OTP check disable on new SE phones? - GSM-Forum

pobolius · 12-22-2004, 02:43

Does Cruiser still allow the OTP imei check disable feature, and if so does it include the new generation of phones like the k700i or have SE finally closed that loophole in their phones.

I ask because firstly i'm nosey and just wanna know, and secondly because just having software than can do it is an offence in some countries like Sweden, England and a few others.

Will the team be Releasing an Cruiser version of Interceptor for those countries.

muppet · 12-22-2004, 03:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by pobolius

Does Cruiser still allow the OTP imei check disable feature, and if so does it include the new generation of phones like the k700i or have SE finally closed that loophole in their phones.

I ask because firstly i'm nosey and just wanna know, and secondly because just having software than can do it is an offence in some countries like Sweden, England and a few others.

Will the team be Releasing an Cruiser version of Interceptor for those countries.

Well, I can't speak for the Team, but this is what Lead posted about this before.

Edit: Correct Link Posted!

anlog · 12-22-2004, 06:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppet

Well, I can't speak for the Team, but this is what Lead posted about this before.

I think you posted the wrong link.

muppet · 12-22-2004, 22:18

Yes, I managed to muppet that up badly!

Fixed now!

evan_silbert · 12-22-2004, 22:27

Well in response to that, bandlock change is possible now by setool2, so I guess it's just a matter of doing it without EMMA.

gbrooks3 · 12-22-2004, 23:01

@pobolius

Just a quick query, i live in UK and have always had Fighter not Interceptor and now i have cruiser. The Law contains a massive grey area in the UK. I was speaking to my brother in law a while ago, who is a lawyer, and he said that under an act passed in 2002 it doesnt actually say owning the tool is illegal. its only illegal if it has no option to disable the imei change feature and if it is sold with the intent of changing the imei.

confused, i am. i guess interceptor is just a safe way of distributing the product.

have a look

evan_silbert · 12-22-2004, 23:36

As I know, they could raid your shop and sieze any eqipment capable of changing IMEI. This is what I have heard. Correct me if I am wrong.

muppet · 12-22-2004, 23:52

Interesting:

Q:If a dealer sells SIM unlocking equipment, which has included within it an IMEI alteration facility that cannot be disabled, can the equipment be legitimately sold together with a warning to the customer that IMEI reprogramming is illegal (for example by issuing the Home Office leaflet)?
A:Yes. Supplying/possessing the equipment is only illegal if there is an intent to use the equipment for an unlawful purpose (i.e. reprogramming IMEI numbers).

It would seem if you install Fighter/Cruiser and remove the registry entry that allows you to change IMEI, you're probably OK. I am not a lawyer though

evan_silbert · 12-23-2004, 00:11

It will still have the IMEI window though, grayed out.

I think this is why some programs like Martech and MSS have warnings when starting the program or using the unlock/IMEI functions.

pobolius · 12-23-2004, 01:35

Well i know of some people who had their Fighter and their Griffin confiscated by the police only to have them returned later, i think it's a case of there being a law but the police have no real idea what can do what.

UnlockBR · 12-23-2004, 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by evan_silbert

Well in response to that, bandlock change is possible now by setool2, so I guess it's just a matter of doing it without EMMA.

@evan_silbert,

Is setool2 any official SE service software?? If not, where can I get it? Or even better... Lead when this function is planned to be avaiable in Cruiser?? I really need this to Z1010 as here we only have 1800MHz GSM networks and Z1010 are locked to 900 only!!

Thanks,

evan_silbert · 12-23-2004, 04:37

setool2 is the_laser's server. You can buy credits from www.unlocker.ru but this is not an advertisement for this product. I am just telling you that they have this solution, so if bandlock is possible then IMEI change should be too by Lead's logic.

UnlockBR · 12-23-2004, 05:00

Tks for your explanation.... I know the server but I did not this was its name... I will wait for Lead reply and depending on his anwer I will get some credits

Tks again,

the_laser · 12-23-2004, 07:55

"bandlock" can be done at no-time, so i expect next cruiser will have it ... also it will have imei change.

SFlood · 12-23-2004, 10:40

I hope in near future no software will have ability to change imei numbers.
Bandlock, etc are easier than imei change and i still think most imei changes are made for criminal purposes.

12-22-2004, 02:43	#1 (permalink)
pobolius Freak Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: GSM Age: 54 Posts: 134 Member: 30157 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	OTP check disable on new SE phones? Does Cruiser still allow the OTP imei check disable feature, and if so does it include the new generation of phones like the k700i or have SE finally closed that loophole in their phones. I ask because firstly i'm nosey and just wanna know, and secondly because just having software than can do it is an offence in some countries like Sweden, England and a few others. Will the team be Releasing an Cruiser version of Interceptor for those countries.

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muppet No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 3,034 Member: 42570 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	Yes, I managed to muppet that up badly! Fixed now!

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evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	Well in response to that, bandlock change is possible now by setool2, so I guess it's just a matter of doing it without EMMA.

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gbrooks3 No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: 0xBA, 0xBE Age: 38 Posts: 690 Member: 73743 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	@pobolius Just a quick query, i live in UK and have always had Fighter not Interceptor and now i have cruiser. The Law contains a massive grey area in the UK. I was speaking to my brother in law a while ago, who is a lawyer, and he said that under an act passed in 2002 it doesnt actually say owning the tool is illegal. its only illegal if it has no option to disable the imei change feature and if it is sold with the intent of changing the imei. confused, i am. i guess interceptor is just a safe way of distributing the product. have a look

12-22-2004, 23:36	#7 (permalink)
evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	As I know, they could raid your shop and sieze any eqipment capable of changing IMEI. This is what I have heard. Correct me if I am wrong.

12-22-2004, 23:52	#8 (permalink)
muppet No Life Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 3,034 Member: 42570 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 11	Interesting: Q:If a dealer sells SIM unlocking equipment, which has included within it an IMEI alteration facility that cannot be disabled, can the equipment be legitimately sold together with a warning to the customer that IMEI reprogramming is illegal (for example by issuing the Home Office leaflet)? A:Yes. Supplying/possessing the equipment is only illegal if there is an intent to use the equipment for an unlawful purpose (i.e. reprogramming IMEI numbers). It would seem if you install Fighter/Cruiser and remove the registry entry that allows you to change IMEI, you're probably OK. I am not a lawyer though

12-23-2004, 00:11	#9 (permalink)
evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	It will still have the IMEI window though, grayed out. I think this is why some programs like Martech and MSS have warnings when starting the program or using the unlock/IMEI functions.

12-23-2004, 01:35	#10 (permalink)
pobolius Freak Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: GSM Age: 54 Posts: 134 Member: 30157 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Well i know of some people who had their Fighter and their Griffin confiscated by the police only to have them returned later, i think it's a case of there being a law but the police have no real idea what can do what.

12-23-2004, 04:37	#12 (permalink)
evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	setool2 is the_laser's server. You can buy credits from www.unlocker.ru but this is not an advertisement for this product. I am just telling you that they have this solution, so if bandlock is possible then IMEI change should be too by Lead's logic.

12-23-2004, 05:00	#13 (permalink)
UnlockBR No Life Poster Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sao Paulo - BRAZIL Age: 49 Posts: 1,512 Member: 26751 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2	Tks for your explanation.... I know the server but I did not this was its name... I will wait for Lead reply and depending on his anwer I will get some credits Tks again,

12-23-2004, 07:55	#14 (permalink)
the_laser No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Russia Age: 44 Posts: 2,681 Member: 9519 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 2,150	"bandlock" can be done at no-time, so i expect next cruiser will have it ... also it will have imei change.

12-23-2004, 10:40	#15 (permalink)
SFlood No Life Poster Join Date: May 1999 Location: RU Posts: 906 Member: 83 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	I hope in near future no software will have ability to change imei numbers. Bandlock, etc are easier than imei change and i still think most imei changes are made for criminal purposes.