Our old friend the N70 - flashing problem

[ManWolf]

I've just spent a while trying to get an N70 upgraded and debranded with the 5.06.09.2.0.1 firmware. Needless to say, it won't finish flashing.

Output from DCTxBB5 is:

1st BOOT : C0,0C
HELEN ID : 17100701
HELEN MODE: 00
HELEN PBID: 40B9A5D2DCD6A8CB942172E8F35083EF2D4E123D
HELEN HASH: 2C05369F57CC3C4CF9E783E83D9B512B
HELEN ROID: AB5E4ADB27A06946
RAP3 ID : 000000010000022600010006000C192101002200
EM 1 ID : 00000232
EM 2 ID : 00000352
RAP3 PBID : 24D0000851A94951E4933961D157323933EBEAA3
RAP3 MODE : 00
RAP3 HASH : E9EFF4BFAA5393217CA6B17755FC3E1401000000
RAP3 ROID : F28A211FCEA7B19D
CMT 1st Boot Ok
CMT 2nd Bt: RAP3Gv2_2nd.fg, Ver: 1.9.2
CMT FLID : 00010002-00000111, Amd No Name
CMT FLCNT : 000000000000000000000000000000000000
CMT 2nd Boot OK
CMT ALGO : RAP3Gv3_algo.fg, Ver: 1.9.3
CMT Alg Boot OK
Erase Area: CMT 0x00000000-0052AB0D
Erase Area: CMT 0x006A0000-006BFFFF
Erase Area: CMT 0x006DF000-006EFFFF
Erase Area: CMT 0x00700000-007EFFFF
CMT FLASH ERASE OK, Time: 00:49
CMT FLASH WRITE OK, Time: 00:47
1st BOOT : C0,0C
HELEN ID : 17100701
HELEN MODE: 00
HELEN PBID: 40B9A5D2DCD6A8CB942172E8F35083EF2D4E123D
HELEN HASH: 2C05369F57CC3C4CF9E783E83D9B512B
HELEN ROID: AB5E4ADB27A06946
RAP3 ID : 000000010000022600010006000C192101002200
EM 1 ID : 00000232
EM 2 ID : 00000352
RAP3 PBID : 24D0000851A94951E4933961D157323933EBEAA3
RAP3 MODE : 00
RAP3 HASH : E9EFF4BFAA5393217CA6B17755FC3E1402000000
RAP3 ROID : F28A211FCEA7B19D
CMT 1st Boot Ok
CMT 2nd Bt: RAP3Gv2_2nd.fg, Ver: 1.9.2
CMT FLID : 00010002-00000111, Amd No Name
CMT FLCNT : 000000000000000000000000000000000000
CMT 2nd Boot OK
CMT ALGO : RAP3Gv3_algo.fg, Ver: 1.9.3
CMT Alg Boot OK
APE 2nd Bt: helen3_2nd.fg, Ver: 1.16.0
ERR: APE 2nd Boot APE ALG: 0700000000B172
Process Failed, Repowering Mobile

So far I've tried 5 and 7 pin cables, with and without Vpp adaptor, the only one that gets me anywhere is 5 pin cable without Vpp.

The AMD No Name worries me somewhat. At least the N70 still boots, but has the old firmware and the custom operator screen still.

So, anyone have any gems of advice for me then?

--

WolfMan

[Gerti]

I have the same problem and i flash with RM99,now the phone is working but is not a good flash.

[ManWolf]

Originally Posted by Gerti

I have the same problem and i flash with RM99,now the phone is working but is not a good flash.

This is definitely an RM-84, I suspect we need updated FIAs for this hardware, but so far I have not found out the detail.

Wonder if Odia can shed any light?

--

WolfMan

[gyuszko]

I had some problem with an N70 today too, I managed to flash it at last.
Try the following: uninstall fia 6.xx package and install 5.51 and dctxbb5 1.4d.

[ManWolf]

Originally Posted by gyuszko

I had some problem with an N70 today too, I managed to flash it at last.
Try the following: uninstall fia 6.xx package and install 5.51 and dctxbb5 1.4d.

I suppose that is one way, but I get a bit irritated when newer versions don't work with phones that I've flashed successfully before.

I may try it out on one of my machines to see if the older version works for me.

--

WolfMan

[Odia The Ultimate]

Originally Posted by gyuszko

Try the following: uninstall fia 6.xx package and install 5.51 and dctxbb5 1.4d.

Not good advise at all, best to say:-

Try the following: uninstall fia 6.xx package and delete your flash folder and then install dctxbb5 1.4e.

I have said it before, DCTx is using a custom set of flash loaders, if you install standard flash packages you will have all sorts of errors. Saras needs to analyse the new flash pack before it will work correctly.

Odia.

[ManWolf]

Originally Posted by Odia The Ultimate

Not good advise at all, best to say:-

Try the following: uninstall fia 6.xx package and delete your flash folder and then install dctxbb5 1.4e.

I have said it before, DCTx is using a custom set of flash loaders, if you install standard flash packages you will have all sorts of errors. Saras needs to analyse the new flash pack before it will work correctly.

Odia.

Yes, in my case I have not installed any fia packages, I'm only using the DCTx installed fia files. My guess is that the phone has a slightly different hardware spec, but I don't quite see why the APE 2nd boot sequence fails, unless it's the loader being too old again.

--

WolfMan

[ManWolf]

Originally Posted by ManWolf

Yes, in my case I have not installed any fia packages, I'm only using the DCTx installed fia files. My guess is that the phone has a slightly different hardware spec, but I don't quite see why the APE 2nd boot sequence fails, unless it's the loader being too old again.

Well, to finish off this tale, this morning I flashed a 6680 (5 pin cable, had horrible problems until I applied finger pressure to the cable header right through the flashing process) and then the N70 which was failing just worked without any problems.

I think a lot of these problems are due to cable connectivity, the Nokia flashing interfaces with spring pins and flat PCB pads look likely to be a bit problematic, and indeed they often are.

This was using DCTxBB5 1.4e software.

--

WolfMan

[gyuszko]

Originally Posted by ManWolf

I think a lot of these problems are due to cable connectivity

WolfMan

yes, that's why I first check connection (clean both phone and cable pins).

[vbfather]

Originally Posted by ManWolf

Well, to finish off this tale, this morning I flashed a 6680 (5 pin cable, had horrible problems until I applied finger pressure to the cable header right through the flashing process) and then the N70 which was failing just worked without any problems.

I think a lot of these problems are due to cable connectivity, the Nokia flashing interfaces with spring pins and flat PCB pads look likely to be a bit problematic, and indeed they often are.

This was using DCTxBB5 1.4e software.

--

WolfMan

true, this is CABLE PROBLEM this happened with me often, just check your cable

BR.,