Thanx Lead for deleting my thread, moderator=dictator? - GSM-Forum

MG77 · 01-19-2005, 09:47

I've simply posted a thread that Cruiser is not the only standalone solution any more and what happens? You delete it! I was pointing out that it wasn't advertisment for SE****!

Mizar · 01-19-2005, 09:59

Dear friend, your post was an advertisement. Even if you thought that it is not. And also the reactions. This don't have a place at this Fighter/Cruiser forum. Don't take us wrongly. But that kind of threads should me in different section.

Mizar

essojay · 01-19-2005, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizar

Dear friend, your post was an advertisement. Even if you thought that it is not. And also the reactions. This don't have a place at this Fighter/Cruiser forum. Don't take us wrongly. But that kind of threads should me in different section.

Mizar

Some level of tolerance is well the minimum requirement in this regard, the of*****ng part of the thread could have been taken out and not the whole thread, its a little bit of intolerance.

Fighter / Cruiser is a good product, but deleting wholesomely critical comment is not the best in this situation, Critism or alternatives should be seen as a wake up call and a healthy challenge not as an affront.

bR

Ehreen · 01-19-2005, 10:11

well said essojay

gorbulas · 01-19-2005, 11:03

Deleting something they wont read, hear or see is not the only way here.

They have another perfect solution for unwanted posts, they simply ignore it until it disapears on page x

wbr

Markus

swallow · 01-19-2005, 17:43

I was busy looking for that thread until I noticed it's already deleted..

fonetech · 01-19-2005, 18:58

I wouldnt buy Cruiser and am delighted theres a new tool

no more monopoly for this crap tool

gbrooks3 · 01-19-2005, 19:04

@fonetech

so you wont by cruiser? thats nice for you. But you may miss out on some big things. Cruiser is still the best SE solution, Setool Standalone has yet to prove otherwise.

sale · 01-19-2005, 19:05

tool is not crap...competition is welcomed...nice tool...

Lead · 01-20-2005, 01:44

Both Cruiser and SE Tool standalone are good tools.

SE Tool has just set the prices to a lower level. Since it requires users to have an UFS-based box designed by Saras (does Laser pay license fees to him?), the price may be tolerated - although we are unhappy seeing it so low.

On the other hand, Cruiser price was set to leave at least some space for new forthcoming products. One may be sure that people have earned a lot of money with Cruiser before the end of the previous year, so it was definitely worth buying it.

Now, as our monopoly position has inevitably disappeared, we have to reflect the situation by new pricing...

Best regards,
Lead.

essojay · 01-20-2005, 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lead

Both Cruiser and SE Tool standalone are good tools.

SE Tool has just set the prices to a lower level. Since it requires users to have an UFS-based box designed by Saras (does Laser pay license fees to him?), the price may be tolerated - although we are unhappy seeing it so low.

On the other hand, Cruiser price was set to leave at least some space for new forthcoming products. One may be sure that people have earned a lot of money with Cruiser before the end of the previous year, so it was definitely worth buying it.

Now, as our monopoly position has inevitably disappeared, we have to reflect the situation by new pricing...

Best regards,
Lead.

This kind of spirit is really welcomed, and we ll be waiting for the change in price as quickly as possible..

bR

shaaker · 01-20-2005, 02:04

Maybe with your easy copiable product you'll have day to day more competitors, so your "monopoly" have lost just when did you released Cruiser?

pig · 01-20-2005, 02:09

why are postings being taken off! lead why do you take them off! its good to have another product out there now! you should have thought more of your customers! instead you brought something new out! and your customers were not very happy! but in bizz its your customers that make or break you!
and you still have a lot of unhappy customers! and yes im one of them with fighter! now you think about bringing your prices down! when you are loosing money! and the market place were you were NO1 at one time with fighter!

Lead · 01-20-2005, 02:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by pig

why are postings being taken off! lead why do you take them off! its good to have another product out there now! you should have thought more of your customers! instead you brought something new out! and your customers were not very happy! but in bizz its your customers that make or break you!
and you still have a lot of unhappy customers! and yes im one of them with fighter! now you think about bringing your prices down! when you are loosing money! and the market place were you were NO1 at one time with fighter!

I removed only the thread started by MG77. I never deleted any other thread in this forum!
The previous thread about SE Tool was deleted by administrator Winner58 himself.

Lead · 01-20-2005, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaaker

Maybe with your easy copiable product you'll have day to day more competitors, so your "monopoly" have lost just when did you released Cruiser?

I think Nemesis clip more easily copiable into a standalone software. It was released a day before Cruiser.

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MG77 No Life Poster Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,191 Member: 72567 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 8	Thanx Lead for deleting my thread, moderator=dictator? I've simply posted a thread that Cruiser is not the only standalone solution any more and what happens? You delete it! I was pointing out that it wasn't advertisment for SE****!

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