Can windows XP be installed on iMac apple G5?? - Page 2 - GSM-Forum

Nylus · 07-15-2006, 18:41

i will put some kind of schematics:

If you have a powerpc Mac:
you only can use Virtual PC and emulate, as told by bb-gsm

If you have an intel core duo Mac:
1) you can use apple's solution "boot camp" (it will flash the EFI) and you can install XP and boot with macosx or windows xp

2) you can use the hacker's solution previous to boot camp, it also will modify the EFI and you get the same result but without the prepared set of drivers of boot camp, so computers behaviour can be erratic.

3) you can use the boot camp solution described in point 1, and instead of booting with xp, you can boot with macosx and use the application "parallel" to run xp from a windows in macosx

In any case, can't imagine why a mac user could need xp

Do you agree with above, bb-gsm?

BB-gsm · 07-15-2006, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nylus

In any case, can't imagine why a mac user could need xp

Do you agree with above, bb-gsm?

In this absolutely !

But me personally never played with those tools with EFI

Nylus · 07-15-2006, 20:12

Just for aditional technical infom, check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface

8051 · 07-15-2006, 21:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB-gsm

It is not all about CPU!
Mac has no bios as PC, no booting from cd/dvd as PC, Mac is Mac and PC is PC ..
When you have mac you will know that, and when you want Windows on Mac it is another case, a pity case

@ MC Harami

If you want to sell it, contact me in PM .

I don't understand when you say you can't boot from CD/DVD !!!

we can choose what we want to boot from, also there is linux distribution ( unbuntu live ) that we can test it without installing.
I have PowerBook G4 with two OS : tiger and ubuntu 6.06 and works perfectly (not for unlocking, it' for another usage )

BR.

BB-gsm · 07-15-2006, 21:24

Was Comparing Mac and PC, that it happens differently from pc, I did not say you cant boot from cd/dvd

I also own PB with 2 OS

Nylus · 07-17-2006, 10:16

The sense of the phrase was to establish that, in a PC, you have the BIOS, a small hardware-based firmware that allows you to control some harware options in order to make the basic process of configuration and preparation to boot.
In Mac there's no need of a such a system, because instead os using a BIOS, a separated program to setup the hardware and the boot behaviour, Mac uses a system with a boot loader that is used by the operating system as well.

So, there's no need to establish the boot proceediment as a separated process. (Also, that's what you loose when you use XP on an Mac intel, you loose the intimate hardware control from the operating system).

Well, maybe is a weird thing. In other sense, we can talk about the PC as a hardware item where you can use a software. Mac is an union, hardware and software has the same horizontal architecture and ierarchy (whether using Mac OSx, ubuntu, XP with boot camp or whatever).

Regards

MC Harami · 07-23-2006, 03:32

Does anyone know were i can get a cheap copy of virtual pc7 from or anyone willing to sell a copy?

Surej · 07-23-2006, 09:06

Try Torrents..you'll find good versions of Virtual PC

WBR

Surej

Nylus · 07-24-2006, 10:16

Try with ebay, I've seen some copies there really cheap.

Regards.

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07-15-2006, 18:41	#16 (permalink)
Nylus Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 120 Member: 10087 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	i will put some kind of schematics: If you have a powerpc Mac: you only can use Virtual PC and emulate, as told by bb-gsm If you have an intel core duo Mac: 1) you can use apple's solution "boot camp" (it will flash the EFI) and you can install XP and boot with macosx or windows xp 2) you can use the hacker's solution previous to boot camp, it also will modify the EFI and you get the same result but without the prepared set of drivers of boot camp, so computers behaviour can be erratic. 3) you can use the boot camp solution described in point 1, and instead of booting with xp, you can boot with macosx and use the application "parallel" to run xp from a windows in macosx In any case, can't imagine why a mac user could need xp Do you agree with above, bb-gsm?

07-15-2006, 20:12	#18 (permalink)
Nylus Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 120 Member: 10087 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Just for aditional technical infom, check this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface

07-15-2006, 21:24	#20 (permalink)
BB-gsm No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: GEORGIA,Tbilisi Posts: 3,393 Member: 75765 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 722	Was Comparing Mac and PC, that it happens differently from pc, I did not say you cant boot from cd/dvd I also own PB with 2 OS

07-17-2006, 10:16	#21 (permalink)
Nylus Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 120 Member: 10087 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	The sense of the phrase was to establish that, in a PC, you have the BIOS, a small hardware-based firmware that allows you to control some harware options in order to make the basic process of configuration and preparation to boot. In Mac there's no need of a such a system, because instead os using a BIOS, a separated program to setup the hardware and the boot behaviour, Mac uses a system with a boot loader that is used by the operating system as well. So, there's no need to establish the boot proceediment as a separated process. (Also, that's what you loose when you use XP on an Mac intel, you loose the intimate hardware control from the operating system). Well, maybe is a weird thing. In other sense, we can talk about the PC as a hardware item where you can use a software. Mac is an union, hardware and software has the same horizontal architecture and ierarchy (whether using Mac OSx, ubuntu, XP with boot camp or whatever). Regards

07-23-2006, 03:32	#22 (permalink)
MC Harami No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Peh Bhooti, Pakistan Age: 41 Posts: 673 Member: 49896 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 14	Does anyone know were i can get a cheap copy of virtual pc7 from or anyone willing to sell a copy?

07-23-2006, 09:06	#23 (permalink)
Surej No Life Poster Join Date: May 2002 Location: Wolverhampton UK Age: 54 Posts: 790 Member: 12296 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 9	Try Torrents..you'll find good versions of Virtual PC WBR Surej

07-24-2006, 10:16	#24 (permalink)
Nylus Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Gran Canaria Posts: 120 Member: 10087 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Try with ebay, I've seen some copies there really cheap. Regards.