duplicate sim card - GSM-Forum

nokia6600 · 03-17-2004, 19:49

i have 2 eggs.. the left and the right.. nonono.. i meant 2 phones, and two simcards (one working simcard and one "expired" simcard (unused pay as u go for ages))
question> is there a possibility to duplicate my working simcard so that i dont need to swap between 2 phones? example, i want to use a certain phone in a certain occasion and my second fone on a different occasion?
thanks

SirGraham · 03-18-2004, 07:55

Hi,

Yes there is.... clone the card. You extract some data of yout SIM (IMSI & Ki) and put this data in new emulator in card (SIMEMU). This emulator can use some number in one SIM.

Regards,
Sir Graham.

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Dworkin · 03-18-2004, 13:30

you can help me please , for find my KI , because the software read the sim card (about 9hour) and he cann't read KI , i don't understend ?
you can helps me , i use "Cardinal 68"

i créate the 8 in 1 , but i can't find KI for my sim card ?

regards.

SirGraham · 03-18-2004, 14:39

Hi,

Perhaps you card have COMP128 v2. There is two kind cards: With COMP128 v1 and with COMP128 v2. In the V2 there isn´t any aplication to extract the Ki.

However, You can try with other software: Simscan or XSim
(You can download the XSim 0.06 from the ********** Web Page or the FTP)

Regards,
Sir Graham.

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nokia6600 · 03-18-2004, 19:34

SirGraham
where can i buy the hardware and software?? and roughly how much will it cost me?
thanks

SirGraham · 03-18-2004, 21:50

Hi,

Normaly you need two devices: A phoenix reader (about 14€) y PIC programmer (the same of the Phoenix).

The software are Free and you can download of **********.

I know sites to buy in spain .... Here There is one manufactured of this devices: Coelma.

Regards,
Sir Graham

nokia6600 · 03-19-2004, 18:13

SirGraham ..
hi again .. but i dont understand spanish... is there a website in english language...

SirGraham · 03-20-2004, 10:48

Hi,

You don´t need to know spanish to use FTP ... ¿?.
And you can use the Web translator to understand a little......

Regards,
Sir Graham.

Farzina Manji · 03-26-2004, 11:12

If I want to receive the message in two sim cards with different numbers is it possible?
E.g I have two peolple I want to know their messages One is 123649, the other is 765432 and my number is 4855543 Now I want to receive their incomings and outgoing sms in my mobile without them knowing even if they activate the delivery reports it should not show my number as delivered. Is it possible?

SirGraham · 03-26-2004, 14:48

Hi,

I afraid that not. The SIM clone permits change the number but only of this are activate at the same time....

To Spy the SMS the other people you need scanner the radio signal and decode the data....

Regars,
Sir Graham.

Farzina Manji · 03-31-2004, 11:03

Thanks for your reply please can you help me find the scanner radio signal and decode the data.

SirGraham · 03-31-2004, 11:10

Hi,

This is not easy. I suppose that good scanner can be make this operations.
Now we are working with AOR AR-3000 (we haven´t more money for other).

And we have two basic problems:

-1. The Wideband (in WFM band): You need 200Khz of wideband and direct output of the discriminator (digital output with any filter).

-2. The control of the Frecuency hopping. The GSM channel change quickly and the scanner must be support this change.

Regards,
Sir Graham.

sparticus · 02-10-2005, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirGraham

Hi,

This is not easy. I suppose that good scanner can be make this operations.
Now we are working with AOR AR-3000 (we haven´t more money for other).

And we have two basic problems:

-1. The Wideband (in WFM band): You need 200Khz of wideband and direct output of the discriminator (digital output with any filter).

-2. The control of the Frecuency hopping. The GSM channel change quickly and the scanner must be support this change.

Regards,
Sir Graham.

HAVE YOU GOT ANY FUTHER WITH THIS PROJECT ??? IS THIS POSSIBLE YET ??

rrrr · 02-11-2005, 09:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparticus

HAVE YOU GOT ANY FUTHER WITH THIS PROJECT ??? IS THIS POSSIBLE YET ??

where can i buy the hardware and software?? and roughly how much will it cost me?
thanks

sparticus · 02-12-2005, 23:48

you can get a servalance phone scanner at [url]www.detectnu.nl
this system will allow you to listen in on any gsm phone but i don't know the cost and you may need to be part of an official organisation or doucuments to support that!!

03-17-2004, 19:49	#1 (permalink)
nokia6600 Insane Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 67 Member: 53961 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	duplicate sim card i have 2 eggs.. the left and the right.. nonono.. i meant 2 phones, and two simcards (one working simcard and one "expired" simcard (unused pay as u go for ages)) question> is there a possibility to duplicate my working simcard so that i dont need to swap between 2 phones? example, i want to use a certain phone in a certain occasion and my second fone on a different occasion? thanks

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sparticus Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 8 Member: 105444 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Scanner you can get a servalance phone scanner at [url]www.detectnu.nl this system will allow you to listen in on any gsm phone but i don't know the cost and you may need to be part of an official organisation or doucuments to support that!!

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03-18-2004, 07:55	#2 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, Yes there is.... clone the card. You extract some data of yout SIM (IMSI & Ki) and put this data in new emulator in card (SIMEMU). This emulator can use some number in one SIM. Regards, Sir Graham. [img]http://www.********.es/avatars/Logo.jpg[/img] WEB: http://www.******.es FORO: http://www.******.es/forum FTP: ftp://******.es Login: public Password: public**

03-18-2004, 13:30	#3 (permalink)
Dworkin Insane Poster Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 95 Member: 51127 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	you can help me please , for find my KI , because the software read the sim card (about 9hour) and he cann't read KI , i don't understend ? you can helps me , i use "Cardinal 68" i créate the 8 in 1 , but i can't find KI for my sim card ? regards.

03-18-2004, 14:39	#4 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, Perhaps you card have COMP128 v2. There is two kind cards: With COMP128 v1 and with COMP128 v2. In the V2 there isn´t any aplication to extract the Ki. However, You can try with other software: Simscan or XSim (You can download the XSim 0.06 from the ******** Web Page or the FTP) Regards, Sir Graham. [img]http://www.******.es/avatars/Logo.jpg[/img] WEB: http://www.******.es FORO: http://www.******.es/forum FTP: ftp://******.es Login: public Password: public**

03-18-2004, 19:34	#5 (permalink)
nokia6600 Insane Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 67 Member: 53961 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	SirGraham where can i buy the hardware and software?? and roughly how much will it cost me? thanks

03-18-2004, 21:50	#6 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, Normaly you need two devices: A phoenix reader (about 14€) y PIC programmer (the same of the Phoenix). The software are Free and you can download of **********. I know sites to buy in spain .... Here There is one manufactured of this devices: Coelma. Regards, Sir Graham

03-19-2004, 18:13	#7 (permalink)
nokia6600 Insane Poster Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 49 Posts: 67 Member: 53961 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 1	SirGraham .. hi again .. but i dont understand spanish... is there a website in english language...

03-20-2004, 10:48	#8 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, You don´t need to know spanish to use FTP ... ¿?. And you can use the Web translator to understand a little...... Regards, Sir Graham.

03-26-2004, 11:12	#9 (permalink)
Farzina Manji Insane Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Africa,Tanzania,Mwanza Age: 55 Posts: 63 Member: 40578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	If I want to receive the message in two sim cards with different numbers is it possible? E.g I have two peolple I want to know their messages One is 123649, the other is 765432 and my number is 4855543 Now I want to receive their incomings and outgoing sms in my mobile without them knowing even if they activate the delivery reports it should not show my number as delivered. Is it possible?

03-26-2004, 14:48	#10 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, I afraid that not. The SIM clone permits change the number but only of this are activate at the same time.... To Spy the SMS the other people you need scanner the radio signal and decode the data.... Regars, Sir Graham.

03-31-2004, 11:03	#11 (permalink)
Farzina Manji Insane Poster Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: East Africa,Tanzania,Mwanza Age: 55 Posts: 63 Member: 40578 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 0	Thanks for your reply please can you help me find the scanner radio signal and decode the data.

03-31-2004, 11:10	#12 (permalink)
SirGraham No Life Poster Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 628 Member: 15073 Status: Offline Thanks Meter: 12	Hi, This is not easy. I suppose that good scanner can be make this operations. Now we are working with AOR AR-3000 (we haven´t more money for other). And we have two basic problems: -1. The Wideband (in WFM band): You need 200Khz of wideband and direct output of the discriminator (digital output with any filter). -2. The control of the Frecuency hopping. The GSM channel change quickly and the scanner must be support this change. Regards, Sir Graham.