Beware of New Firmwares! - GSM-Forum

Lead · 04-02-2004, 16:04

As I've mentioned in the thread http://www.gsmbb.com/showthread.php?t=1656 few days ago, new firmwares R6B021 for T610, T618, T628, T630, Z600 and Z608 came out right now.

These firmwares, once uploaded to the phone, disable the possibility to boot the phone using bypass method or even using the original smartcard method by activating a special, previously hidden feature of the AVR ASIC 5B080201. This feature simply allows the firmware to disable the challenge-response authentication booting method and switches the ASIC to accept RSA1024-signed applets only.

Fortunately, there is a (rather complicated) way to reactivate the old bypass method.

Support for simple way of flashing phones with the new firmwares will be added within 2 weeks, and the support for simple decustomization within one month or later.

Regards,
Lead.

Eerchant · 04-02-2004, 16:23

That firmwares are already releasased on EMMA2 servers (so all Service point will start to use it now.....) and we all can expect also massive upgrading of existing Vodafone/T-Mobile and other MULTI National Operators....we all now what this means.........

Regards Eerchant

Pandemonio100 · 04-02-2004, 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eerchant

That firmwares are already releasased on EMMA2 servers (so all Service point will start to use it now.....) and we all can expect also massive upgrading of existing Vodafone/T-Mobile and other MULTI National Operators....we all now what this means.........

Regards Eerchant

All know now that after upload this version none can make nothing, no unlock no imei and no downgrade and no repair......but for the moment.
Never say never.

MicrostarGSM® · 04-02-2004, 17:32

Thanks For Your Information..

Lead · 04-02-2004, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandemonio100

All know now that after upload this version none can make nothing, no unlock no imei and no downgrade and no repair......but for the moment.
Never say never.

There is a way to downgrade/unlock/repair, but not as simple as you would like it to be...
Hopefully, we prepare "bypassable" versions of these firmwares soon.

Megaron · 04-02-2004, 18:41

Yeah.. hopefully.. and what if we get new phones with this "boot-protection"?
Will fighter be able to boot this phones?
I hope too...

Greetings, Megaron

Pandemonio100 · 04-02-2004, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead

There is a way to downgrade/unlock/repair, but not as simple as you would like it to be...
Hopefully, we prepare "bypassable" versions of these firmwares soon.

@Lead, I can tell only you good job.
@Megaron, your questions are in the words of Lead.

flin898 · 04-03-2004, 01:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eerchant

That firmwares are already releasased on EMMA2 servers (so all Service point will start to use it now.....) and we all can expect also massive upgrading of existing Vodafone/T-Mobile and other MULTI National Operators....we all now what this means.........

Regards Eerchant

Can you tell me what the EMMA2 mean?

Cheers.

MicrostarGSM® · 04-03-2004, 05:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by flin898

Can you tell me what the EMMA2 mean?

Cheers.

EMMA2 which is original SonyEricsson Service software

flin898 · 04-03-2004, 05:37

@ MicrostarGSM

Cheers mate.

Megaron · 04-03-2004, 06:47

Do the new phones (K700i / S700) also have this new protection?

Greetings, Megaron

muppet · 04-03-2004, 07:29

I suspect all phones are going to use this.

Signed applets shouldn't be a problem, they should be able to be copied.
It's going to be altered firmwares that we won't be able to use, because once you edit a firmware you're not going to have the private key to sign it again.

Correct me if I'm wrong btw.

James · 04-03-2004, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megaron

Do the new phones (K700i / S700) also have this new protection?

Greetings, Megaron

k700 s700 z1010 has new platform very hard to crack it.

hoangminhtam · 04-03-2004, 08:19

thanks for inf.
n i think gradually we have boot file to load to the phone before writting desired firmware !
wbr.!

sergo_zmeia · 04-03-2004, 08:58

Ill look forward to this solution..thank U!
BR!
Big8

04-02-2004, 16:04	#1 (permalink)
Lead No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 52 Posts: 3,292 Member: 1841 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 469	Beware of New Firmwares! As I've mentioned in the thread http://www.gsmbb.com/showthread.php?t=1656 few days ago, new firmwares R6B021 for T610, T618, T628, T630, Z600 and Z608 came out right now. These firmwares, once uploaded to the phone, disable the possibility to boot the phone using bypass method or even using the original smartcard method by activating a special, previously hidden feature of the AVR ASIC 5B080201. This feature simply allows the firmware to disable the challenge-response authentication booting method and switches the ASIC to accept RSA1024-signed applets only. Fortunately, there is a (rather complicated) way to reactivate the old bypass method. Support for simple way of flashing phones with the new firmwares will be added within 2 weeks, and the support for simple decustomization within one month or later. Regards, Lead.

04-03-2004, 08:58	#15 (permalink)
sergo_zmeia Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bulgaria Age: 48 Posts: 471 Member: 32284 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 4	Hi! Ill look forward to this solution..thank U! BR! Big8

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Megaron Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 279 Member: 44078 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Yeah.. hopefully.. and what if we get new phones with this "boot-protection"? Will fighter be able to boot this phones? I hope too... Greetings, Megaron

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flin898 Freak Poster Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 300 Member: 38573 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	@ MicrostarGSM Cheers mate.

04-03-2004, 06:47	#11 (permalink)
Megaron Freak Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 279 Member: 44078 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Do the new phones (K700i / S700) also have this new protection? Greetings, Megaron

04-03-2004, 07:29	#12 (permalink)
muppet No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 3,034 Member: 42570 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	I suspect all phones are going to use this. Signed applets shouldn't be a problem, they should be able to be copied. It's going to be altered firmwares that we won't be able to use, because once you edit a firmware you're not going to have the private key to sign it again. Correct me if I'm wrong btw.

04-03-2004, 08:19	#14 (permalink)
hoangminhtam Freak Poster Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: somewhere Age: 53 Posts: 308 Member: 32182 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	thanks for inf. n i think gradually we have boot file to load to the phone before writting desired firmware ! wbr.!