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Downunder35m · 05-07-2012, 09:49

You can, safetey cams are not a part of the map and come seperately.
You need the corresponding .dct file too.

rytenuff · 05-07-2012, 16:03

For the odd occasion when Home won't give you an updated SatFix without also downloading something else you don't want, this may be helpful.

SatFix Direct from TT: for TT with SIRFIII - chip:

http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...I&devicecode=1

or

http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...p;devicecode=2

or

SatFix Direct from TT: for TT with GlobalLocate - chip

http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...e&devicecode=1

or you could use quickgpsfix v2.05 which does it for you.

5fifty5 · 05-08-2012, 10:10

Thanks very much for your help chaps.

Another question: After installing totally different maps to what my device came with, can I use LIVE services with it? In other words can TomTom find out that my device has different maps now? or something dodgy etc etc?

Cheers.

Downunder35m · 05-08-2012, 10:17

You need a subscription for them, if you have you can use them.

Downunder35m · 05-08-2012, 11:40

@rytenuff: is it possible that the first link is not for the Sirf3 but the old Sirf2 Chip?

bihurkatu · 05-08-2012, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downunder35m

@rytenuff: is it possible that the first link is not for the Sirf3 but the old Sirf2 Chip?

According to TomTom are SIRF3 links the two.

Code:

http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephemeris.cab?type=ephemeris&eeProvider=SIRFStarIII&devicecode=1
http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephemeris.cab?type=ephemeris&amp;eeProvider=SiRFStarIII&amp;devicecode=2

Just change the date "Expire" in "ee_meta.txt"

dsa8310 · 05-08-2012, 12:52

It's possible to get quickgpsfix directly from your tt device connected to a mobile phone via BT, without PC. Setup is a little laborious, and a data plan is needed, but once done, it could be added as a permanent extra menu entry.

Basically, perform the TT wireless setup (e.g. in mode 25), and make sure you get the top folder ppp on your storage.
Then, you have to figure out the address and channel number of your phone dial-up modem. Under Linux, use two commands (while BT visible):

$ hcitool scan
Scanning ...
aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff Nokia N9

$ sdptool browse aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff | less
...
Service Name: Dial-Up Networking
Service RecHandle: 0x10004
Service Class ID List:
"Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
"Generic Networking" (0x1201)
Protocol Descriptor List:
"L2CAP" (0x0100)
"RFCOMM" (0x0003)
Channel: 1
Profile Descriptor List:
"Dialup Networking" (0x1103)
Version: 0x0100
...

My phone has the (fake) address aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff, and the channel corresponding to Dial-Up Networking is 1, as displayed above.

Now, as suggested in post #5158, two commands have to be executed on your TT device, in an "extra" type of script, to get Internet connectivity:

# /mnt/sdcard/extras/TTbtconsole/rfcomm bind rfcomm1 aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff 1

Note that the address and channel number are the last two parameters above.

# /sbin/pppd rfcomm1 115200 call ttgobuddy &

Finally, getting the Ephemeris.cab file should be done using the links in post #3437:

# /bin/wget "http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephemeris.cab?type=ephemeris&eeProvider=SIRFStarII I&devicecode=1" -O Ephemeris.cab

And, an ARM cabextract command is needed too, available... The contents of Ephemeris.cab should go to directory /mnt/sdcard/ephem/

# cabextract -d /mnt/sdcard/ephem Ephemeris.cab

Lastly, stop networking with:

# killall pppd

Everything should become a click-able command... with icon... etc.

Anyway, here is the ARM cabextract:

cabextract download - 2shared

Probably BT speed could be even 460800 instead of 115200...
All testing could be done using BT Console...
Any dsa extra add-on could be used as model (focus on directory SdkRegistry)...
wget might have a slightly different syntax...

dsa8310 · 05-08-2012, 13:20

If I had my TT at hand I would release a quickgpsfix template add-on...

dsa8310 · 05-08-2012, 14:04

In principle, same script would work for devices with built-in gprs modem too (the bringing up of the network would be skipped)...

tenorman · 05-10-2012, 03:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downunder35m

You can, safetey cams are not a part of the map and come seperately.
You need the corresponding .dct file too.

I was told the New Zealand updates were part of the AU ones but updates do not include the DCT file. Can I still use the old NZ dct file or should I get a copy of the Au one? TNX

Downunder35m · 05-10-2012, 05:54

Neither.
New Zealand is not part of Australia, so why would it be included in the AU maps?
The .dct file for the cams stays the same you only replce the cam files with newer ones, so no need to activate every time.
But to be perfectly clear : for NZ you need the NZ cams and the NZ map.

To my best knowledge the NZ cams are not included in the AU cams.

tenorman · 05-10-2012, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downunder35m

Neither.
New Zealand is not part of Australia, so why would it be included in the AU maps?
The .dct file for the cams stays the same you only replce the cam files with newer ones, so no need to activate every time.
But to be perfectly clear : for NZ you need the NZ cams and the NZ map.

To my best knowledge the NZ cams are not included in the AU cams.

Thanks for that but I was told on another forum that TomTom said they were included. I will be testing them today so will report back.

Downunder35m · 05-11-2012, 11:24

I'm trying to fully simulate the Truck NC in Home, is there anyone who had a decent look on how the DLL handles the data*.chk files?

tenorman · 05-14-2012, 04:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downunder35m

Neither.
New Zealand is not part of Australia, so why would it be included in the AU maps?
The .dct file for the cams stays the same you only replce the cam files with newer ones, so no need to activate every time.
But to be perfectly clear : for NZ you need the NZ cams and the NZ map.

To my best knowledge the NZ cams are not included in the AU cams.

You are dead right Downunder....they are NOT in the AU package. Just been down the road and no warning. Put another SC Card back in with NZ cams on and all ok. Will have to now advise my contact that he was given wring info by Tomtom...thanks again

dsa8310 · 05-14-2012, 20:01

Any interest in quickgpsfix yet?

Any testing done with BT Console and hyperterminal/Windows (see post #2517) or minicom/Linux(/Mac) ?

I suspect that the presence of file /var/run/ppp.up might signal to PNDNavigator that the network got up, and then access to other on-line services could become possible even without the built-in GPRS modem/SIM... or not...

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05-07-2012, 09:49	#3436 (permalink)
Downunder35m Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 462 Member: 1528218 Status: Offline Thanks: 36 Thanked 85 Times in 63 Posts	You can, safetey cams are not a part of the map and come seperately. You need the corresponding .dct file too.

05-07-2012, 16:03	#3437 (permalink)
rytenuff No Life Poster Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 948 Member: 283999 Status: Offline Thanks: 163 Thanked 1,212 Times in 380 Posts	For the odd occasion when Home won't give you an updated SatFix without also downloading something else you don't want, this may be helpful. SatFix Direct from TT: for TT with SIRFIII - chip: http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...I&devicecode=1 or http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...p;devicecode=2 or SatFix Direct from TT: for TT with GlobalLocate - chip http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephe...e&devicecode=1 or you could use quickgpsfix v2.05 which does it for you.

05-08-2012, 10:10	#3438 (permalink)
5fifty5 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 13 Member: 1274109 Status: Offline Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks very much for your help chaps. Another question: After installing totally different maps to what my device came with, can I use LIVE services with it? In other words can TomTom find out that my device has different maps now? or something dodgy etc etc? Cheers.

05-08-2012, 10:17	#3439 (permalink)
Downunder35m Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 462 Member: 1528218 Status: Offline Thanks: 36 Thanked 85 Times in 63 Posts	You need a subscription for them, if you have you can use them.

05-08-2012, 11:40	#3440 (permalink)
Downunder35m Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 462 Member: 1528218 Status: Offline Thanks: 36 Thanked 85 Times in 63 Posts	@rytenuff: is it possible that the first link is not for the Sirf3 but the old Sirf2 Chip?

05-08-2012, 12:52	#3442 (permalink)
dsa8310 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,563 Member: 973199 Status: Offline Thanks: 204 Thanked 1,591 Times in 775 Posts	It's possible to get quickgpsfix directly from your tt device connected to a mobile phone via BT, without PC. Setup is a little laborious, and a data plan is needed, but once done, it could be added as a permanent extra menu entry. Basically, perform the TT wireless setup (e.g. in mode 25), and make sure you get the top folder *ppp* on your storage. Then, you have to figure out the address and channel number of your phone dial-up modem. Under Linux, use two commands (while BT visible): $ hcitool scan Scanning ... aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff Nokia N9 $ sdptool browse aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff \| less ... Service Name: Dial-Up Networking Service RecHandle: 0x10004 Service Class ID List: "Dialup Networking" (0x1103) "Generic Networking" (0x1201) Protocol Descriptor List: "L2CAP" (0x0100) "RFCOMM" (0x0003) Channel: 1 Profile Descriptor List: "Dialup Networking" (0x1103) Version: 0x0100 ... My phone has the (fake) address aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff, and the channel corresponding to *Dial-Up Networking* is 1, as displayed above. Now, as suggested in post #5158, two commands have to be executed on your TT device, in an "extra" type of script, to get Internet connectivity: # /mnt/sdcard/extras/TTbtconsole/rfcomm bind rfcomm1 aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff 1 Note that the address and channel number are the last two parameters above. # /sbin/pppd rfcomm1 115200 call ttgobuddy & Finally, getting the Ephemeris.cab file should be done using the links in post #3437: # /bin/wget "http://home.tomtom.com/download/Ephemeris.cab?type=ephemeris&eeProvider=SIRFStarII I&devicecode=1" -O Ephemeris.cab And, an ARM cabextract command is needed too, available... The contents of Ephemeris.cab should go to directory /mnt/sdcard/ephem/ # cabextract -d /mnt/sdcard/ephem Ephemeris.cab Lastly, stop networking with: # killall pppd Everything should become a click-able command... with icon... etc. Anyway, here is the ARM cabextract: cabextract download - 2shared Probably BT speed could be even 460800 instead of 115200... All testing could be done using BT Console... Any dsa extra add-on could be used as model (focus on directory *SdkRegistry*)... wget might have a slightly different syntax...

05-08-2012, 13:20	#3443 (permalink)
dsa8310 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,563 Member: 973199 Status: Offline Thanks: 204 Thanked 1,591 Times in 775 Posts	If I had my TT at hand I would release a quickgpsfix template add-on...

05-08-2012, 14:04	#3444 (permalink)
dsa8310 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,563 Member: 973199 Status: Offline Thanks: 204 Thanked 1,591 Times in 775 Posts	In principle, same script would work for devices with built-in gprs modem too (the bringing up of the network would be skipped)...

05-10-2012, 05:54	#3446 (permalink)
Downunder35m Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 462 Member: 1528218 Status: Offline Thanks: 36 Thanked 85 Times in 63 Posts	Neither. New Zealand is not part of Australia, so why would it be included in the AU maps? The .dct file for the cams stays the same you only replce the cam files with newer ones, so no need to activate every time. But to be perfectly clear : for NZ you need the NZ cams and the NZ map. To my best knowledge the NZ cams are not included in the AU cams.

05-11-2012, 11:24	#3448 (permalink)
Downunder35m Freak Poster Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 462 Member: 1528218 Status: Offline Thanks: 36 Thanked 85 Times in 63 Posts	I'm trying to fully simulate the Truck NC in Home, is there anyone who had a decent look on how the DLL handles the data*.chk files?

05-14-2012, 20:01	#3450 (permalink)
dsa8310 No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,563 Member: 973199 Status: Offline Thanks: 204 Thanked 1,591 Times in 775 Posts	Any interest in quickgpsfix yet? Any testing done with BT Console and hyperterminal/Windows (see post #2517) or minicom/Linux(/Mac) ? I suspect that the presence of file /var/run/ppp.up might signal to PNDNavigator that the network got up, and then access to other on-line services could become possible even without the built-in GPRS modem/SIM... or not...