K310i Is Ok Agaian Alive - GSM-Forum

ch_rathore · 08-01-2006, 09:14

my k310i dead is cruiser and no reply lead iam use cruiser and another
user reffer is cruiser is best device but iam wrong se tool is best and always no 1 my k310i is again alive with se tools best best

tiri piri · 08-08-2006, 19:43

yes wright!!!!!!

the diferents is with cruiser must use brain

1amigo · 08-11-2006, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiri piri

yes wright!!!!!!

the diferents is with cruiser must use brain

i think you mean to say that cruiser makes it difficult and usb-smart makes it easy for the technician ! GREAT COMPLIMENTS !

odinb · 08-11-2006, 16:41

What he ment to say is that Cruiser is for power users.
With Cruiser you have to know what you are doing, which is considered by some as something negative. But this also makes Cruiser more flexible and versatile, which will benefit a power user a lot.

1amigo · 08-12-2006, 05:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinb

What he ment to say is that Cruiser is for power users.
With Cruiser you have to know what you are doing, which is considered by some as something negative. But this also makes Cruiser more flexible and versatile, which will benefit a power user a lot.

May be you are right, but if the other tool does the same things without making it complicated , still you would stick to waht you say ?

I did revive my K310i with the hints given by mobilextreme using cruiser only. I don't have anything against Cruiser, but i also find USB-smart very easy to use though.

Regards to all ! Never mean disrespecting or humiliating anyone !

odinb · 08-12-2006, 14:59

Ask around amongst the power users (those who unlock 20 phones a day or so) how many phones they have "killed" with Cruiser, and then compare to SETool or USB-smart, and you will get a clear answer.

Then ask how many of these "killed" phones were fixed using Cruiser, and I think you get the picture...

The only time Cruiser "kills" a phone is if the user does not know what he/she is doing, experimenting with undocumented features, the phone has a bad chip, water damage, or it is an unsupported phone.
And in the first scenario (the user does not know what he/she is doing), Cruiser will be able to repair it

1amigo · 08-12-2006, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinb

Ask around amongst the power users (those who unlock 20 phones a day or so) how many phones they have "killed" with Cruiser, and then compare to SETool or USB-smart, and you will get a clear answer.

Then ask how many of these "killed" phones were fixed using Cruiser, and I think you get the picture...

The only time Cruiser "kills" a phone is if the user does not know what he/she is doing, experimenting with undocumented features, the phone has a bad chip, water damage, or it is an unsupported phone.
And in the first scenario (the user does not know what he/she is doing), Cruiser will be able to repair it

I would consider a software GOOD if it quits when it finds an unsupported phone without killing it ! If the software writer knows his job well he should be able to easily incorporate it. Would you call that doctor a good doctor if he puts his aptient to a critical "comma" state (not dead as in our case) if he doesn't diagonise the illness properly and administers a wrong prescription for medicine or treatment ?

Sorry if you choose to disagree !

pearsonjohnboy · 08-12-2006, 15:33

all you had to do is flash it to bring back to life. what the big deal

odinb · 08-12-2006, 21:25

If you read the documentation and the phone you want to "operate" on is not amongst the supported phones, is it the applications fault if it fails then?

Cruiser is not the doctor, but merely the tool.

And by the way, this can happen with the other applications also....

1amigo · 08-13-2006, 04:05

YES, i think if the software is the best one, it should identify what it is connected with and should immediately disconnect with the error message that it is not a supported model or version. It is a different topic if one should use cruiser or not, because it is definitely a useful software, no doubts about it. If what i say can be implemented into it, it would become still better. I hope i am able to explain to you what i am trying to say.

!

odinb · 08-13-2006, 06:54

I understand what you are saying, but I do not think that you understand what I am trying to say. Cruiser is a tool, not a "doctor".

The function you want is already part of the software. Cruiser does not connect to an unknown phone, if the phone is unknown, it will tell you to report its TAC number, and stops right there! So, it is disconnecting with an error message!

It is then up to the user of the tool to decide if he/she wants to continue by selecting the phone manually. If you do, the phone "trusts" your choice.

This is what I call a powerful tool, it has built in security, but you are allowed to bypass it if you think you know what you are doing. This is what I am talking about when I say that it is a tool for a power user.

08-01-2006, 09:14	#1 (permalink)
ch_rathore No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 41 Posts: 619 Member: 170313 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 46	K310i Is Ok Agaian Alive my k310i dead is cruiser and no reply lead iam use cruiser and another user reffer is cruiser is best device but iam wrong se tool is best and always no 1 my k310i is again alive with se tools best best

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08-08-2006, 19:43	#2 (permalink)
tiri piri No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: romania brasov Age: 46 Posts: 705 Member: 19672 Status: Offline Sonork: 100.65069 Thanks Meter: 46	yes wright!!!!!! the diferents is with cruiser must use brain

08-11-2006, 16:41	#4 (permalink)
odinb No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: US/DK/S Posts: 705 Member: 76964 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	What he ment to say is that Cruiser is for power users. With Cruiser you have to know what you are doing, which is considered by some as something negative. But this also makes Cruiser more flexible and versatile, which will benefit a power user a lot.

08-12-2006, 14:59	#6 (permalink)
odinb No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: US/DK/S Posts: 705 Member: 76964 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Ask around amongst the power users (those who unlock 20 phones a day or so) how many phones they have "killed" with Cruiser, and then compare to SETool or USB-smart, and you will get a clear answer. Then ask how many of these "killed" phones were fixed using Cruiser, and I think you get the picture... The only time Cruiser "kills" a phone is if the user does not know what he/she is doing, experimenting with undocumented features, the phone has a bad chip, water damage, or it is an unsupported phone. And in the first scenario (the user does not know what he/she is doing), Cruiser will be able to repair it

08-12-2006, 15:33	#8 (permalink)
pearsonjohnboy No Life Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 952 Member: 214417 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 21	all you had to do is flash it to bring back to life. what the big deal

08-12-2006, 21:25	#9 (permalink)
odinb No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: US/DK/S Posts: 705 Member: 76964 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	If you read the documentation and the phone you want to "operate" on is not amongst the supported phones, is it the applications fault if it fails then? Cruiser is not the doctor, but merely the tool. And by the way, this can happen with the other applications also....

08-13-2006, 04:05	#10 (permalink)
1amigo No Life Poster Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: India Age: 73 Posts: 546 Member: 23587 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 63	YES, i think if the software is the best one, it should identify what it is connected with and should immediately disconnect with the error message that it is not a supported model or version. It is a different topic if one should use cruiser or not, because it is definitely a useful software, no doubts about it. If what i say can be implemented into it, it would become still better. I hope i am able to explain to you what i am trying to say. !

08-13-2006, 06:54	#11 (permalink)
odinb No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: US/DK/S Posts: 705 Member: 76964 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	I understand what you are saying, but I do not think that you understand what I am trying to say. Cruiser is a tool, not a "doctor". The function you want is already part of the software. Cruiser does not connect to an unknown phone, if the phone is unknown, it will tell you to report its TAC number, and stops right there! So, it is disconnecting with an error message! It is then up to the user of the tool to decide if he/she wants to continue by selecting the phone manually. If you do, the phone "trusts" your choice. This is what I call a powerful tool, it has built in security, but you are allowed to bypass it if you think you know what you are doing. This is what I am talking about when I say that it is a tool for a power user.