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Old 02-28-2006, 09:22   #1 (permalink)
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New program for Comp128v2 card

Hello
On site http://www.multisim.com.tw/index_eng.htm is USB 2.0 simreader with reading software Sim Smuth 3.6.7
After is write "Do not restrict V2 card !"

This link is interesting:
http://www.multisim.com.tw/e10.htm


Anybody buy this reader and tested with V2 cards

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Old 02-28-2006, 14:37   #2 (permalink)
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Hope this will work for comp128v2 cards. Interesting. Hope to get 1 set.

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Old 03-01-2006, 06:37   #3 (permalink)
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Hope this will work for comp128v2 cards. Interesting. Hope to get 1 set.
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Don't rush buying as I doubt this product will find the Ki on any comp128v2 card. The hardware of almost all sim-readers is the same (similar), the software (if anything at all) would make the difference.

When you read advertisements like this one (Not restricted to V2) (or sometimes: New V2 Version! ) the "smart" author means usualy that it will work on both, USB 2.0 .... and 1.1 (backward compatible).

Ok, on this site it says "Not restricted to v2 card" ... hmmmmm, what does this person want to advertise: Lets think again: Is there any "simcard contact manager software" restricted to copy the phonebook entries from a v2 card? Got the idea? No statement about "finding the Ki of a V2 card".

Even if I still didn't convice you with my above comments... read little bit further ahead on that site. Multisim 12in1? Here is the link and the compatible networks are listed on that page too. Did you notice the comp128V2 network cards on the bottom of that page? Not supported http://www.multisim.com.tw/e2.htm


That is the way how people sell in our days... by misleading the customer.

It's your right (and money) to Be SUSPICIOUS

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Old 03-01-2006, 08:30   #4 (permalink)
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I tested this program

I tested this program and it's working with my phoenix programmer. SimSmith incuded ... simscan 2.02.
But don't read Ki from my sim activated in 2003 year.
But interesting works with my sim acticated in 2005 year.
It's read IMSI. Other programs ( cardinal, Imsiviewer ) don't read.
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Old 03-01-2006, 11:26   #5 (permalink)
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Comp128V2 are compatible to comp128V1 cards. How else could you use a newer simcard (comp128V2) in an old nokia-phone and make it work? Have you ever read on any phone: "Only for comp128V1 generation cards?"

The APDU commands send by the phone/software to "read/write" the memory inside the simcard are THE SAME.

In your case, most probably the programs you were using (cardinal, IMSIviewer), were not set up correctly (baudrate, smart/phoenix mode, etc.). This is the reason why you wouldn't get any info.

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(The thread topic is VERY WRONG and should be changed into something different,... it is missleading to wrong conclusions like the advertisement on that site.)
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Old 03-02-2006, 10:07   #6 (permalink)
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I tested this program and it's working with my phoenix programmer. SimSmith incuded ... simscan 2.02.
But don't read Ki from my sim activated in 2003 year.
But interesting works with my sim acticated in 2005 year.
It's read IMSI. Other programs ( cardinal, Imsiviewer ) don't read.
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What network is the sim cards from? Maybe the newer one is postpaid and the older one a prepaid? Sometimes postpaids can be cloned even if they are quite recent.
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Old 03-02-2006, 12:50   #7 (permalink)
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Don't rush buying as I doubt this product will find the Ki on any comp128v2 card. The hardware of almost all sim-readers is the same (similar), the software (if anything at all) would make the difference.

When you read advertisements like this one (Not restricted to V2) (or sometimes: New V2 Version! ) the "smart" author means usualy that it will work on both, USB 2.0 .... and 1.1 (backward compatible).

Ok, on this site it says "Not restricted to v2 card" ... hmmmmm, what does this person want to advertise: Lets think again: Is there any "simcard contact manager software" restricted to copy the phonebook entries from a v2 card? Got the idea? No statement about "finding the Ki of a V2 card".

Even if I still didn't convice you with my above comments... read little bit further ahead on that site. Multisim 12in1? Here is the link and the compatible networks are listed on that page too. Did you notice the comp128V2 network cards on the bottom of that page? Not supported http://www.multisim.com.tw/e2.htm


That is the way how people sell in our days... by misleading the customer.

It's your right (and money) to Be SUSPICIOUS

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Yes, I absolutely agree with you sir. Thanks very much to your explanation.

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Old 03-09-2006, 06:28   #8 (permalink)
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hi, i'm new in sim cloning, i would like to ask if we could possible clone the menu of service provider that is install in original sim?
is it clone sim purpose for call and text using different numbers with one sim?
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cloning v2 and v3

Anyone got an hardware from:

http://www.kiscan.net/

Seem to had made a power analisis hardware that work on compv2 and v3 too. Naturally the card must be vulnerable to a power analis attack...

From the page:

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As a result, the special device, Card Reader ESR 12-58 for SIM (Energy Sensitive Reader) has been created.

[...]

- Extends functionality of usual SIM-Reader, allows reading of registration keys of SIM cards of transitional models, which are Comp 1, but the usual readers cannot read them already.
- Allows reading of security codes of SIM: PIN1, PIN2, PUK1, PUK2, using ESR device.
- Contains additional algorithms for processing your IMSI and KI.
- Provides friendly English interface.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:56   #10 (permalink)
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It seems to be interesting...
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Old 03-09-2006, 14:19   #11 (permalink)
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Well using smart scan with they own reader/writer will work for v2 card....but if we used the reader/writer + smart scan can it be done????will it find the ki without spoil the original sim card....
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well i bought a new sim card witch is a v2 card but it cant work with the v1 reader/writer......using the smart scan.......
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Old 03-09-2006, 16:18   #13 (permalink)
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Anyone got an hardware from:

http://www.kiscan.net/

Seem to had made a power analisis hardware that work on compv2 and v3 too. Naturally the card must be vulnerable to a power analis attack...

From the page:

[...]

As a result, the special device, Card Reader ESR 12-58 for SIM (Energy Sensitive Reader) has been created.

[...]

- Extends functionality of usual SIM-Reader, allows reading of registration keys of SIM cards of transitional models, which are Comp 1, but the usual readers cannot read them already.
- Allows reading of security codes of SIM: PIN1, PIN2, PUK1, PUK2, using ESR device.
- Contains additional algorithms for processing your IMSI and KI.
- Provides friendly English interface.
WARNING !!!!!!!!


THIS IS FAKE!!! The device does not work at all and will even send your Ki (from your comp128V1 card) through the Internet.
We have had discussions in the past about this device (as well as some forum members who lost their money ordering this "FAKE" device). You can read more about it here: comp128 v2

Always keep in mind that there are BAD people out there, too.

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Old 03-10-2006, 14:52   #14 (permalink)
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dear erekosee

Yes Mr. Ch@in is 100% right, because i was send the payment for the device call esr 12-58 but the person (Sergy Titov) who are claiming about crack of comp128v2 or 3 and receive the payment now has changed his cellular number and icq number because how he can face the persons from which he has received the payment because such device is not possible especially with him, if he has really such device then why he is not sending to me because he has received the payment, and i have the prove, his mail in which he infrom me that he has receive the payment and he will send the device within 2 or 3 days, it is the mail March, 2005.
Friends, be carefull for business with that and like such person because i have lost my money.

All story you can read at comp128 v2

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Old 03-10-2006, 21:59   #15 (permalink)
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dear erekosee

Yes Mr. Ch@in is 100% right, because i was send the payment for the device call esr 12-58 but the person (Sergy Titov) who are claiming about crack of comp128v2 or 3 and receive the payment now has changed his cellular number and icq number because how he can face the persons from which he has received the payment because such device is not possible especially with him, if he has really such device then why he is not sending to me because he has received the payment, and i have the prove, his mail in which he infrom me that he has receive the payment and he will send the device within 2 or 3 days, it is the mail March, 2005.
Friends, be carefull for business with that and like such person because i have lost my money.

All story you can read at comp128 v2

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