question about updates on HWk? - Page 2 - GSM-Forum

.:GSM International:. · 07-26-2005, 17:22

@ Odia, no disrespect, but dont you guys think we've already paid enough for the hwk as it is? I mean if it were a fact that u were going to be doing bb5 unlocking, then mate, trust me, i'd be first in the queue, and would fully expect a paid update, but as thats not a reality YET i think that it should be at least a CHEAP update for existing hwk users and then a futher price added on to new hwk sales for bb5 activation, pretty much like jaf

pawaa · 07-26-2005, 17:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rawlinson

@ Odia, no disrespect, but dont you guys think we've already paid enough for the hwk as it is? I mean if it were a fact that u were going to be doing bb5 unlocking, then mate, trust me, i'd be first in the queue, and would fully expect a paid update, but as thats not a reality YET i think that it should be at least a CHEAP update for existing hwk users and then a futher price added on to new hwk sales for bb5 activation, pretty much like jaf

Now you got Mr. Odia's point of view in his last post, update containing BB5 Unlocking will not be free even for HWK owners and next paid update will be Nokia N-Series Unlocking & Flashing.

Ahhaa...

I preffer to be a CellSmith instead of GoldSmith, here is more money.

[PaWaa]

Narry · 07-26-2005, 18:11

hi
the price for unlocking bb5 right some dealers ready to pay half million usd
price per unlocking 1 phone is from 20 euros to 50 euros
how can u expect to get this for 200 usd when u buy hwk
is very strange world here people are having too many expectation

.:GSM International:. · 07-26-2005, 18:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by pawaa

Now you got Mr. Odia's point of view in his last post, update containing BB5 Unlocking will not be free even for HWK owners and next paid update will be Nokia N-Series Unlocking & Flashing.

Ahhaa...

I preffer to be a CellSmith instead of GoldSmith, here is more money.

[PaWaa]

Someone else that obviously cant read, cos Odia clearly states that BB5 update WILL be chargeable, but doesnt know if that will include unlocking, oh, and he says NOTHING about new N series flash/unlock, think before you post!

@ Narry

hi
the price for unlocking bb5 right some dealers ready to pay half million usd
price per unlocking 1 phone is from 20 euros to 50 euros
how can u expect to get this for 200 usd when u buy hwk
is very strange world here people are having too many expectation

At which point did i say that i wanted the BB5 unlock update to be Free or even cheap? I'm well aware just how much the solution is worth, again, read properly before posting, or, even better, spend less time posting rubbish like that and more time getting stock out to customers....

twisterfan · 07-26-2005, 18:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narry

hi
the price for unlocking bb5 right some dealers ready to pay half million usd
price per unlocking 1 phone is from 20 euros to 50 euros
how can u expect to get this for 200 usd when u buy hwk
is very strange world here people are having too many expectation

If you had read the posts right you would have found that this is not what people bicker about..

The thing people are confused about is whether they will have to pay 200 USD for a HWK with "future support" and then finding themselves being made to pay even more money for the BB5 FLASHING features (NOT unlocking) even though they have just paid 200 USD..

Or to put it simply. They find it unfair to have to pay 200USD for a HWK and then maybe they have to pay XX USD in a couple of months for activation of BB5 flashing features..

It has allready been stated that the user WILL have to have a HWK to even be able to get the BB5 update so it is not even possible to just buy the BB5 update when it is released. (Setool users allready have all features of HWK so they only "need" BB5 features to be fully HWK compatible)...

Twisterfan

pawaa · 07-26-2005, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Rawlinson

Someone else that obviously cant read, cos Odia clearly states that BB5 update WILL be chargeable, but doesnt know if that will include unlocking, oh, and he says NOTHING about new N series flash/unlock, think before you post!

Someone else who is obviously having an over_reading_capability consider it a clear statement...

Quote:

Its not been decided if BB5 will be a paid update or not, but 100% the HWK will be at least required.

Odia.

There are so many things which are neither told nor stated but predictable. So “Paid Update for N-Series” is my prediction and a good idea for UFS authors.

[PaWaa]

Gobi · 07-26-2005, 18:48

[glow=red]- Ok, since HWK is the key for the new platforms for Sarasboxes about BB5 FLASHING it must and will be free update for HWK customer.[/glow]
Fair is Fair!

-For BB5 Unlocking and Nseries (...and X and Y series) --> well this will depend of course on the moment of release and market situation.

But nobody can forsee the future, and is better to let the author work and when he succeed with somethin nice, then it is also worth to talk so much about it ... anything else is emtpy talks

regards,
Gobi

Sigma · 07-26-2005, 19:08

thats good: "empty talks" whe are discussing bb5 unlock, but i only know 1 person (D.K) who can do it. So why are we talking about it???

eblaster101 · 07-26-2005, 22:29

simple solution buy the jaff being offered thats what i did because the price is right and i dont mind having the ability to do imei for dct4

chipxtreme · 07-27-2005, 13:59

Well i'm not even considering buying HWK until it supports BB5. I'm in no rush as I've just bought a JAF box for BB5 flashing and DCT4 IMEI change.

gogon · 07-28-2005, 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by chipxtreme

Well i'm not even considering buying HWK until it supports BB5. I'm in no rush as I've just bought a JAF box for BB5 flashing and DCT4 IMEI change.

YES I'm and maybe much people agree wit U.

karwos · 07-28-2005, 09:01

Well, the fair move i think will be (if bb5 unlock will be reality) releasing the smartcard protection for it, same addon like hwk, but of course price, much higher than HWK.

gogon · 07-28-2005, 09:45

We call it MISTERY OF SARAS BOX (about BB5 or IMEI CHANGE)

r3tired · 07-28-2005, 09:46

Karwos, too young and licker.
Better you go and play in Mcdonalds playroom.

.:GSM International:. · 07-28-2005, 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by r3tired

Karwos, too young and licker.
Better you go and play in Mcdonalds playroom.

What? Obviously you havent used the little add-on program that Karwos released for UFS etc users.....Maybe it should be you who goes play in McDonalds playroom

07-26-2005, 18:11	#18 (permalink)
Narry Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: hongkong Age: 55 Posts: 357 Member: 1269 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 485	U needed million usd software for 200 usd hi the price for unlocking bb5 right some dealers ready to pay half million usd price per unlocking 1 phone is from 20 euros to 50 euros how can u expect to get this for 200 usd when u buy hwk is very strange world here people are having too many expectation

07-26-2005, 18:48	#22 (permalink)
Gobi No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: GSM-TOOL Age: 52 Posts: 4,092 Member: 6328 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3,595	[glow=red]- Ok, since HWK is the key for the new platforms for Sarasboxes about BB5 FLASHING it must and will be free update for HWK customer.[/glow] Fair is Fair! -For BB5 Unlocking and Nseries (...and X and Y series) --> well this will depend of course on the moment of release and market situation. But nobody can forsee the future, and is better to let the author work and when he succeed with somethin nice, then it is also worth to talk so much about it ... anything else is emtpy talks regards, Gobi Last edited by Gobi; 07-26-2005 at 18:59.

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07-26-2005, 17:22	#16 (permalink)
.:GSM International:. Cheater -Don't Deal with him- Join Date: Jan 2002 Age: 48 Posts: 4,783 Member: 8879 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.84016 Thanks Meter: 327	@ Odia, no disrespect, but dont you guys think we've already paid enough for the hwk as it is? I mean if it were a fact that u were going to be doing bb5 unlocking, then mate, trust me, i'd be first in the queue, and would fully expect a paid update, but as thats not a reality YET i think that it should be at least a CHEAP update for existing hwk users and then a futher price added on to new hwk sales for bb5 activation, pretty much like jaf

07-26-2005, 19:08	#23 (permalink)
Sigma No Life Poster Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 38 Posts: 882 Member: 38980 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.84054 Thanks Meter: 124	thats good: "empty talks" whe are discussing bb5 unlock, but i only know 1 person (D.K) who can do it. So why are we talking about it???

07-26-2005, 22:29	#24 (permalink)
eblaster101 Freak Poster Join Date: Apr 2005 Age: 42 Posts: 312 Member: 136598 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	simple solution buy the jaff being offered thats what i did because the price is right and i dont mind having the ability to do imei for dct4

07-27-2005, 13:59	#25 (permalink)
chipxtreme Freak Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 199 Member: 163447 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 6	Well i'm not even considering buying HWK until it supports BB5. I'm in no rush as I've just bought a JAF box for BB5 flashing and DCT4 IMEI change.

07-28-2005, 09:01	#27 (permalink)
karwos No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Poland Age: 34 Posts: 4,943 Member: 117496 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.83919 Thanks Meter: 22,689	Well, the fair move i think will be (if bb5 unlock will be reality) releasing the smartcard protection for it, same addon like hwk, but of course price, much higher than HWK.

07-28-2005, 09:45	#28 (permalink)
gogon Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver Age: 51 Posts: 174 Member: 17739 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	We call it MISTERY OF SARAS BOX (about BB5 or IMEI CHANGE)

07-28-2005, 09:46	#29 (permalink)
r3tired Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 63 Posts: 71 Member: 128974 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Karwos, too young and licker. Better you go and play in Mcdonalds playroom.