SME45iv04 and Flash SMS - GSM-Forum

genetic1 · 11-21-2004, 20:10

Hello,

I use patch "send flash sms directly from the phone" and "LCC. Left Characters Countdown".

Now, suddenly it doesn’t work, to send a sms as flash sms.

Don’t know why – I haven’t change anything in phone/patch???

SMS always would be send as normal sms.

What could be the reason – does anybody know? (I don’t forget to add 1 space in the beginning of the message!)

I have some questions about flash sms:

1. How many characters could be send in flash sms (is there a limitation)?
2. What happens, if I send more?
3. What happens, if I get serval flash sms – will they all be displayed in idle?

Hope somebody can help!?

BR

genetic1

lalo.lerry · 11-22-2004, 00:48

Can you post which FlashSMS and LCC patch version are you using?

Answers:
1: Don't know, but I think cannot be more than 1 SMS long.
2. Don't know, try and tell us.
3. No, the last arrived one is "overwritten" over previous one.

genetic1 · 11-22-2004, 09:40

Quote:

1: Don't know, but I think cannot be more than 1 SMS long.

You mean 160 characters?

Quote:

Can you post which FlashSMS and LCC patch version are you using?

Quote:

;*** FLS. Flash SMS Directly from the Phone ***

;Firmware : SME45iv04
;Author : RizaPN,$Lava
;Release : December 15, 2003
;Updated : December 17, 2003 (v3.1)
;Give a possibility to send a Flash SMS directly from the phone
;Add 1 space in the beginning of the message to send it as a flash
;SMS, otherwise it will send as a normal ones.
;Added Unicode support and possibility to change "Flash" symbol

0x4904A6: E6FCFA39 DA87D0CB

0x07CBD0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF E6F2F020D7505700
0x07CBD8: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF F3F34E39F3F24D39
0x07CBE0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 2D0241252D044135
0x07CBE8: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 3D06E7F41800D740
0x07CBF0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 5700F7F43F39E6FC
0x07CBF8: FFFFFFFF FA39DB00

;change "Flash" symbol

;0x07CBD3: 20 21 ; '!'
;0x07CBD3: 20 23 ; '#'
;0x07CBD3: 20 24 ; '$'
;0x07CBD3: 20 25 ; '%'
;0x07CBD3: 20 3A ; ':'
;0x07CBD3: 20 3F ; '?'

Quote:

;*** LCC. Left Characters Contdown ***

;Firmware : S-ME45i v04
;(c) : Lalo
;luki's Siemens Modding Forum
;(i) : ntcn
;Release : 06.09.04 - v2 (add unicode aupport)

;This patch changes left characters contdown when writing an SMS:
;instead of counting from 760 to 0 countdown is splitted in left characters for each single SMS.
;NOTE: SMS free characters lenght varies, because in multiple SMS
;first 8 characters are occupied by header in each SMS.

0x07D9D0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 8840DAFF144EF6F80EFEF0A898E02D09
0x07D9E0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 46FA04018D0326FA04010D0EE6FE4200
0x07D9F0: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 0D0846FA58028D0326FA58020D05E6FE
0x07DA00: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 98005BEEF2FA0CFEDB00F0CAE03DDB00

0x49A22C: DAFF144E DA87D0D9
0x49A240: F0C8E03D DA870ADA

; if you want only one separator character apply these lines;
;3F3B8: 2020 xx00
;7DA0D: 3D 2D

These both patches I've applied.

Is there something "wrong"???

BR

genetic1

lalo.lerry · 11-22-2004, 11:08

I've tried and you are right.
But with 2 spaces it works.
I don't know why, i'll investigate this strange behaviour.
Bye

genetic1 · 11-26-2004, 22:27

Quote:

But with 2 spaces it works.

...but not all the time. I've tested today (my girlfriend too) and both time there is a normal ones received.

Could the reason be the combination of this both patches?

BR

genetic1

lalo.lerry · 11-27-2004, 01:06

Looking back to fw routines, the answer should be:
NO, IMPOSSIBLE they don't "interfere" each others.

But in my patches experiences I found out that sometimes also very distant and apparentely "not-related" routines, are related somehow in the working phone.
So, as usual, the only think to do is TEST it, first with only FlashSMS patch applied than with both ones.

genetic1 · 12-01-2004, 18:45

Quote:

So, as usual, the only think to do is TEST it, first with only FlashSMS patch applied than with both ones.

At the moment I've only FlashSMS patch applied (NO LCC patch). Today I've tested and...I can't get/send a FlashSMS.

Is there a bug in FlashSMS patch?

Did FlashSMS patch work at your mobile(s)?

BTW, if FlashSMS patch is "interfered" by any patch who uses actual very distant and apparentely "not-related" routines, how can we find out, which patch it is?

BR

genetic1

lalo.lerry · 12-02-2004, 04:43

Yes, probably there is just a bug in FlashSMS patch.
No relationship with LCC patch.

I remember there were other newer Russian patch versions, in their forum (Siemens-club.ru).
Maybe they had discovered and fixed this bug.
I cannot find it in my patch "database" (or more properly, patch "mess")

The only sure way to find if patch interfere with one other, is to try to remove one of it.
For this reason, the best way to test (new) patches should be to apply them one by one, using phone for a while each time a new patch is added.
Anyway, it's (very) rare that two patches interfear each other (if not using the same SPs or related starting routines,or using the same free space), and usually an acute observer and deep fw-knowledger can find the missing link, and eventually correct them.

genetic1 · 12-02-2004, 12:30

Quote:

I remember there were other newer Russian patch versions, in their forum (Siemens-club.ru).

Nice tip, but I don't know any russian letter - let alone then any word! Russian language is for me, like for you chinese!

I think you understand a little bit russian language, so would you be nice to give me a more exact tip (forum is large!) or even the exact link to topic!?

Quote:

For this reason, the best way to test (new) patches should be to apply them one by one, using phone for a while each time a new patch is added.

Do you not use flash sms?

lalo.lerry · 12-02-2004, 14:40

No, I don't know Russian, but use a online translator to try to read what they are writing (anyway translation is terrible!).
The x4x page in siemens-club.ru is this:

http://forum.siemens-club.ru/viewboard.php?BoardID=9

No, I don't use FlashSMS patch.

misko903 · 12-06-2004, 08:04

in "send flash sms directly from the phone" doesnt work slovak (or other language) characters. tested

Antoine [KNet]

genetic1 · 12-06-2004, 20:51

...problem is still alive...

@misko903:

I am german - I only use german letters in flash sms all the time.

Any other idea?

genetic1 · 12-12-2004, 19:51

@Lalo:

Hi, my friend...

...now I've got the reason for problem about flash SMS...

Reason is (your) patch "Show calling icon V6"!!!

If you have applied these patch, you can send flash SMS, but if you get a flash ones, it would displayed at normal ones!!!

Hope inormation was usefull???

BR

genetic1

BTW, how can I change flash SMS icon?

lalo.lerry · 12-13-2004, 10:10

I've checked out... in my phone there is not this strange behaviour.
But there are at least 4 type of Flash SMS, I can check only 3...

About changing flash SMS icon in display string, it's possible.
But it's a font icon, you have to search and edit it with SCE.

genetic1 · 12-13-2004, 13:44

Quote:

But it's a font icon, you have to search and edit it with SCE.

I've also thought so - but I have absolutely no idea, where/how I should start searching in fullflash - I only see lots of characters...

11-21-2004, 20:10	#1 (permalink)
genetic1 Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 331 Member: 70990 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	SME45iv04 and Flash SMS Hello, I use patch "send flash sms directly from the phone" and "LCC. Left Characters Countdown". Now, suddenly it doesn’t work, to send a sms as flash sms. Don’t know why – I haven’t change anything in phone/patch??? SMS always would be send as normal sms. What could be the reason – does anybody know? (I don’t forget to add 1 space in the beginning of the message!) I have some questions about flash sms: 1. How many characters could be send in flash sms (is there a limitation)? 2. What happens, if I send more? 3. What happens, if I get serval flash sms – will they all be displayed in idle? Hope somebody can help!? BR genetic1

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11-22-2004, 00:48	#2 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Can you post which FlashSMS and LCC patch version are you using? Answers: 1: Don't know, but I think cannot be more than 1 SMS long. 2. Don't know, try and tell us. 3. No, the last arrived one is "overwritten" over previous one.

11-22-2004, 11:08	#4 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I've tried and you are right. But with 2 spaces it works. I don't know why, i'll investigate this strange behaviour. Bye

11-27-2004, 01:06	#6 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Looking back to fw routines, the answer should be: NO, IMPOSSIBLE they don't "interfere" each others. But in my patches experiences I found out that sometimes also very distant and apparentely "not-related" routines, are related somehow in the working phone. So, as usual, the only think to do is TEST it, first with only FlashSMS patch applied than with both ones.

12-02-2004, 04:43	#8 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yes, probably there is just a bug in FlashSMS patch. No relationship with LCC patch. I remember there were other newer Russian patch versions, in their forum (Siemens-club.ru). Maybe they had discovered and fixed this bug. I cannot find it in my patch "database" (or more properly, patch "mess") The only sure way to find if patch interfere with one other, is to try to remove one of it. For this reason, the best way to test (new) patches should be to apply them one by one, using phone for a while each time a new patch is added. Anyway, it's (very) rare that two patches interfear each other (if not using the same SPs or related starting routines,or using the same free space), and usually an acute observer and deep fw-knowledger can find the missing link, and eventually correct them.

12-02-2004, 14:40	#10 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	No, I don't know Russian, but use a online translator to try to read what they are writing (anyway translation is terrible!). The x4x page in siemens-club.ru is this: http://forum.siemens-club.ru/viewboard.php?BoardID=9 No, I don't use FlashSMS patch.

12-06-2004, 08:04	#11 (permalink)
misko903 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Slovakia Age: 31 Posts: 219 Member: 89407 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	in "send flash sms directly from the phone" doesnt work slovak (or other language) characters. tested Antoine [KNet]

12-06-2004, 20:51	#12 (permalink)
genetic1 Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 331 Member: 70990 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	...problem is still alive... @misko903: I am german - I only use german letters in flash sms all the time. Any other idea?

12-12-2004, 19:51	#13 (permalink)
genetic1 Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 331 Member: 70990 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	@Lalo: Hi, my friend... ...now I've got the reason for problem about flash SMS... Reason is (your) patch "Show calling icon V6"!!! If you have applied these patch, you can send flash SMS, but if you get a flash ones, it would displayed at normal ones!!! Hope inormation was usefull??? BR genetic1 BTW, how can I change flash SMS icon?

12-13-2004, 10:10	#14 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 38 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I've checked out... in my phone there is not this strange behaviour. But there are at least 4 type of Flash SMS, I can check only 3... About changing flash SMS icon in display string, it's possible. But it's a font icon, you have to search and edit it with SCE.