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MarkCUK · 12-17-2004, 11:31

Hi all,

I'm looking at various sim server platforms for our GSM gateway business and thought that the technology used by sim servers might be relevant to sim cloning.

What is interesting about these systems is that the sims are stored in a central server (256 sims per shelf) and the sims are emulated at the remote mobile station which could be hundreds of kilometers away. All information about the sim is read in the central server and then transported over an IP link to the remote GSM modules which have sim emulater hardware in place of the actual sim card.

Any number of GSM gateways can be installed in various locations without Simcards, these are held in a central location (Local SCU) and have a direct IP connection to the terminating units (remote location), the remote
gateways request the simcard information required via the IP link and the SCU passes virtual sim information to the Gateway which using this information can terminate the GSM Calls.

If these devices can emulate a sim card why can't we capture the information transmitted between the handset and the sim and use this to clone super sims. These systems work with COMP128v2 sims.

More details are available from the various sim server companies. All seem to be from Germany.

http://www.implementa.com/frame.php?...imserv&lang=de

http://www.gsm-gateways.de/www_vierl...0_f.htm?query=

Cheers

Mark

platforms · 12-17-2004, 12:02

Good Info but how can we clone SAT TV cards????

Jgga · 12-19-2004, 11:31

Wow u wanna clone Sat Tv man! if it's possible tell me how to do it because in my country it's too expensive, per month u have to pay 100 Usd
Best regards

GSM_look · 12-28-2004, 13:26

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waji225 · 11-16-2009, 06:43

u can check how many sims registered against your CNIC from here

SIM Information System

njfreeman · 11-20-2009, 23:25

SAT tv cards have very strong encryption and protection methods installed to stop you cloning them.

In order to get data off these cards you are looking at taking off the top layer of silicon with lasers or acid.

dipendra_22 · 11-21-2009, 15:44

Hi all,

I'm looking at various sim server platforms for our GSM gateway business and thought that the technology used by sim servers might be relevant to sim cloning.

What is interesting about these systems is that the sims are stored in a central server (256 sims per shelf) and the sims are emulated at the remote mobile station which could be hundreds of kilometers away. All information about the sim is read in the central server and then transported over an IP link to the remote GSM modules which have sim emulater hardware in place of the actual sim card.

Any number of GSM gateways can be installed in various locations without Simcards, these are held in a central location (Local SCU) and have a direct IP connection to the terminating units (remote location), the remote
gateways request the simcard information required via the IP link and the SCU passes virtual sim information to the Gateway which using this information can terminate the GSM Calls.

If these devices can emulate a sim card why can't we capture the information transmitted between the handset and the sim and use this to clone super sims. These systems work with COMP128v2 sims.

More details are available from the various sim server companies. All seem to be from Germany.

http://www.implementa.com/frame.php?...imserv&lang=de

http://www.gsm-gateways.de/www_vierl...0_f.htm?query=

Cheers

Mark

omgtrash · 11-21-2009, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by njfreeman

SAT tv cards have very strong encryption and protection methods installed to stop you cloning them.

In order to get data off these cards you are looking at taking off the top layer of silicon with lasers or acid.

This is correct, also not to mention that the data automatically Zeros out upon trying to access data without the corresponding keys on most new cards (e.g. Nagra 2)

Decent4u · 01-17-2013, 16:39

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12-17-2004, 11:31	#1 (permalink)
MarkCUK Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Age: 45 Posts: 2 Member: 97878 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	GSM Sim Servers Hi all, I'm looking at various sim server platforms for our GSM gateway business and thought that the technology used by sim servers might be relevant to sim cloning. What is interesting about these systems is that the sims are stored in a central server (256 sims per shelf) and the sims are emulated at the remote mobile station which could be hundreds of kilometers away. All information about the sim is read in the central server and then transported over an IP link to the remote GSM modules which have sim emulater hardware in place of the actual sim card. Any number of GSM gateways can be installed in various locations without Simcards, these are held in a central location (Local SCU) and have a direct IP connection to the terminating units (remote location), the remote gateways request the simcard information required via the IP link and the SCU passes virtual sim information to the Gateway which using this information can terminate the GSM Calls. If these devices can emulate a sim card why can't we capture the information transmitted between the handset and the sim and use this to clone super sims. These systems work with COMP128v2 sims. More details are available from the various sim server companies. All seem to be from Germany. http://www.implementa.com/frame.php?...imserv&lang=de http://www.gsm-gateways.de/www_vierl...0_f.htm?query= Cheers Mark

11-16-2009, 06:43	#5 (permalink)
waji225 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1 Member: 1162398 Status: Offline Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SIM Information System u can check how many sims registered against your CNIC from here SIM Information System

11-21-2009, 15:44	#7 (permalink)
dipendra_22 Freak Poster Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 151 Member: 1035338 Status: Offline Sonork: 9391 Thanks: 115 Thanked 194 Times in 79 Posts	gsm sim problem service new pack Hi all, I'm looking at various sim server platforms for our GSM gateway business and thought that the technology used by sim servers might be relevant to sim cloning. What is interesting about these systems is that the sims are stored in a central server (256 sims per shelf) and the sims are emulated at the remote mobile station which could be hundreds of kilometers away. All information about the sim is read in the central server and then transported over an IP link to the remote GSM modules which have sim emulater hardware in place of the actual sim card. Any number of GSM gateways can be installed in various locations without Simcards, these are held in a central location (Local SCU) and have a direct IP connection to the terminating units (remote location), the remote gateways request the simcard information required via the IP link and the SCU passes virtual sim information to the Gateway which using this information can terminate the GSM Calls. If these devices can emulate a sim card why can't we capture the information transmitted between the handset and the sim and use this to clone super sims. These systems work with COMP128v2 sims. More details are available from the various sim server companies. All seem to be from Germany. http://www.implementa.com/frame.php?...imserv&lang=de http://www.gsm-gateways.de/www_vierl...0_f.htm?query= Cheers Mark

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Decent4u Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 1 Member: 1869962 Status: Offline Sonork: 785 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hmmm interesting post thanks............... Funny SMS