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02-24-2006, 09:51 | #1 (permalink) |
Banned Join Date: Oct 1999 Age: 55
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Member: 563 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 22,328 | ...::: 1-st Warning ATS Indonesia :::... Please be fair, otherwise need remove you from reseller list. B.R., Raskal |
02-25-2006, 08:23 | #2 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: www.microera.si
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Member: 4923 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 74 | Hi If you know what are good rules .....please ask yourself! You know what I mean! Answer on my emails please! BR Joze p.s. Please clear private message box! |
02-25-2006, 11:06 | #3 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.ats-com.com >> Jakarta, Age: 97
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Sorry bro, price already updated. Now is 45 usd. But I hope your other Indonesian reseller have commitment to sell at deal price too. Too many competitor in here, they are sell at low price. I just followed their price bro. Once again, sorry for this issue. My price already updated to deal price. BR, Adam | |
02-26-2006, 07:53 | #4 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 51
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Is Better possible if you can coordinate reseller in indonesia to make the price agreement. PS: no intention of dissimilar .. i only give suggestion BR Alif30 | |
02-26-2006, 08:20 | #5 (permalink) | |
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so you introspect the ownself don't blame others i agree with mr alif30 "you better don't only hear from customer better have to in accompanying evidence" | |
02-26-2006, 16:44 | #6 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.ats-com.com >> Jakarta, Age: 97
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Thanks for suggestion from both of you. I write the price in my web just followed other reseller's price. If I can control the price, I will not sell at lower price...because more profit is more happy Example for Cruiser (sorry I use Cruiser because it is just for example). I can control Cruiser's price in Indonesia, because I'm the only one who distribute Cruiser in Indonesia (Sole Distributor). And all Indonesian people can see that Cruiser's price is very stable in Indonesia. Because I can control the price so all reseller have good margin. Am I right ? But for other products, I can not control the price, because every reseller always sold at lower price. If I sell at higher price, how can I sell those products ?? Example: I sold $100. Other sold $95. then... I sold $95. Other sold $90. then.................... I sold $85 ..and other will be very mad to me, and start to backbite/calumniate me Is this nice competition ? BR, Adam | |
02-27-2006, 00:07 | #7 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Inside Your Mind
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You set your price and stick to it, because many people will buy from you for reputation of good support, nice person and the fact you are authorised reseller! If idiots want to sell cheaper than official selling price and you start a price wars you will NEVER win, and the only person to come out of it in good health is the end customer who have equipment cheaper because you want to make $5 instead of $20. Do us all a favour and keep price high, and then other will eventually do the same and the market will be better for it...and your bank balance too If you want to include any free gift with each activation purchase then thats fine, but please keep prices as stated! | |
02-27-2006, 04:54 | #8 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.ats-com.com >> Jakarta, Age: 97
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Now I will try my best to stick at the deal price and I will start to give extra bonus for end user. Your good idea will be my idea too Thanks for your nice input. Today I will start to thinking what bonus they must get from me. BR, Adam | |
02-27-2006, 05:48 | #9 (permalink) |
Insane Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 46
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Member: 77537 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8 | @adam u say that cruiser u control , but u selling very cheap for end user... how reseller can get more margin??? i know ppl (all big distributor) only know me sell in very2 cheap.. but they 100% wrong, why cause i see in the market first, i just follow they price, but ppl in here it's wrong. for bussiness i want got more margin.. so i agree with boss alif30 about you better don't only hear from customer better have to in accompanying evidence for that upgrade usb smart , from 1st i post in my forum iam selling 450.000 rupiah / 35euro, for this i not comment who destroy price in market corect me if i'am wrong BR honge |
02-27-2006, 06:05 | #10 (permalink) |
No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Age: 43
Posts: 1,335
Member: 40602 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 118 | Yeah, selling software repair solution sometimes very hard since some reseller sold some products although they're not listed in reseller list with cheap price. They only calculate small profit but high sales and achieve their monthly limit just to keep them un-kicked from reseller list. Its wrong to sell price below agreement. And i'm glad adam admit it and correct it right away. I bought most my box fom him and no problem until now. So, problem solved, every1 happy now and start selling again. Topic closed. br, s1emens |
02-27-2006, 07:26 | #11 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.ats-com.com >> Jakarta, Age: 97
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I sold Cruiser at cheap price only for - Professional Reseller got the best price (100 pcs /each month) - Reseller got the cheap price (30 pcs /each month) - Moderator of my forum, got the cheap price (because the are very helpful) - Other ppl / my friend who always buy from me, will have discount price. - Other ppl who the first time buy from me, will have deal price. About your suggestion: "better don't only hear from customer better have to in accompanying evidence". You right 100% about that suggestion. I always asking the price by sending sms to other reseller. Actually my friend do that (not me) just to know other reseller's price. And I always keep the price same with other reseller, because if my price higher, I will never sale the products. As you knew, too many competitor in here, right ? So if you need commitment in price. Lets do it, I agree 100% for this solution. We must have enough profit, right ? As you knew, from time to time the profit in GSM business is lower and lower And Honge, I already talked about this commitment right ? You must be already knew from your friend Irwan (Symphony Cell). He is my friend too. And Irwan already talked to you, right ? I don't want to fight, more friend is more better. BR, Adam | |
02-27-2006, 14:36 | #12 (permalink) | ||
Insane Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Age: 46
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Member: 77537 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8 | from long time ago.. i already sell little higher from ur price... if u want know.. but u only hear from cust.. mr honge sell.. in bla..bla.. but u not try to find out how much ur competitor sell to end user.. cause u must know in indonesian place in pulau jawa that price it's very bad.. , as u know for case hwk cable u 100% wrong.. i know from mr irwan, but u just believe fr ur cust .. so what i must do.. for cruiser i only sell little market not good cause u sell with ur packed it's very cheap Quote:
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02-27-2006, 15:47 | #13 (permalink) | |
Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: www.ats-com.com >> Jakarta, Age: 97
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Hi Honge, That time I was very very angry to you. Because my customer cancel 50 pcs HWK Cables (I don't remember the quantity). The cancelation just because you sell lower than me. In fact your cables were came from me too. I give you (example) $ 7. I give my customer (example) $ 8. But you give that customer at $ 7.5. So he cancel the deal. I give you best of the best price, but you kicked me. Then my customer of course cancel the deal And I was very angry to you. But once again, I'm very sorry for what I said (very bad word). Those words came from my angry feeling, sorry. For the "cruiser + ufs3 package", of course I must sale at cheap price. Because it is in 1 package. But for the Cruiser only, I never sell below of deal price. But you sale in your web at lower than my price. Am I complain to you ? No, right. I just make 1 package (cruiser + ufs3) at discount price, is this wrong ? By the way, this issue will never ending because one of each other always try to be the winner. So better for us to commit the price and stop any calumniate, please. If you have any idea how to commit Indonesian price, please let me know. By the way, Irwan said the price war came not from me, but from other reseller. I think I knew who is that man He was came from Java island right ? So why he is not in this forum ? You must bring that man into here, because he is your reseller too and he is responsible for this issue. BR, Adam | |
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02-28-2006, 06:58 | #15 (permalink) | |
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piece2. let`s alot off people in this world see indosian people is very friendship. | |
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