Almost 10000 Credits Lost!! Please Respond - GSM-Forum

patriram · 09-13-2011, 12:57

I bought one Reseller account, I only unlocked 6 phones, and now server is closed, refund the money please.

ashraf_bcs · 09-17-2011, 08:50

I think genie team wont answer till finish the money which is earned by cheating with us.

jeilyscell · 09-17-2011, 16:29

I hope that the truth is not the computer, wait statements

OvidelGSM · 11-28-2011, 10:04

i lost almost 20k credits and no answer from genie team

they simply closed the server...

powerman · 11-29-2011, 18:26

Freestyler2000, Zero23, Bph&co, ..::Mobile Smoker::.., John_Doe
hi ,genie team

my credit :27000 last credit
user:100680
when will be refund
Dear Genie Team
br

stallone1® · 12-01-2011, 07:38

i have 30000 credit and the server is close as well so where to get all this refund ?

hazar · 12-01-2011, 18:06

i have 200 credit .......

xpmobile · 12-05-2011, 15:04

[QUOTE=powerman]Re: credit refund ????????

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Quote:
Originally Posted by powerman
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bph&co
Hi,

Sorry, i dont understand. Did Alan sold you credits, but now pass responsibility to me ?

BR

yes, he says i muss contact witt you , It was yours credit server ,not him
br

Hi,

Thanks for letting me know. Ok, basically the server was run and payed by the
company i worked for - B-phreaks. The server for SL3 was kept running for
more than a year and a half and all this time resellers were selling credits.
No one payed us any money. At the end electricity bills and support was too
high to pay from our own pocket and Dani had to switch it off.

Regarding Alan, he didn't even pay us for the last 600 devices he sold.
Although he was making huge profit, he decided to just stop support to all his
customers once we had to stop working with him.

"Power man" credits was sold during sl2 time before hash9d and B-Phreaks have all the payment from the resales credits.

Before B-Phreaks start running their SL3 server, I was out of the team for more than 6 mths.

Yes, of cos i will not pay B-Phreaks the 600 device "PROFIT" BECAUSE, B-Phreaks refused to replace the faulty diamond device which used to program genie device. Although they claimed that I had hack their craps (just another excuses), I even willingly to send back the craps to them to let them check it carefully with their eyes BUT they just refused to accept it. (Reason becos they just wanted to collect their profit and run off like prodigy time). In business, there is so called profit and lost BUT to make business with B-Phreaks, they only claimed their profit and let their partner to eat up the lost. I left 400 unprogrammed genie device and 4000 AT91 mcu. Of cos since B-Phreaks want their profit, i will ask for my 400 device profit plus the cost value of the remaining 400 device plus the pre-ordered 4000 AT91 mcu. It is already 2 yrs and B-Phreaks can't afford to build genie by themself and need to ask other people to join them. Of cos, they dare not to do it himself because they are worried about the cost and time taken PLUS UPDATE. For Alex aka b-phreaks, he want profit and will not accept LOST!

MOST IMPORTANT THING IS .... B-PHREAKS IS AN OLD TIME CHEATER!!! Alex owned the genie server and asked for reseller to buy bulks credits from him. He received all the credits payment from the reseller and used up all the money to build the SL3 server. Probably after finding out the electrical bill cost them a bomb, he started to stop all credits and making all kind of lies to the public and cheated the customer credits.

People who lost their genie credits should report to gsmcity admin now! Genie Universal should no more be in gsmcity as it is a PURE CHEATER CASE!

No Regards
Alan Tan

Bph&co · 12-05-2011, 15:36

Hi Alan,

Few points:

1. You post in public my personal exchange, not very correct, is it ?

2. You sold those credits during SL2 times without explaining to customers
what are you actually selling. You expect SL2 unlock via credits to continue
forever ? I think that is cheating from your side, i hope you are not expecting
SL2 unlocks to be used for whatever things happen in 10 years time ?

Also seems you have some obligation to support your old customers as they
will probably bring you future business. If you have cool unlock credit solution
right now, why don't you compensate your guys with free credits ? It is not
that you have any R&D expense for the Broadcomm solution, as its all based
on prior knowledge.

Regarding what have been payed to B-phreaks Ltd - i have no idea, maybe
you should sort that with Dani. Is it for devices or credits - you can make it
look whatever suits you.

BR, as usual

xpmobile · 12-05-2011, 15:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bph&co

Hi Alan,

Few points:

1. You post in public my personal exchange, not very correct, is it ?

2. You sold those credits during SL2 times without explaining to customers
what are you actually selling. You expect SL2 unlock via credits to continue
forever ? I think that is cheating from your side, i hope you are not expecting
SL2 unlocks to be used for whatever things happen in 10 years time ?

Also seems you have some obligation to support your old customers as they
will probably bring you future business. If you have cool unlock credit solution
right now, why don't you compensate your guys with free credits ? It is not
that you have any R&D expense for the Broadcomm solution, as its all based
on prior knowledge.

Regarding what have been payed to B-phreaks Ltd - i have no idea, maybe
you should sort that with Dani. Is it for devices or credits - you can make it
look whatever suits you.

BR, as usual

This is your company issue. Stop arrow to other guys and stop pretending that you know nothing. Your wrong business management had resulted in your lost and you got to eat it up and die with it .... So ENJOY YOURLIFE WITH IT!

No Regards
Alan Tan

hoang · 12-05-2011, 16:16

Its unprofessional team, which even dont make any official announcement that SL3 server is closed to resellers! Just want to collect as much money then run away.
I have 1000cr left also!
Even last 6 months dont see any update for this Genie, admin should move this section to No more support section!

Bph&co · 12-05-2011, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoang

Its unprofessional team, which even dont make any official announcement that SL3 server is closed to resellers!

Yep,

It looks like that. Regarding no support, i have been trying to keep the project
alive for the last one year, even not being paid for that. Maybe is not much
contribution, but is much more than what you got from Alan anyway.

BR

09-13-2011, 12:57	#1 (permalink)
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xpmobile No Life Poster Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: China GuangDong Posts: 1,680 Member: 7220 Status: Offline Thanks: 145 Thanked 1,592 Times in 214 Posts	[QUOTE=powerman]Re: credit refund ???????? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: Originally Posted by powerman Quote: Originally Posted by Bph&co Hi, Sorry, i dont understand. Did Alan sold you credits, but now pass responsibility to me ? BR yes, he says i muss contact witt you , It was yours credit server ,not him br Hi, Thanks for letting me know. Ok, basically the server was run and payed by the company i worked for - B-phreaks. The server for SL3 was kept running for more than a year and a half and all this time resellers were selling credits. No one payed us any money. At the end electricity bills and support was too high to pay from our own pocket and Dani had to switch it off. Regarding Alan, he didn't even pay us for the last 600 devices he sold. Although he was making huge profit, he decided to just stop support to all his customers once we had to stop working with him. "Power man" credits was sold during sl2 time before hash9d and B-Phreaks have all the payment from the resales credits. Before B-Phreaks start running their SL3 server, I was out of the team for more than 6 mths. Yes, of cos i will not pay B-Phreaks the 600 device "PROFIT" BECAUSE, B-Phreaks refused to replace the faulty diamond device which used to program genie device. Although they claimed that I had hack their craps (just another excuses), I even willingly to send back the craps to them to let them check it carefully with their eyes BUT they just refused to accept it. (Reason becos they just wanted to collect their profit and run off like prodigy time). In business, there is so called profit and lost BUT to make business with B-Phreaks, they only claimed their profit and let their partner to eat up the lost. I left 400 unprogrammed genie device and 4000 AT91 mcu. Of cos since B-Phreaks want their profit, i will ask for my 400 device profit plus the cost value of the remaining 400 device plus the pre-ordered 4000 AT91 mcu. It is already 2 yrs and B-Phreaks can't afford to build genie by themself and need to ask other people to join them. Of cos, they dare not to do it himself because they are worried about the cost and time taken PLUS UPDATE. For Alex aka b-phreaks, he want profit and will not accept LOST! MOST IMPORTANT THING IS .... B-PHREAKS IS AN OLD TIME CHEATER!!! Alex owned the genie server and asked for reseller to buy bulks credits from him. He received all the credits payment from the reseller and used up all the money to build the SL3 server. Probably after finding out the electrical bill cost them a bomb, he started to stop all credits and making all kind of lies to the public and cheated the customer credits. People who lost their genie credits should report to gsmcity admin now! Genie Universal should no more be in gsmcity as it is a PURE CHEATER CASE! No Regards Alan Tan

12-05-2011, 15:36	#9 (permalink)
Bph&co Product Supporter and selective member Nsspro Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,166 Member: 1024 Status: Offline Thanks: 618 Thanked 5,447 Times in 655 Posts	Hi Alan, Few points: 1. You post in public my personal exchange, not very correct, is it ? 2. You sold those credits during SL2 times without explaining to customers what are you actually selling. You expect SL2 unlock via credits to continue forever ? I think that is cheating from your side, i hope you are not expecting SL2 unlocks to be used for whatever things happen in 10 years time ? Also seems you have some obligation to support your old customers as they will probably bring you future business. If you have cool unlock credit solution right now, why don't you compensate your guys with free credits ? It is not that you have any R&D expense for the Broadcomm solution, as its all based on prior knowledge. Regarding what have been payed to B-phreaks Ltd - i have no idea, maybe you should sort that with Dani. Is it for devices or credits - you can make it look whatever suits you. BR, as usual

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hoang No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2002 Age: 33 Posts: 1,818 Member: 10485 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.66876 Thanks: 96 Thanked 322 Times in 210 Posts	Its unprofessional team, which even dont make any official announcement that SL3 server is closed to resellers! Just want to collect as much money then run away. I have 1000cr left also! Even last 6 months dont see any update for this Genie, admin should move this section to No more support section!