R.I.P. Fighter is Dead - GSM-Forum

leosneffe · 12-16-2004, 23:21

Yeah great Deal,

for 1 year ago i have buy my fighter, i think at this time it was the best SE tool. but 1 year later it is old ****... yeah.

my reseller dont work with new fighter team, respekt i do the same, why ?

no support files, new mr. marketing have only $$$ in there eyes and do nothing for the customers.

i respekt leads work but the other **** is not professionel , its only make some "speed" money, but not with old fighter users!!

muppet · 12-16-2004, 23:30

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

for 1 year ago i have buy my fighter, i think at this time it was the best SE tool. but 1 year later it is old ****... yeah.

And it still is the best tool for almost all SE phones.

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

my reseller dont work with new fighter team, respekt i do the same, why ?

This doesn't make sense, what are you trying to say? If your current reseller won't allow you to trade up to Cruiser, find another reseller. You can return your Fighter to any Cruiser reseller, it doesn't have to be the one you bought Fighter from.

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

no support files, new mr. marketing have only $$$ in there eyes and do nothing for the customers.

There's a new support server on the way, it's very fast and will have all the flashes on it. It is being installed both for Cruiser and Fighter customers.

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

i respekt leads work but the other **** is not professionel , its only make some "speed" money, but not with old fighter users!!

If they were only trying to make a quick bit of money, why would they have purchased a new support server? Gone to the trouble of researching the new phones, making new Smart Cards, talking with the resellers?

You have a lot of words but you really don't know what you're talking about.

leosneffe · 12-16-2004, 23:57

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Originally Posted by muppet

If they were only trying to make a quick bit of money, why would they have purchased a new support server? Gone to the trouble of researching the new phones, making new Smart Cards, talking with the resellers?

You have a lot of words but you really don't know what you're talking about.

New Server *lol*who is it, i here nothing from new mr. marketing . . . only old words , this talk have startet 8 months ago and go in the year 2005.

anlog · 12-17-2004, 01:22

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

New Server *lol*who is it, i here nothing from new mr. marketing . . . only old words , this talk have startet 8 months ago and go in the year 2005.

Here is the link to the new support server: http://www.microengineers.cc/cruiser...enu=10&lng=eng

Logins and passwords will be given in the next few days.

This thread is completely unnecessary - you are about the 200th person to rant like this...

fuzionGSM · 12-17-2004, 01:52

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Originally Posted by muppet

If they were only trying to make a quick bit of money, why would they have purchased a new support server? Gone to the trouble of researching the new phones, making new Smart Cards, talking with the resellers?

You have a lot of words but you really don't know what you're talking about.

support server does not mean that it will actually be there for support... could be there to host install files..

their old support server was also available to us... but what did it have on it? only flash files

or maybe their old support server is about to die... many problems...

there are many reasons for getting a new server

and researching new phones but releasing it in brand new software, that is a way of making quick money...
sure, they can say that the smart card for fighter is full... but how do we know that?!?!?!

muppet · 12-17-2004, 03:15

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Originally Posted by fuzionGSM

support server does not mean that it will actually be there for support... could be there to host install files..

It's for more than install files.

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Originally Posted by fuzionGSM

their old support server was also available to us... but what did it have on it? only flash files

Correct, due to legal concerns. This new server is in a place where this isn't a problem anymore.

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Originally Posted by fuzionGSM

or maybe their old support server is about to die... many problems...

I think the old server will stay, but it will never host flash files.

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Originally Posted by fuzionGSM

there are many reasons for getting a new server

and researching new phones but releasing it in brand new software, that is a way of making quick money...
sure, they can say that the smart card for fighter is full... but how do we know that?!?!?!

I disagree it's a way of making quick money. It is a way of making money, but I don't think you can argue the team don't have a right to do this. We're all here to make money aren't we?
This is a major update and if they want to charge for it they have a right to do so. People here don't appreciate how hard it is to code, test and debug something as complex as Fighter/Cruiser. When I go to work, I expect to get paid. Why is their situation different? My work doesn't just pay me once and expect me to work forever. They'd love it if I did, but it's not going to happen!

The reason for the new SmartCard is due to the fact there is no way to upload new "firmware" to it in a secure manner. If Lead released a Fighter->Cruiser upgrade program, Cruiser (and Fighter) could probably be cracked very quickly.

anlog · 12-17-2004, 06:22

Trust us, the support site is delicious...

(BTW, 320KBytes/sec is my max speed for this connection. I've pulled 800KBytes/sec from the site from another location.

Any questions?

Invisible · 12-17-2004, 11:22

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Originally Posted by muppet

I disagree it's a way of making quick money. It is a way of making money, but I don't think you can argue the team don't have a right to do this. We're all here to make money aren't we?
This is a major update and if they want to charge for it they have a right to do so.....

yeah, they have the right to do it but we had been lied, like in:
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/show...7&postcount=38
they should had been honest and tell us about cruiser instread to make us wait, wait & wait and when first stand-alone solution appear (nemesis) release cruiser to continue getting ca$h,

Fighter team have no better members than others, I mean, Mizar, Lead, all they think same (from which I deduced from Lead mails),

words and promisses are free and easy to make....

best regards
Invisible

evan_silbert · 12-17-2004, 15:26

Guys, you know Lead is an amazing SE programmer. Don't you remember how much you loved your fighter with T6xx and T23x phones when they were new? The advanced GDFS functions, custom security I areas, to name a few. What about PDA flashing? Full Pxxx flashing is possible by Lead's programming. It is also the only GSM software to never be cracked patched or modified.

I agree that to some extent the policies of Mizar are not those that were expected after the SphereGSM days, but I am still thankful that he kept the project from being stopped. He is giving that beautiful support site to all customers including Fighter customers so be happy

We all have said that the upgrade price is high, but now that I think about it, Martech is an elite tool because it is so expensive and most inexperienced unlockers don't have it. Why not let Cruiser be that way too?

As I have posted before, as soon as the need for servicing large quantities of these phones comes to America, count me in

simplesolutions · 12-17-2004, 15:57

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Originally Posted by leosneffe

Yeah great Deal,

for 1 year ago i have buy my fighter, i think at this time it was the best SE tool. but 1 year later it is old ****... yeah.

my reseller dont work with new fighter team, respekt i do the same, why ?

no support files, new mr. marketing have only $$$ in there eyes and do nothing for the customers.

i respekt leads work but the other **** is not professionel , its only make some "speed" money, but not with old fighter users!!

fighter team still is the best to tell the truth in year am sure you must covered your money back plus lead is not ditching his old customers he will still repair and fix bugs in old fighter versions just unlocking and support for new phones wont be added flashing has been added plus I don’t remember another team like fighter given free support for such long period of time they are just charging for the upgrade so if you don’t want the upgrade you can stick 2 your old tool and wait 4 zulea free solution if it ever comes

Invisible · 12-17-2004, 17:59

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Originally Posted by evan_silbert

Guys, you know Lead is an amazing SE programmer....

yeah, we all agree on this

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Originally Posted by evan_silbert

I agree that to some extent the policies of Mizar are not those that were expected after the SphereGSM days, but I am still thankful that he kept the project from being stopped. He is giving that beautiful support site to all customers including Fighter customers so be happy

we had been last months without offical support site,
without the help of some ******** fighter users that set up few ftp some users would had been leaved f.....
Q: Why now?,
A: cause of is "time to sell cruiser"

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Originally Posted by evan_silbert

We all have said that the upgrade price is high, but now that I think about it, Martech is an elite tool because it is so expensive and most inexperienced unlockers don't have it. Why not let Cruiser be that way too?

Martech is not elite tool since contains portions from freia (free),
Freia is elite tool and still best Nutzo gave it free,
No direct relation between quality and money,
do you think ferrari are the faster cars in the word?

Anyway is x-mass time

let´s be happy!

best regards
Invisible

evan_silbert · 12-17-2004, 19:28

There are some repair operations that can only be done with Martech. The point is that most people don't have it. Maybe Cruiser will be the same

Merry Christmas to you, friend

gorbulas · 12-17-2004, 21:55

For me there is no need for an support server at the moment, i received my Cruiser upgrade today, included is 1 DVD and 1 CD with all flash and language files, even K700 R2AE033., all K500 and all S700 files.

I ordered mine from unlockcellular.com and all went fine!

Best regards

Markus

galahad13 · 12-17-2004, 22:46

Very nice that MPT can help their german customers getting decustomised phones with the actually software tool.

Greets
*****

Ryu · 12-20-2004, 04:42

Fighter team, can we have K700i R2L firmware to download? thanks!

12-16-2004, 23:21	#1 (permalink)
leosneffe Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 61 Posts: 26 Member: 71569 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	R.I.P. Fighter is Dead Yeah great Deal, for 1 year ago i have buy my fighter, i think at this time it was the best SE tool. but 1 year later it is old **... yeah. my reseller dont work with new fighter team, respekt i do the same, why ? no support files, new mr. marketing have only $$$ in there eyes and do nothing for the customers. i respekt leads work but the other ** is not professionel , its only make some "speed" money, but not with old fighter users!!

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anlog No Life Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southern California, USA Posts: 583 Member: 51190 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Trust us, the support site is delicious... (BTW, 320KBytes/sec is my max speed for this connection. I've pulled 800KBytes/sec from the site from another location. Any questions?

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evan_silbert No Life Poster Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 5,027 Member: 21920 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 10	Guys, you know Lead is an amazing SE programmer. Don't you remember how much you loved your fighter with T6xx and T23x phones when they were new? The advanced GDFS functions, custom security I areas, to name a few. What about PDA flashing? Full Pxxx flashing is possible by Lead's programming. It is also the only GSM software to never be cracked patched or modified. I agree that to some extent the policies of Mizar are not those that were expected after the SphereGSM days, but I am still thankful that he kept the project from being stopped. He is giving that beautiful support site to all customers including Fighter customers so be happy We all have said that the upgrade price is high, but now that I think about it, Martech is an elite tool because it is so expensive and most inexperienced unlockers don't have it. Why not let Cruiser be that way too? As I have posted before, as soon as the need for servicing large quantities of these phones comes to America, count me in

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