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belthree · 01-27-2009, 20:45

Can you downgrade BB5 phones with Genie like MTBox does?

belthree · 01-28-2009, 20:43

So is that a no? Genie can't downgrade BB5 phones?

*MaTeOoSh* · 01-30-2009, 12:17

yes, directly it can NOT.

belthree · 01-30-2009, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by *MaTeOoSh*

yes, directly it can NOT.

Are there any plans to do this? By the way, what's the difference between a regular flash and a downgrade flash? Aren't they both just flashing with the firmware files?

Bph&co · 01-30-2009, 21:39

Hi,

I think all 3th party flashers use a trick posted by Dejan. It works by destroing
a section in the security area that holds current mcu/dsp version. But the
power had to be kept off so the rom will not rebuild the area.

To work out this in phoenix maybe a small script is required to do this and
partially kill the phone, then flash as a dead phone.

Good idea to look into.

BR

RD7 · 01-30-2009, 22:10

Use internal Phoenix & tick at 'SW Downgrade & Stay at Flash mode' & flash the phone. This will allow sw downgrade.

titan_wonder · 01-31-2009, 06:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD7

Use internal Phoenix & tick at 'SW Downgrade & Stay at Flash mode' & flash the phone. This will allow sw downgrade.

if allowed to know,,what special or different, internal phoenix and common phoenix..

kevin168 · 01-31-2009, 10:37

is that any internal phoenix on genie ftp support??

br,
kevin168

titan_wonder · 01-31-2009, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin168

is that any internal phoenix on genie ftp support??

br,
kevin168

you can contact me..by pm su...

RD7 · 01-31-2009, 14:25

Any diffrent or not

kevin168 · 01-31-2009, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD7

Any diffrent or not

yeah i know it.

i'm just asking why that internal phoenix didn't uploaded in genie support

br,
kevin168

RD7 · 01-31-2009, 18:45

You also can download from here

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=641103&page=3

Best regards

hrcell · 02-03-2009, 21:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by belthree

Can you downgrade BB5 phones with Genie like MTBox does?

can.............

richiricherd · 02-04-2009, 03:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD7

Use internal Phoenix & tick at 'SW Downgrade & Stay at Flash mode' & flash the phone. This will allow sw downgrade.

You cant mate, you will need RD certificates

belthree · 02-04-2009, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by RD7

You also can download from here

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=641103&page=3

Best regards

I was able to download internal phoenix but I don't see anything about downgrading. Where should I look? I saw some new menu items but none of them seemed to talk about downgrading.

Quote:

Originally Posted by richiricherd

You cant mate, you will need RD certificates

What are RD certificates?

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Bph&co No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,186 Member: 1024 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5,510	Hi, I think all 3th party flashers use a trick posted by Dejan. It works by destroing a section in the security area that holds current mcu/dsp version. But the power had to be kept off so the rom will not rebuild the area. To work out this in phoenix maybe a small script is required to do this and partially kill the phone, then flash as a dead phone. Good idea to look into. BR

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RD7 Freak Poster Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Internet Posts: 131 Member: 444091 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 21	You also can download from here http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...=641103&page=3 Best regards