Suggestion for Genie Team - GSM-Forum

R3GSM · 11-13-2008, 18:01

Is it possible to implement a pc based unlocker which wil only work when genie device is plugged into same pc. We are getting lots of problems using the standalone clip version, so maybe a pc based system would be an alternative method for users.

Regards

R3 Team

Bph&co · 11-13-2008, 20:57

Hi,

Highly doubt that the PC version will be more stable. What do you mean
by lots of problems ?

BR

James-R · 11-14-2008, 20:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bph&co

Hi,

Highly doubt that the PC version will be more stable. What do you mean
by lots of problems ?

BR

HI,

They have unlocked about the same amount of phone's as me = none.

I have tried jaf/mt-box 8 and 10 pin cables, with convertor/without convertor, phone charger in/phone charger out, genie charger in/genie charger out, genie usb cable in/genie usb cable out and all combinations of them but still always error 1/error 5 or genie reboots.

I, like them, have given up as its taking too much time to sort out.

Br

Bph&co · 11-14-2008, 21:29

Hi James,

Sorry to hear about your problems. I am sure that if you post detailed
information and follow my instructions we can find the reason for your
problems very quickly. If the situation is that desperate, send me pm,
i will guide you via ICQ.

But if you somehow imply that implementation of our unlock on other
3th party box is more stable then ours, i can't agree. Me and Dani
have very bad experience, even to install one of those boxes takes
hours - installing correct smart card drivers, fixing FTDI related USB
problems, etc.

In my view, if your cable is not extremely bad, should be easy to
connect to the phone. Our implementation of the flashing/fbus protocol
are Phoenix compatible. This is the reason that standart cables don't
work sometimes. As usual somebody in China has tried to think and
experiment with the cables in factory.

Anyway, we test every update on as much as possible phones and
devices we have in the office to minimize bugs, although i am not
saying the device is not without bugs.

Regards

**orbita** · 11-14-2008, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by James-R

HI,

They have unlocked about the same amount of phone's as me = none.

I have tried jaf/mt-box 8 and 10 pin cables, with convertor/without convertor, phone charger in/phone charger out, genie charger in/genie charger out, genie usb cable in/genie usb cable out and all combinations of them but still always error 1/error 5 or genie reboots.

I, like them, have given up as its taking too much time to sort out.

Br

You sure do some wrong.
Unlocked about 15 phones.
6280, 6234, 5200,3110c, e65, 6300 e.t.c.
Without problem.
Only with one have problem.
6300 with small new flash ic.
Not want with genie, give error.
But all others work without problem.
Only from genie batery, without supply, without usb cable.

P.S.
Upgrade your firmware also to last version.
With last version genie not restart, work stable.

yeldar · 11-15-2008, 11:17

Hi,

I managed to unlock a N95 yesterday after doing an update on genie clip, but the initial question wasn't telling you the software in the clip was not as stable but I think just to ask if you had thought about adding an optional pc based solution for your customers.

WBR

Daz

xpmobile · 11-15-2008, 14:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by James-R

HI,

They have unlocked about the same amount of phone's as me = none.

I have tried jaf/mt-box 8 and 10 pin cables, with convertor/without convertor, phone charger in/phone charger out, genie charger in/genie charger out, genie usb cable in/genie usb cable out and all combinations of them but still always error 1/error 5 or genie reboots.

I, like them, have given up as its taking too much time to sort out.

Br

Hi,

This is the know error I found and troubleshoot with.

Known errors:

1) Phone not in local mode.
2) "backup" error 0x03
3) "Uploading" error

Trouble shooting:
1) For N95 and some other model, there is two different resistor to be use with different phone firmware/hardware version. So select 5.1k on the adaptor if phone unable to set to local mode.

2) To fix backup error, what you need is to reformat the SD card and re-upload fresh SD card content with Genieclient.exe. Also try to check on the "lock" and make sure it is "writable"

3) Uploading error, check mbus. Mainly poor cable causing this error.

Hope this known errors will help you guys on it.

Best Regards
Alan Tan

NUGSM · 11-15-2008, 14:26

The cables with 9v battery connectors seem to work alot better with genie.
Also play with the resistance as xpmobile suggests, most seem ok with 5.1 but N80 for example i had to move up to the next switch

Bph&co · 11-15-2008, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeldar

Hi,
but the initial question wasn't telling you the software in the clip was not as stable but I think just to ask if you had thought about adding an optional pc based solution for your customers.

Hi Daz,

If we make PC version, it will be basically the same bb5notp.exe with USB
communication layer added. The PC soft will call usb device driver and
just call the same 'Upload' menu in the application.

As far as i can see the most problems are caused by bad cables, so the
PC version will inherit those problems.

The other option - to reimplement all in PC application and use the
clip as USB to SPI convertor (JAF/UFS...) will not bring any benefit, as
the actual HW interface is the same. Well, just my opinion.

Regarding that charging problem, i am sorry, it was just problem caused
by wrong thread priorities. I think it is sorted now. And i am still trying
to get as much as possible feedback and improve stability of Genie and
the unlock application.

BR

yeldar · 11-15-2008, 21:55

Thanks for reply mate, and for others who having problems it may be worth while to format card and re-load & update card again because I am sure that will solve some problems with reading/writing

WBR

Daz

Bph&co · 11-16-2008, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bph&co

...that implementation of our unlock on other
3th party box is more stable then ours, i can't agree.

Hi,

Just a follow up of our discussion and to backup my claim, please read
this.

Regards, Alex

Bungle__UK · 11-16-2008, 11:32

nice share keep it up...

.:GSM International:. · 11-16-2008, 12:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungle__UK

nice share keep it up...

Mate, stop being a twat and making stupid posts just to get your post count up!

If you wanna get it up, then post something USEFUL!

Fab_DM · 07-14-2009, 13:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by xpmobile

Hi,

This is the know error I found and troubleshoot with.

Known errors:

1) Phone not in local mode.
2) "backup" error 0x03
3) "Uploading" error

Trouble shooting:
1) For N95 and some other model, there is two different resistor to be use with different phone firmware/hardware version. So select 5.1k on the adaptor if phone unable to set to local mode.

2) To fix backup error, what you need is to reformat the SD card and re-upload fresh SD card content with Genieclient.exe. Also try to check on the "lock" and make sure it is "writable"

3) Uploading error, check mbus. Mainly poor cable causing this error.

Hope this known errors will help you guys on it.

Best Regards
Alan Tan

Please, silly questio i know but..how do i select local mode on the phone?

thank you!

Fab_DM · 07-14-2009, 14:11

Ah, also, i did everything with Genie and it has said DONE at the end. But when put another simcard just does't work and phone it's Offline...
Any idea why?

thank you again!

11-13-2008, 18:01	#1 (permalink)
R3GSM Major Poster Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 47 Member: 341849 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 3	Suggestion for Genie Team Is it possible to implement a pc based unlocker which wil only work when genie device is plugged into same pc. We are getting lots of problems using the standalone clip version, so maybe a pc based system would be an alternative method for users. Regards R3 Team

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11-13-2008, 20:57	#2 (permalink)
Bph&co No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,186 Member: 1024 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5,510	Hi, Highly doubt that the PC version will be more stable. What do you mean by lots of problems ? BR

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Bph&co No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: UK Posts: 3,186 Member: 1024 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 5,510	Hi James, Sorry to hear about your problems. I am sure that if you post detailed information and follow my instructions we can find the reason for your problems very quickly. If the situation is that desperate, send me pm, i will guide you via ICQ. But if you somehow imply that implementation of our unlock on other 3th party box is more stable then ours, i can't agree. Me and Dani have very bad experience, even to install one of those boxes takes hours - installing correct smart card drivers, fixing FTDI related USB problems, etc. In my view, if your cable is not extremely bad, should be easy to connect to the phone. Our implementation of the flashing/fbus protocol are Phoenix compatible. This is the reason that standart cables don't work sometimes. As usual somebody in China has tried to think and experiment with the cables in factory. Anyway, we test every update on as much as possible phones and devices we have in the office to minimize bugs, although i am not saying the device is not without bugs. Regards

11-15-2008, 11:17	#6 (permalink)
yeldar No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK/España Age: 54 Posts: 1,595 Member: 12578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 60	Hi, I managed to unlock a N95 yesterday after doing an update on genie clip, but the initial question wasn't telling you the software in the clip was not as stable but I think just to ask if you had thought about adding an optional pc based solution for your customers. WBR Daz

11-15-2008, 14:26	#8 (permalink)
NUGSM No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Age: 49 Posts: 661 Member: 4217 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 28	The cables with 9v battery connectors seem to work alot better with genie. Also play with the resistance as xpmobile suggests, most seem ok with 5.1 but N80 for example i had to move up to the next switch

11-15-2008, 21:55	#10 (permalink)
yeldar No Life Poster Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: UK/España Age: 54 Posts: 1,595 Member: 12578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 60	Thanks for reply mate, and for others who having problems it may be worth while to format card and re-load & update card again because I am sure that will solve some problems with reading/writing WBR Daz

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Bungle__UK Insane Poster Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: At Mad House Age: 43 Posts: 84 Member: 901192 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	nice share keep it up...

07-14-2009, 14:11	#15 (permalink)
Fab_DM Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 18 Member: 845118 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	Ah, also, i did everything with Genie and it has said DONE at the end. But when put another simcard just does't work and phone it's Offline... Any idea why? thank you again!