Maybe scam?

[leosedf]

Hi! I just wanted to ask if anyone is familiar with that.
a guy names Johnson Nkoyoyo from kampala africa has seen my site and told me that he wants to buy some phones. Total cost was about 21.000 euros.
He has sent me nearly 35.000 euros saying "keep the rest of the money for the next order" He's company is named Sunlight International and he has allready sent me the check. Indeed it was about 35.000 euros!!
The check was from AMRO Bank i think England because it was sent in GBP pounds (23.000) also he's e-mail address ends with @yahoo.co.uk
Is this a scam???
Can he claim the money back from the bank? if the total of the order is about 21.000 then he will show the invoice to the bank claiming he's additional money back or the whole amount???

[leosedf]

On the top of the check it is written:

Black & Veatch Contracting Ltd.
650 London Road, Isleworth, Middlesex TW7 4EG

Has something to do with water. What is it?

[browntoa]

sounds like a scam to me.......

stolen cheque book probably !!

why would someone based in South Africa have an account in England ??

use the Contact page on the web site

http://www.bvcontracting.uk.com/

to ask about this ??

[leosedf]

but as i can see on the bank sunlight international has sent a mail to the bank asking to put the money in my account. Also Black & Veatch has an office in north africa

[spectrum]

@browntoa: Kampala is in Uganda, East Africa

@leosedf: The order can be real, but it is the source of the money that you should worry about!
You could unknowingly, be part of a money-laundering scheme

[leosedf]

Yes That's why about 5 minutes a go i contacted Black & Veatch.
What else should i do about this?? I will also call black & veatch on the phone just to see.
What could happen??
I asked from the first place a wire transfer to the bank and they did send a check. That's why i'm wondering. It is a lot of money i could go to jail:P My bank has sent the check to england to get the money, so if the check was stolen they will not give me the money is that right?? Then we will know

[spectrum]

You know what might happen?
After you have collected the money, the guy will cancel the order, or reduce the order amount, and ask you to keep the balance of the money for further instructions.
Thereafter, he will ask you to deposit the money in some account.
If this happens, then he has used your account successfully to launder money!

[mickeyblueeyes]

My bank has sent the check to england to get the money, so if the check was stolen they will not give me the money is that right??

Wrong, even if it clear's and you get paid, it can be taken back from your account at a later date.

Listen to your brain, you are rightly concerned, ask that the cheque is confirmed as not stolen, it almost certainly will be, a regular scam I'm afraid.

[jasonchan]

sounds like a scam

[leosedf]

Yes but why the money comes from a big company like Black & Veatch?
i asked Black & Veatch i even called them and they said that they have to look at the logistics office first. But i didn't had any mails from africa till now.

[leosedf]

I also have seen a paper with the sunlight international logo on the bank saying to deposit that money directly to my bank account.

[leosedf]

Finally!!! it was a scam
the bank in England denied the check as a fraud.
Now i have been charged at the bank the office costs $%@^$#!^&

If any guy from africa named Johnson Nkoyoyo and company name Sunlight International wants anything from you DENY it!
Generally: DENY everything to Africa!!
I'm pissed of

Thank you

[farrell]

Check this one out, really funny:

From: [email protected]
Subject: we have gsm 900/1800/1900MHZ
Date: March 31, 2004 10:11:50 AM CEST
To: [email protected]

MOBILEZ NIGERIA LTD
48,BROAD STREET
LAGOS-NIGERIA
DEAR SIR/MA,

BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP


WE ARE WHOLESALERS OF ALL BRANDS OF PHONES SUCH AS GSM PHONES.
WE DO SELL IN SMALL AND BIG QUANTITY AT AFFORDABLE PRICES.
I WILL WANT TO USE THIS MEDIUM TO SEEK FOR YOUR INTEREST IN BUYING OR DOING BUSINESS
WITH US.HERE ARE SOME OF OUR PRICES:
Nokia 8910 -150USD
Nokia 8890 -170USD
Nokia 8850 -150USD
Nokia 8310 -100USD
Nokia 7650 -150USD
Nokia 7210 -140USD
Nokia 9210 -200USD
Nokia 3310 -30USD
Nokia 3330 -35USD
Nokia 5210 -25USD
Nokia 5550 -30USD
Nokia 6610 -100USD
Nokia 6310 -45USD
Nokia 6510 -45USD
Nokia 8250 -50USD
Nokia 7250 -160USD
Sony Ericsson P800 150USD
Sony Ericsson T600 100USD
Sony Ericsson T68i 150USD
Sony Ericsson Z700 60USD
Sony Ericsson T300 65USD
Sony Ericsson T200 50USD
Sony Ericsson MC-20 15USD
Sony Ericsson MC-10 10USD
Alcatel 301=20USD
Alcatel 302=20USD
Alcatel 303=3USD
Motorola V70=130USD
Motorola A388=65USD
Motorola A820=65USD
Motorola T720=85 USD
Motorola C330=20 USD
Motorola V60g-90USD
Motorola V66-100USD
Motorola V50 -50USD
Siemens S46-85USD
Siemens S55-110USD
Siemens C55-55USD
Siemens CL50-90USD
Samsung R210-80USD
Samsung R220-85USD
Samsung R225-75USD
Samsung SGH-T100-150USD
Samsung SGH-S105-150USD
Samsung A800-100USD
THANK YOU AND LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING BUSINESS WITH YOU.
TOM ADAMS.
HEAD OF SALES

[spectrum]

Originally Posted by leosedf

Generally: DENY everything to Africa!!
I'm pissed of

Thank you

Most of us in Africa still do legitimate business, work as hard and as honest as the next johny bloke, so pls do not generalise.
Just be careful who you deal with.
If the offer is too fascinating, ignore it.
Offers of this type come from all over the world, not only from Africa.
And in most cases, these scammers take advantage of the greed of the potential victims.. just like the offer leosedf was given

[leosedf]

Not most but "some" of you.
I still think that 95% of africans the only thing they do is scams.
Luck: increased security over transactions makes us feel better