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Old 01-06-2007, 20:47   #1 (permalink)
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Question InfraRed rework station inquiry

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i have just bought T862 IRDA rework station & i have realized that it doesn't work with real infrared beams & it's only a high output AC lamp that generates a high temperature & with that it can desolder & solder, i'm not saying that it's fake & doesn't work it's just
little slow & i have to adjust it to the max temperature 350 to be able to desolder & solder & less than that it will take very long time.
and now i want to know is there other rework stations that works with real infrared beams or all of them works the same way as this one, many thnx for all & best regards ...
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....all are same
byt you must to have a preheater to use this kind of stations, it is used to heat PCB......basicly preheater is caramic grill which heats your PCB from 100-400C , for me works good at 200C for all leadfree phones, qand yes it takes more time to heat all PCB, then work on it, them need some time to wait for cooling PCB then - tests etc
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the T862 main unit have a comport at the back panel, what its purpose ???
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Hi mate, u need bottom pre heater for irda rework..in irda rework 12 v150w buld..that not genarate high temp..irda focus lense making high temp..so use bottom pre heater..look this attachment
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Old 01-15-2007, 01:05   #5 (permalink)
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hi all,

i have just bought T862 IRDA rework station & i have realized that it doesn't work with real infrared beams & it's only a high output AC lamp that generates a high temperature & with that it can desolder & solder, i'm not saying that it's fake & doesn't work it's just
little slow & i have to adjust it to the max temperature 350 to be able to desolder & solder & less than that it will take very long time.
and now i want to know is there other rework stations that works with real infrared beams or all of them works the same way as this one, many thnx for all & best regards ...
The type you mean when you say REAL infrared are called "dark infrared" and they are different. Dark infra red can look like a normal heater that glows a bit orange, the light type you have looks like the lights that keeps the chickens warm in fast food shop.
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well dudes, i have realized a new info for me & i don't know if it's for much or less of you & it's that rework station T-862 works really with infra-red but it called "visible ir" & it depends on a halogen lamp & a gold coated reflector & it's indeed the gesign of the lamp that this rework station works with.
i have get this information when i was browsing the internet looking for good lamps for this machine that i valuable it now more than before
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Hello all,
A little bit old topic, thx for infos, I-ve just bought the T862 station from SquareGSM, it is a wonderful tool, I've used the infos above, with preheated pcb at 150, max 200 degrees celsius, it works perfect. I've changed SIM IC's in Nokia near SIM holder and no damage to plastic! SUPER TOOL! If anyone have more info, tips and tricks, please post here!

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Hello all,

These rework stations uses chinese lamp (copy of pdr, the pioneer in IR lamp technology) but the lamp has fixed lens that force light to generate high temperature. Lamps can easily get busted.

Our new Tornado Infra Station, the worlds first handheld infra rework station, uses ceramic IR, one of the best in the IR technology. Ceramic IR radiators are electrical heating elements consisting mainly out of a technical ceramic being high-temperature resistant and has long service life due to an embedded heating coils.


The tornado infra has reasonable price without degradation of its quality, easy to use, without too much complications.




Or

you can pm me directly.


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i need InfraRed rework station using videos
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Check out the RE-7500 section on this site.

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InfraRed rework station

Thatt's some real good IR rework equipement,... but not cheap.

ERSA:
http://www.ersa.com/index.php?modul=...6&cont_add=467

ERSA:
http://www.ersa.com/art-irhp-100-346-1482.html

ERSA:
http://www.ersa.com/art-smt-bga-rework-346-1474.html

and IR rework station that use people from this forum>

Jovy Systems RE 7500 Rework System (ERSA IR-500A, IR-550 analogue)
http://www.jovy-systems.com/index.asp

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i need InfraRed rework station using videos
irDA - T860 station using videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DcX...eature=related
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Infra Red is more fantastic than functionnal !!!

It have you believe there is something specific because of using Infra Red

Let's have a look at T862 for example, this is even not infra red, they wrote IRDA on it !

Good News, who knew that IRDA data connection is able to solder sth ???

Aren't they playing with people ??


Back in 1999 years, when first bga phones where out ( V3688, L7089, 8810, 8210, 3310, T18s, T28s, T20s , expensive INFRA RED stations were great to use on old phones ( JVC PDR, ZEVAC, ... )

Nowadays many phones are made with sensitive components like rtc batterys or Electrolytic Diodes that may blovv/explode with IR so they are easier to be reworked with HOT AIR bga stations , because Infra Red heat flow isn't as sharply controlable as hot air is.

Infra Red requires a warm plate from under, and the infra red light gets the heat focused from the bottom to the top.

Hot Air is more convenient to solder local parts successfuly, without heating the whole board.

Now this is a Hot Air era

Check hot air bga stations from : Martin, Weller, Bokar ...


And don't be fooled no more, because of scientific words ...


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i need InfraRed rework station using videos
irDA - T860 station using videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DcX...eature=related


I had chance to test thsi device, and i can't say that it's something WOW,... will make more test and that can say more.

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