SME45i MultiSim without_Simcardv1.2 - discussing - GSM-Forum

misko903 · 12-08-2004, 22:05

hi all!!

i want use patch with name SME45i MultiSim without_Simcardv1.2 and i have a problem with creating block num 5003 with siemens eeprom tools. i have siemens eeprom tools 3.15 and this tool doesnt open a *.tid file.

any idea to make a block 5003 by manual listed in patch?

lot of thanx to ideas and posts

Antoine [KNet]

lalo.lerry · 12-09-2004, 10:10

Make only .txt file and load it.
Program will ask you the other infos after loading it.

BTW, you have to insert IMSI and KI in .txt block, did you make it?

naransula · 12-09-2004, 13:13

@lalo.lerry: could you convert this patch for sl45 v56? we already have one made by Konca but the menu structure is borrowed from one of the games in the phone. It would be better if we have a separate menu for Multi SIMs.

thanks in advance

Naransula

lalo.lerry · 12-09-2004, 14:40

@naransula:
Sorry, but:
1.S45i actual version has still some bugs in new menu names and structure
2.I really don't think to be so GOOD to adapt it without testing on SL45 and checking RAM areas
3.SL45 has a lot of very good patchers (+ the best one, the MASTER)

So, I'll not do it.

Lalo

Ev0luti0n__ · 12-09-2004, 23:56

lalo, can u explain me what is this patch for? what are the advantages it brings? cause i want to use it, but im not sure what it is for! please.. give me a clue. ill be awaiting your or someone's answer.

c ya

charlielao · 12-10-2004, 01:10

@Ev0luti0n__
the patch lets you use 3 different numbers using only one ordinary sim card instead of using a green card or a gold card that is able to handle multiple numbers. The SL45 or SME45i will replace the greencard instead. It is useful if you have 2 or 3 different numbers and you only have one unit cellphone. You can switch between numbers using the patch. The problem is you have to use a sim card reader to get the KI and IMSI of the simcard that you want to use. And for now, only old version simcards (v1) can be copied by simcard readers. We are all hoping that KONCA will be able to push through with his project of using our SUPER CELLPHONE SL45

to be the simcard reader.

misko903 · 12-10-2004, 12:03

IMSI i can get throught sscg 103, or other program. and KI? i havent sim card reader/writer to make a SIM card with 2/more operators - my trouble

does go this patch with 1 operator (original) SIM card?

Antoine [KNet]

lalo.lerry · 12-10-2004, 18:55

@Evo:
Charlielao has perfectly answered you.

IMSI: you can get it from many phone manager programs

KI: you need SIM card reader, SIM scan program and a SIM (with A3,A8 ciphering algorithm). Usally old ones (2 years old +, 8-16-32K) are right.
Konca is studying on SL45 a way to extract KI by phone (good for all SIMs) - hope he will menage it!

Fabi_Kc · 12-10-2004, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by lalo.lerry

Konca is studying on SL45 a way to extract KI by phone (good for all SIMs) - hope he will menage it!

I think everybody wait that

naransula · 12-10-2004, 21:42

Konca is still working on the project

i hope he will succeed to employ sl45 as a sim reader.

Ev0luti0n__ · 12-10-2004, 23:57

Thanks! those are great news! and this patch is awesome 2!

guess im looking forward to use it!!!

KoncaFung · 12-11-2004, 18:26

I am still studying for employing SL45i as sim card reader.

I succeed in cheating "sim_scan" now. And the whole procedure of extracting KI only takes 3 minutes!
(I use virtual com port driver to do that).
The above is the "Left Part".

The next step is to "Ask SL45i to do a A3A8 caculation and Get the result", and I named it the "Right Part".

It need the knowledge about "message driven mechanism" of the OS of SL45i.
>_< And I think it's a weak point of everybody.

maulwurf · 12-22-2004, 07:27

@all

Excuse me for my -maybe- silly question.

The MultiSim makes me able to have e.g. 2 phonenumbers with one sim ?
So can I choose which I use for calling out each time ?
So I'm reachable on both numbers ?
I guess this will only work with the same provider or ?

Thx for your answer.

Best wishes.

maulwurf

charlielao · 12-22-2004, 08:32

The MultiSim makes me able to have e.g. 2 phonenumbers with one sim ?
- yes, 2 to 16 different numbers in one simcard

So can I choose which I use for calling out each time ?
-yes you can choose which number you want to use to call out

So I'm reachable on both numbers ?
-you will only be reachable on ONE number at a time, whichever you activate at the time of the incoming call

I guess this will only work with the same provider or ?
-it works with all provifers, even if you copy different numbers from different providers into the Multisim.

sl45vietnam · 12-22-2004, 15:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by KoncaFung

I am still studying for employing SL45i as sim card reader.
I succeed in cheating "sim_scan" now. And the whole procedure of extracting KI only takes 3 minutes!

Really? I've sim_scan, I can't read KI on SIM card via SL45. Or you have a new version of "sim_scan" can do that?

12-08-2004, 22:05	#1 (permalink)
misko903 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Slovakia Age: 41 Posts: 219 Member: 89407 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	SME45i MultiSim without_Simcardv1.2 - discussing hi all!! i want use patch with name SME45i MultiSim without_Simcardv1.2 and i have a problem with creating block num 5003 with siemens eeprom tools. i have siemens eeprom tools 3.15 and this tool doesnt open a *.tid file. any idea to make a block 5003 by manual listed in patch? lot of thanx to ideas and posts Antoine [KNet]

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lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	@naransula: Sorry, but: 1.S45i actual version has still some bugs in new menu names and structure 2.I really don't think to be so GOOD to adapt it without testing on SL45 and checking RAM areas 3.SL45 has a lot of very good patchers (+ the best one, the MASTER) So, I'll not do it. Lalo

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Ev0luti0n__ Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 57 Posts: 12 Member: 81275 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	lalo, can u explain me what is this patch for? what are the advantages it brings? cause i want to use it, but im not sure what it is for! please.. give me a clue. ill be awaiting your or someone's answer. c ya

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charlielao No Life Poster Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 501 Member: 66040 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14	@Ev0luti0n__ the patch lets you use 3 different numbers using only one ordinary sim card instead of using a green card or a gold card that is able to handle multiple numbers. The SL45 or SME45i will replace the greencard instead. It is useful if you have 2 or 3 different numbers and you only have one unit cellphone. You can switch between numbers using the patch. The problem is you have to use a sim card reader to get the KI and IMSI of the simcard that you want to use. And for now, only old version simcards (v1) can be copied by simcard readers. We are all hoping that KONCA will be able to push through with his project of using our SUPER CELLPHONE SL45 to be the simcard reader.

12-10-2004, 12:03	#7 (permalink)
misko903 Freak Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Slovakia Age: 41 Posts: 219 Member: 89407 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	IMSI i can get throught sscg 103, or other program. and KI? i havent sim card reader/writer to make a SIM card with 2/more operators - my trouble does go this patch with 1 operator (original) SIM card? Antoine [KNet]

12-10-2004, 18:55	#8 (permalink)
lalo.lerry No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Italy Age: 49 Posts: 1,018 Member: 50673 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	@Evo: Charlielao has perfectly answered you. IMSI: you can get it from many phone manager programs KI: you need SIM card reader, SIM scan program and a SIM (with A3,A8 ciphering algorithm). Usally old ones (2 years old +, 8-16-32K) are right. Konca is studying on SL45 a way to extract KI by phone (good for all SIMs) - hope he will menage it!

12-10-2004, 21:42	#10 (permalink)
naransula Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ankara, Turkey Age: 50 Posts: 191 Member: 69110 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Konca is still working on the project i hope he will succeed to employ sl45 as a sim reader.

12-10-2004, 23:57	#11 (permalink)
Ev0luti0n__ Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 57 Posts: 12 Member: 81275 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks! those are great news! and this patch is awesome 2! guess im looking forward to use it!!!

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KoncaFung Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: China Age: 43 Posts: 15 Member: 58580 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	I am still studying for employing SL45i as sim card reader. I succeed in cheating "sim_scan" now. And the whole procedure of extracting KI only takes 3 minutes! (I use virtual com port driver to do that). The above is the "Left Part". The next step is to "Ask SL45i to do a A3A8 caculation and Get the result", and I named it the "Right Part". It need the knowledge about "message driven mechanism" of the OS of SL45i. >_< And I think it's a weak point of everybody.

12-22-2004, 07:27	#13 (permalink)
maulwurf Crazy Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 59 Member: 13291 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	@all Excuse me for my -maybe- silly question. The MultiSim makes me able to have e.g. 2 phonenumbers with one sim ? So can I choose which I use for calling out each time ? So I'm reachable on both numbers ? I guess this will only work with the same provider or ? Thx for your answer. Best wishes. maulwurf

12-22-2004, 08:32	#14 (permalink)
charlielao No Life Poster Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 501 Member: 66040 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14	The MultiSim makes me able to have e.g. 2 phonenumbers with one sim ? - yes, 2 to 16 different numbers in one simcard So can I choose which I use for calling out each time ? -yes you can choose which number you want to use to call out So I'm reachable on both numbers ? -you will only be reachable on ONE number at a time, whichever you activate at the time of the incoming call I guess this will only work with the same provider or ? -it works with all provifers, even if you copy different numbers from different providers into the Multisim.