock ( All models ) - Phoenix FBUS and USB flashing (No need to wait for new 3-party flasher release or so. Genie was first who support n96 & n85). - BB5 no TP unlocker. - Open SDK, you can develop own Application. - Fast Support Server, with Latest firmware. - Usable with out PC. - Any many many more

10-29-2008, 23:58	#11 (permalink)
infogsm Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tunisia Age: 45 Posts: 4,282 Member: 18022 Status: Offline Sonork: 1574868 Thanks Meter: 192	just one advice man !! avoid any product linked to these names :Raskal,Manole,Zulea !! all their products are bad with short life time ! bb5box is one of them ! so without doubts you have to buy Genie clip br

10-30-2008, 19:57	#14 (permalink)
g-gabber No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Yes Posts: 521 Member: 192652 Status: Offline Sonork: No Thanks Meter: 121	Buy Genie and FBUS cables, it will solve all your problems.