Genie_hardware pcb;info's!

[Burebista]

I need to know some info's,if it possible,about it's hardware:that backup battery what for is on the pcb?Is the same thing like is in UB and after the battery is finished the clip is dead or what?
Thanks!

[g-gabber]

Oh, Congratulation, you just erased your security key...

[Burebista]

And why do You say this?Because my serial it can be seen by others?I forgot to cover it;with this problem what can say in this thread?the serial is also seen in the log of other user of genie.

http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=858928

Can You be more clear?In the post it wasn't about security serial what I asked.

[g-gabber]

No no, not because of this, how you can see there is two board, if you split them, the data on eeprom is gone ...

ps. you can try to start the bb5notp, and you will get error 26...

[hakkothebest]

You can split the boards.. The volatile memory will be only erased if you make short circuit between batt terminals or if you remove batt also if the batt drain..

[Burebista]

Originally Posted by hakkothebest

You can split the boards.. The volatile memory will be only erased if you make short circuit between batt terminals or if you remove batt also if the batt drain..

That's what I wanna know because I had my UB and was dead after the battery drained so I bought another one(a few weeks ago).Another man that also have UB told me about 3 years ago when I bought it that is guarantee 10 years(the battery to be alive) but in my case wasn't 10;only 3 but I'm not sad because I made money with it like I made with genie.
I've opened the clip twice and nothing happened;it's working OK without errors.

[oOXTCOo]

i have also dissasebled my genie complelty

i have soldered in aa better reset button, cause the original was fast demaged and the hole was to smal, i have used a power button from a old nokia board. the big metall one, this are perfekt reset buttons for genie.

also i have soldered in a bigger speaker to get more volume from it.

i have soldered two original nokia BLC-5 batteries instead of china one.


and if it where possible, i would solder in a siemens S65 display.
this displays are perfekt to control and have good resolution, also open source drivers are available.
is it possible to make modefikations on genie os ???


btw. genie seems to have jtag port connector, so if batterie is demaged it should be no problem to rewrite the secruity key or not?


br.
hari

[hakkothebest]

But who will share the fw to write in mcu?

[Bph&co]

Hi,

Yes the backup battery is keeping the PCB alive non stop, but unless you short/remove
the battery - there is no way you can destroy the device key (even soldering
of components is ok, not that I imply you have as good as me soldering skills -
don't do it please )

It is similar technology like UB, but rated life of the battery is if you suck some
current from it. Our design uses something of 1-50 nA, which is basically open
circuit for this battery. Not sure what caused UB problem - faulty batteries or
too much consumption from the Dallas. We had some problems as well - all related
to the sweat shop Alan used to assemble not soldering some batteries properly.

The device could be restored by the recovery bootloader or in worst case
scenario - the usb rom driver.

Regarding adding new LCD - it is not easy as it has to be SPI and needs to
have video ram buffer on board (like the current one).

BR, Alex

[german gsm team]

Assumed this internal battery of an two years old Genie will be exhausted in e.g. 5 years - will there a possibility to revive the Genie by reprogram the device key?

[german gsm team]

Anyone can answer this?

[Bph&co]

Originally Posted by german gsm team

Assumed this internal battery of an two years old Genie will be exhausted in e.g. 5 years - will there a possibility to revive the Genie by reprogram the device key?

Yes off course.

BR

[Burebista]

hehe,
some days ago I've tested my old Genie Clip.
Still is working! :P

[Bph&co]

Originally Posted by Burebista

hehe,
some days ago I've tested my old Genie Clip.
Still is working! :P

Hey,

Thanks for reporting that! It is great to hear. If I even open the

source code from the back up, can barely remember what is what now.


BR

[-Scypax-]

Originally Posted by Bph&co

Hi,

Yes the backup battery is keeping the PCB alive non stop, but unless you short/remove
the battery - there is no way you can destroy the device key (even soldering
of components is ok, not that I imply you have as good as me soldering skills -
don't do it please )

It is similar technology like UB, but rated life of the battery is if you suck some
current from it. Our design uses something of 1-50 nA, which is basically open
circuit for this battery. Not sure what caused UB problem - faulty batteries or
too much consumption from the Dallas. We had some problems as well - all related
to the sweat shop Alan used to assemble not soldering some batteries properly.

The device could be restored by the recovery bootloader or in worst case
scenario - the usb rom driver.

Regarding adding new LCD - it is not easy as it has to be SPI and needs to
have video ram buffer on board (like the current one).

BR, Alex

Hi Alex!

I know it is 2022 but I have a genie universal clip and the current of the CR2032 battery is at 3,098V so I assume it is still working.

When running bb5notp I get error 18

I would like to replace the battery with a new one and I would like to ask if something goes wrong, could you provide paid support?